Who Here Believes in Equality?

Ehh, not exactly, it depends what sense of 'equal' you're using, I don't think people close to me are more inherently valuable if that's what you mean. I think that human life should just be given a default value of 'worth'. Of course if I knew more about the people involved I might be able to make a more informed judgement about who is more worthy of saving but I can't assume a child in Africa is 10x less valuable than one near me (it would probably take a lot more than £200 to reliably save the life of a western child).

the whole point of equality is to reduce antagonism and suffering. your fate shouldn't be determined based on what class you were born into.

the lower the inequality, the better outcomes in rates of life expectancy, drug abuse, mental illness, trust, educational scores, homicide rates, imprisonment rates:
youtube.com/watch?v=b2iJ5mQLfj8

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it's almost like humans aren't a fucking logic circuit and have more complexity in their thinking

Nice quints. In such a system you'd probably work a lot, lot less.

What does a post-scarcity society look like to you?


That's a good point


That seems fishy, dude. I can't imagine there's that strong a link between them. And there's a couple things that are misleading in the video. The graph that shows innovation being lower in more unequal countries is measured in innovation per capita. Who looks at innovation on a per capita basis though? And they also say that everyone with less money that the richest person in the world feels the health effects of inequality but I don't look at Bill Gates or any of those rich people as the depiction of health

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No, but that's not the issue.


Yes. For instance, everyone should have a chance to be a doctor, and to get there they must do the necessary work. The work they all do should be the same, and once they've completed it they should be allowed to be doctors.

RE treatment - treat people like people.

Go look at some severely autistic and deformed people and you tell me again that they have "worth".

what the fuck juche poster are you drunk? i thought you wanted to ban booze

I do want to ban booze, but euthanasia is the most humane solution for some of these people. To be born in such a state is not a life worthy of living and it puts an undue burden on both the family and society. If I, for example, got in a severe accident that left me brain-dead or completely deformed, unable of living any semblance of a normal life, I hope and pray that my family would show me the mercy of killing me. The same goes for members of my family. If that happened to them I would pull the plug for their own good.

Look at the video below and tell me why people like this should be kept around. To humanely eliminate them or prematurely abort them if possible is the best option. Recently Iceland has made laudable moves in nearly completely eliminating down-syndrome through the use of abortions.

youtube.com/watch?v=j4PTf7LgsIE