How do we stop stuff like this from happening in the future.
It simply is embarrassing to look at the ignorant infighting, while we preach equality.
We must unite and not fight.
Please discuss.
Infighting
Julian White
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Cameron Price
no thanks dengism
James Anderson
the first two are not in fighting. The USSR just stopped being Socialist long before it officially stopped being socialist.
I'm not familiar with the last one but its africa and they're always fucked up
Joseph Barnes
David Russell
The USSR became a revisionist state after Stalin.
DeStalinization was the beginnings of capitalism in Russia
Grayson Phillips
the rise of the beuracratic caste started under Lenin
Kevin Foster
Sure but that doesn't make it capitalist.
opening the USSR to foreign markets and private exchange does.
Brandon Diaz
"Unable to succeed at home, Koch found work in the Soviet Union".[13] Between 1929 and 1932 Winkler-Koch "trained Bolshevik engineers[14] and helped Stalin's regime set up fifteen modern oil refineries"
But yeah Stalin was so opposed to liberalization of the economy.
Mason Jones
can you explain the problem there?
Lincoln Turner
to be fair the conflict between Ethiopia and Somalia wasn't really socialist infighting. by that point, Siad Barre had pretty much abandoned communism.
as for stuff like the Sino-Soviet split, it can be avoided by addressing problems like dogmatism, chauvinism, etc. just don't be like Mao and call people hitlerite fascists. it's that simple.
beyond the facade of some sort of ideological disagreement the split was purely a petty squabble between two superpowers. a lot of things Mao criticised Cornman and Browboy for he himself had already done/ended up doing (such as holding the position that Stalin made many mistakes). the whole "anti-revisionism" thing was mostly a political justification, because behind closed doors Mao purely disliked that the Soviets didn't treat China like an equal and thought he'd be sold out to the west. China wasn't exactly the USSRs best friend from the get-go, Khrushchev was just the nail in the coffin.
it really wasn't, it was nothing more than Khrushchev solidifying his power. the Secret Speech was never really referred to after it was first bought up in the 50s anyway, since prior to Perestroika, the CPSU instead pointed to another, more punctual document regarding Stalin.
destalinisation was very shitty at times and could have been handled much better (and don't get me wrong, Khrushchev wasn't exactly the brightest card carrying member of the CPSU), but it was not the "beginnings of capitalism". Stalin isn't some inseparable figure from socialism, he is allowed to be criticised like everyone else. simply stating that "while he was a great revolutionary and important figure in the establishment of the USSR, he made some mistakes" (which is basically the stance the USSR held up until Gorbachev) doesn't mean the Soviets were any less socialist than they were under Papa Joe. i swear some of you haven't even read the Secret Speech, since you all seem to believe it was some Gorbachev-tier "durr stalin wasn't a socialist he was a big meanie dumb dumb" smearing of Soviet history.
both of these things occurred in the 80s under Gorbachev. they were not a part of destalinisation.