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Probably either Mr. House or the NCR because they have the most advanced technology and means of production of all the factions in fonv and would therfore be the best place to set up socialism. (it hurts so much even writing this because the NCR is basicly america and Mr. House is basicly Elon "the friendly billionaire who is gonna save us all" musk)

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Basically modern US imperialist faction that might but probably won't get better, at best will recreate something akin to the current IRL shitshow
He'd either turn shit to a megacorp dystopia or be an utter control freak that would pose as a god, treating humans as his snow globe collection. I guess at best he might be dengist but not likely and still not great, even if this ending leads to more technological advancement.
Honestly I'd say this is the best choice. Vegas becomes an independent new power formed from the coalition of many united factions, and while unstable, it does hold a chance to become similarly technologically powerful as in House ending. Also Followers of the Apocalypse stick around and they are kinda anarchistic in principal
Literally just a fanatic, unjustifiable horde of zealous anprims that would crumble instantly after Caesars death.

Caesar knew that the only way to move forward and pushing the dialectic is being the bad guy.

Similar to how Satan despite being evil in the Bible is what caused mankind to have knowledge of good and evil.

The first two Fallouts talked about how society was moving forward. New Vegas continued this by how the Hoover Dam was needed for power and water.

In order to keep Capitalism going the NCR had to become Imperialistic.

Yeah the Legion is like the USSR as understood by liberals. Reading Jason's book on the Fallout games makes me think he'd consider Yes Man to be the most progressive faction.

Mr. House represents the national bourgeoisie.

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All of the NCR's infrastructure is back west though, they make that explicit. All you're seeing is their war machine on the march, and IIRC it's pretty much the same with Caesar's Legion (I believe they are also encroaching on New Vegas from elsewhere?). The whole point is that New Vegas itself is an oddity of the old world preserved by House, a jewel in a wasteland of primitives, House wasn't interested in expanding across Nevada so he didn't, just built his shining city on the hill.

The Legion is reactionary, the NCR is imperialist. Only the Brotherhood could be the most Zig Forums.

your brain on trotskyism

The Legion is a realistic choice. In case of technologic breakdown, it would be pointless to try and organize society as anything else then monarchy based on forced labour and warrior-aristocratic ruling class.

That is to say, Brotherhood of Steel, the Enclave AND Legion.

Of the East or West Coast variety?

The west coast one is kill though.

Even the East Coast kind degraded into totalitarianism

I think the minutemen confederation, being a civilization based on largely self-managing cities with no clear hierarchies, who are only bound together by a group of amateur militiamen whose hierarchy and method of organization is ambigous at best for mutual defense, may ironically be the most Zig Forums faction in spite of the burger fetishism.

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Brotherhood of steel.

They're the only one that entirely resides in bunkers.

Elder Maxson is Hoxhaist.

Minutemen are Bookchin gang.

tfw the brotherhood are literal hoxhaists

Pick one.

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new vegas is just a small gamblers city, just let house run it and be on your way.

followers i guess
maybe the powder gang in the vault

Yeah, the point of Vegas is that it's a diamond in the rough. The desert is especially wasteland-ish and the riches present in vegas (in terms of technology) enabled it to turn into a thriving city. Kind of mirrors IRL vegas that way.

Powder gangers are pretty based. They're prison laborers who took over the prison.

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Lol no. There's some dialogue from House and Caesar in the game where they highlight the utter absurdity of their bullshit LARP faction and you can tell the writers were speaking through the characters' mouths in those scenes. The brotherhood are utter retards with no endgame.

The most Zig Forums faction in the game is obviously the NCR, any other answer is sheer absurdity. Whine about imperialism all you want but when the only choices are between them and petty tribalism the answer is clear.

Enclave > BOS
Legion > NCR
House > Legion
Yes Man = egoist / House = technocrat
House / Yes Man > Legion > NCR
New Vegas anti-imperialism is the only way.

You do realize that this is quite literally the opposite of how Ceaser is characterized, right? The only interaction he has post-reformation with tribal peoples is conquest and assimilation into his war machine. How do you get anprim from a guy whose entire nation is built out of killing and enslaving primitive people?

I pick not rolling legion all day every day.

can it even be considered canon?

