Race & ethnicities : left wing edition

We now all know races exist - well, hard to deny, except if you believe in some of Lewontin's fallacy, but we are too clever for this.

Some exemples of nice articles :

Moreover, we all know, too, that there is physical and psychological average differences between races.


So here is my question : I am a left leaning - really really left leaning if you know what I mean - anarchist.
It seems that in the left, there is kind of a problem with these new discoveries in science. I don't. It seems hard to deny it, really, it's like more and more evidence add-up everytime.

=> So here is my question, fellow anarchist - and even communists, yes - what should be our stance on it ?

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It's fucking irrelevant.

What does it matter if one race is more X or Y than another, everyone should have the chance to prove themselves regardless.

Wy are races relevant to politics unless you intend to rely on eugenics (as in superior/inferior races) to further you goals?


This is unrelated to this topic.

Arguments linking race and Autism Level are largely ignorant of context, both historical and geographical. Not to mention it wades into eugenics territory and the belief that certain groups of people are inferior.
Dividing people by race is a spook and weakens unity and solidarity. If you're really a leftist, this would be something you'd understand to be dangerous to leftist causes.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that the claims typically made by white nationalists about genetically inherited intelligence in relation to different racial groups are true, or even just partially true, and that this is relevant.
Would this significantly change how we should organize, justifying state-enforced racial hierarchy, and even possibly segregation or ethnic cleansing?

In my view, no. Perhaps this would be a different conversation if we were still living in the 1800s, but we are right now on the verge of breakthroughs in genetic engineering.
It may soon be possible for us to edit genes in children before they are born using new technology known as CRISPR.
If scientific research could specify genetic patterns linked to intelligence or potential intelligence, you could target those genes for editing in new children.

Since the claim made by the white nationalists from what I've observed tends to be that there is only a tendency for members of different racial groups to diverge in intelligence on a genetic basis, the solution need not be entirely race-based. Using this technology, you could improve not only the general intelligence of black & brown groups which tend to be the main subject of scrutiny by white nationalists, but whites, Asians, and so on.

The issue here arises in equal distribution of the new technology. It will likely be reserved for the ruling class. I would like to point out to white nationalists that if they are concerned with the general level of intelligence among all humans, that the best way to raise the general level of intelligence is not to attempt to deport non-whites or segregate the races.

In fact the way to raise the level of intelligence among humans is to stand in solidarity with non-whites, and advocate equal distribution of new technologies such as genetic engineering. I don't think that the type of capitalist system most of humanity lives under is capable of coping with the rapid technological advances we are experiencing today.

In fact, I think that enforcing economic hierarchy will be harmful to all of humanity, including white people. If future technologies such as radical life extension and genetic engineering are a privilege reserved for the very-wealthy and powerful, all of humanity will suffer as the ruling-class entrenches its power. And that even includes most the petit-bourg white anons on /biz/, I'd bet.

On the other hand, if we as an interlinked set of societies decide to move past the capitalist order and abolish it, we will have in our hands the opportunity to raise the average intelligence level for billions of future humans.
To me, this sounds highly preferable to prolonged racial infighting between different types of humans.
But when presented with this argument, what will white nationalists respond with? Their response may prove whether their interest concerning these arguments really is a concern for humanity's future, or if it's just an excuse for ideology. I suspect a mix of responses from them.

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Well, that's kind of my point of view. It is simply a great tool for science and social science - even if there is still a rejection of these data for now.

However, it seems that a lot of left leaning people seem to be absolutely hostile to its existance.

Like a taboo, which is weird. I don't get it. I can't even talk to most of my fellow anarchist militant friends about this lol.

Beeing equal and deserving a fair part of the modern life =/=beeing biologically the same.

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There is nothing inherently reactionary to eugenics as a long-term goal, rather than the advocating of extermination of inferior races/cultures (imperialism, either soft or hard), but you have to clarify to what end exactly. You can consider a preliminary of this phenomenon with the current trend of globalisation of culture/habits, albeit on a capitalist setting.


I agree that in the context of scientific breakthrough in this subject, existing race of biological species will end up being irrelevant anyway.

But this is a long-term issue, in the short-term (as in world revolution and the establishment of communism) this is largely insignificant, there is not race "incompatible" with communism that should be worked against.

What is source of data on DPRK and warn torn Afrikan nations in your post exactly? I am having difficulty parsing it on my own.


Qu'est-ce que tu essayes de dire? What constructive purpose does eugenics serve if you are not aiming for so called 'scientific racism' or segregation?