Psychoanalysis and Marxism

Anybody can fart out conjecture and substantiate their claims ex post facto.

How do you test such theory? It is not science.

History is allot more complex than simple “class struggle” you simpleton.

How do you test anything about consciousness? Psychoanalysis is about understanding the subjective aspects of human existence, obviously this is more difficult since it's less material. Which is the point of the book, how Marxism and psychoanalysis are complementary

You cannot achieve understanding with subjective experience. Call it what it is - conjecture.

Wow it's almost like the point of the book I uploaded was how psychoanalysis can help us understand the subjective experiences of people to understand why they are or are not class conscious, but this doesn't replace marxism as a tool for understanding objective situations? Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing

Psychoanalysis is a bullshit pseudoscience and a sign of the decline of bourgeois thought. I can really recommend Valentin Voloshinov's critique of Freudianism which builds on his Marxism and the Philosophy of Language. The guy was a bloody genius and prefigured (post-)structuralism 50 years ahead while already presenting a Marxist critique. Both his books are on libgen.

On Freud specifically:

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I thought Marxists were against owning people like this.

freud was a socdem, mind you

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This is a pretty gross strawman of Freud.

For one thing, Freud compares his work to that of history in "A General Introduction to Psychoanalysis". How do you explain people like the Frankfurt school, Herbert Marcuse, and Slavoj Zizek, among others, using psychoanalytic concepts to explain phenomena?

Even if it isn't a science, does this invalidate it? What about linguistics, or Leninism? Surely something can fail to reach the heights of scientific legitimacy and still be useful, no? Georg Lukacs and Erich Fromm were not scientists, but they have made important contributions as well. And the contribution of psychoanalysis, if the ideology can be sifted through, is to attempt to understand the formation of desires, choices, and all of the subjective elements of human life. This element is pretty important in bourgeois society, considering the commodity contains the contradiction between use-value and exchange-value (and Marx called this the foundation of capitalism in critique of political economy). In other words, one half of most exchanges is largely subjective, not totally rational.

From Volosinov's book:
This is the same claim that Osborn is making, although he uses psychoanalytic concepts as the foundation for his Marxist study of the psyche. It seems like the Soviet reaction against "bourgeois" psychoanalysis was a reaction against its misapplication in Europe at the time, which is fair. This is also why I made the thread. You say psychoanalysis is pseudoscientific bullshit but your source is literally Lacan:
Replace sign with lettre and this could have been written by Lacan. *sniff*

The point of the thread wasn't to defend Freud but to talk about the relationship between psychoanalysis and Marxism. Not going to disagree that Freud's writing was flawed in multiple ways, but that doesn't mean it is all useless.