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There are vault powder gangers too, they're a breakaway group.
fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault_19
fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Samuel_Cooke
Powder Gangers more like PPWer Gangers

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I liked fallout 4.
The "main story" was kind of bad, but at least they returned to a struggle of "ideas" inherent to the world rather than the simple "bad guy versus good guy" in FO3.
Fallout 4 is all about rebuilding the world after the catastophy. It's literally in the mechanics and I admire the ludonarrative that comes with the building/crafting/settler narratives. It poses the questions of whether humanity can rebuild for itself and take destiny into it's own hands (minutemen path), ought rather be lead by a group of enlightened technocrats (institute) or perhaps ought never truly rebuildt at all (BoS).

So yes, FO4 was not like the originals, but I still hold that it was an excellent game with a lot of humanity to it, and a surprisingly uplifting change away from games simply about wallowing in the post-apocalypse - in this game, the enemy is the apocalypse itself.

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Macron is the real world counterpart of The Institute.

Tbh I would like them to make a game focused mainly around building a settlement, which would also involve attacking other settlements and forming your own faction.

The greatest thing about the city-building system in FO4 is that expansion is made primarily through diplomacy and no through direct hostile takeovers.

Meanwhile, investing in the cities and creating confederations makes the game considerably easier; that sends a powerful message to the players through the mechanics; that we're stronger together and the rational thing to do in a doomsday scenario is for the individual to band together with others and forge alliances and try to build your own rather than simply stealing from others.

In a lot of ways, FO4 is a really beautiful game.

the Followers, duh. The Minutemen in FO4 are also pretty based.
the NCR is overly corrupt, and is quickly becoming a mirrior of the pre-war american government, since they're practically controlled by the West coast's equivalent of the national bourgoisie (i.e. the large caravan traders, like CC). They are also steetching way too thin, and simply won't be able to keep up this expansion rate.
Legion is utter garbage, and I don't think this really needs any explaination.
Mr House does have some redeeming qualities, his plans for new vegas can very easily turn the whole city into an authotarian shithole.
With Yes Man you do the exact same shit as with House, except House actually has future plans for NV which he doesn't ever tell you, or anybody else for that matter. Yes Man obviously doesn't have such plans, and with an independent NV, the main character would probably just become a generic dictator, and keep the status quo until their death. After which New vegas would probably just collapse back into warring tribes again.
The Brotherhood is reactionary as fuck and they have an incredibly idiotic stance on pre-war tech.

shit tier bait niggger

Fallout NV is the only fallout 3 worth playing.

Zig Forums is West Side and/or Followers and/or (unironically) Minutemen

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As much as I enjoyed fallout 4 it's such a shame that the only finished and fleshed out story route Is the brotherhood of steel
All the other factions are just the institute which is just "Hur dur you need to have a high Autism Level to understand our intentions"

the only good option is the followers of the apocalypse anything else isnt even communist in the cannon except kinda BoS

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It's not even like her name was spelled different than normal.

Most leftypol route is either Mr. House, Legion or NCR. Yes Man is the lolbert stupid route.

Fallout 4 was dogshit from a game mechanics perspective though. The settlement building thing was a complete mess. I can understand people wanting to be able to micromanage everything, but the game forces you to do that. You can't delegate someone else to manage. You can't delegate someone else to build buildings. You can't delegate someone else to craft stuff. You can't just be the person who goes out adventuring to bring back resources. You have to be an autocrat. And you can't just be the one running the settlements, because eventually you have to go out and scavenge some more. The whole point of RPGs like the fallout series is to have different ways to approach things, but Fallout 4 tries to force you to play it one way.

Half of their territory is desert

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Download SimSettlements.
FO4 is fucking great with mods.

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where is the sierra madre?

Anyone got any socialist themed mods for NV?

Speaking of which, anyone remember the YouTuber ScottishSocialist1?

He was making one called "The Mojave Soviet" but as he deleted his channel (Except his gaming channel) it looks like it's dead, which is a shame really as I liked what I saw of it.

Jesus, no!

I always believed it to be in the Arizona mountains.

what fallout 2 faction would be the best option ?

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I mean the brotherhood in theory is alright but they always intervene even though they say they won't.

NCR is kinda liberals but they do have food handed out as a basic human necessity so they're socialist, still too interventionist.

Enclave is fucking cancer but hey at least they've killed just an absolute shit ton of boomers

nigga the brotherhood are the least relevant faction in fallout 2 and they pretty much just exist in 2 to give you a reason to navarro

ik i'm just saying i agree with them the most in canon