it's because the soviet union collapsed and stopped gibbing free money funds and training to revolutionary leftist organizations
Michael Brooks
I'll bite. By doing what exactly? Shooting crowds and bombing buildings? You know that's exactly how we got into this extremely fractured situation right?
Jaxon Wilson
this time it will work believe me t. glowing entity
Easton Bailey
Sage
Dominic Gomez
you're all trannies
YOU'RE LITERALLY ALL TRANNIES
Easton Bell
Propaganda of the deed has mostly proven counter-productive.
Jackson Brown
take your meds
Josiah Turner
Uhm sweaty, marxist college professors are the rulling class of America.
Ryan Martin
I always also love this claim that we're this cabal of "degenerate pedo-tranny-faggots" when the majority of this entire site, with all of its fucked up, degenerate, interracial, cuckold, faggot boards are majority far-right. Literally go to any fetish board on Zig Forums and bait post for politics, 9/10 times you'll get far-right nationalists and MAGAfags, not leftists.
DId Lenin and company need gibs to start their revolution?
Hudson Foster
and what did that get you?
Alexander Wilson
Lenin accepted help from german intelligency (which saw the bolsheviks as a lesser evil in the revolution), i don't know how decisive the support was towards their success.
Zachary Collins
at least key a rich person's car some night, you lazy lumpkin prole.
Lincoln Adams
When you said do "something", I assumed more than the equivalent of a "fuck you dad" statement.
Ryder Miller
Yes. They needed both gibs and they were robbing private and state institutions left and right for funding. Trotsky also secured a million dollars from Chase bank (who also funded Bolshevik enemies, but they wanted a foothold in Russia regardless of who won).
Zachary Wilson
I graffiti'd a police car once, sadly it didn't secure world revolution.
Benjamin Powell
DId Trotsky get his support by making a clever argument in his college paper or by whooping some ass?
Bentley Phillips
Him and the Bolsheviks wouldn't have had any followers to carry out any plans without rhetoric; they couldn't have taken over Russia to begin with without a convincing message to put to the Russian people. Of course action is important but without some level of class consciousness it's meaningless.
Ryder Phillips
you guys are retarded, the only way to kill capitalism is striking right at its heart, you know WHAT i'm talking about and if you don't you are dicktards and i won't explain what i'm talking about
Nathan Cruz
WW1 literally fucked everything. read society of the spectacle and this is not a program. otherwise it's like this thread is begging for left cringe photos.
Cooper Kelly
The current capitalist government of your respective country? Good luck holding it without any form of popular support.
Blake Myers
Yes, we know what you're talking about, Zig Forums, because it's all you ever talk about.
i was just making a schizo post and now that i look back it does look like a jewish conspiracy reference lol
Juan Perry
If we killed all the bourg, their kids and cousins and the people directly under them would just take over, I mean let's say capitol hill was wiped out by a orbital strike killing all senators, congressmen, and the president, would the US government cease to exist? No, almost certainly not, the powers that be would arrange snap elections (if there even were elections) to install their new handpicked representatives. In fact it would probably be used an an opportunity to install even more reactionary representatives.
Chase Jones
I achieved class consciousness by having porky's boot on my neck..but I guess you had to go college to get yours, you petite bourgeoisie.
Isaiah Cook
i achieved it by watching some youtube videos so idk mane
Julian Perry
I mean tbh, we would most likely end up in a Libya situation where there are multiple governments claiming to be the legitimate one with the UN and other world governments also intervening in order to "stabilize" the situation, with different countries backing different internal governments using extremely flimsy justifications ("This government has the most legitimate candidates", "this one has the next in succession for president", "this one is the most democratic", etc.)
I went to trade school, and even I know what he's saying is true. If you don't work to have popular support, you're actions aren't really going to go far.
Adam Morgan
so how many facebook followers will you need before you take revolutionary action?
Jackson Hall
popular support can also mean real people on the streets
Elijah Bailey
Hey faggot, why don't you say what you wanna say instead of making nothing but useless snarky comments?
Elijah Garcia
If you killed all the boozhees, you’d be shooting yourself in the foot. They’re like 90% of your adherents.
Gabriel Barnes
not true
Jaxon Watson
That could happen in a more unstable country maybe but the Democratic and Republican state party apparatuses would make sure to restore order with them in charge, whoever was highest up remaining on the totem poles of those parties would just take over, the US military is orderly and professional (as opposed to tribal) enough that they would try to restore the old regime. Overall nothing would change.
Oh do put a sock in it. Who pissed in your cornflakes tonight? You don't know a thing about me.
Samefag. Are you a Zig Forums refugee or just retarded in general?
Isaiah Adams
I’m just an actual working class guy making an observation based on decades of observation.
Liam Young
Of what, my posts? Dumb shit.
Joseph White
so most CEOs are communists?
Colton Barnes
Pathological
Yeah, and I went to trade school to become a mechanic and am in my local fire-department. Its bullshit, communists for you are literally a caricature of everything bad from everyone ever.
Hudson Moore
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Congrats.
Robert Ross
I am trying to get you mad so you will actually get out there and do something.
James Davis
Are you FBI?
Cooper Sullivan
then destabilize the nation.. there's a thousand threads to pull…race, religion,, etc.
Do you want the system to go on forever?
Brody Green
Why the fuck would we do that? It won't change anything no matter what we do. Don't you see the state the world is in? The human race doesn't want saving, we certainly can't do shit to change that. If we mobilised a million people to go on the streets tomorrow, it still wouldn't change anything, the media wouldn't even mention it.
i can recognize the suspension dots in every single post you make, we are not going to kill the niggers, the jews or the muslims, it doesn't matter how many times you tell us it's the only way
Christian Martinez
Don't worry, it'll only go on until the climate collapses or resource shortages start nuclear war : )
Nathan Powell
but then there will be nothing to save,, nothing to redistribute to the masses,, only famine.
you're right….. I'm going to get drunk, watch porn and wait to die.
Henry Bennett
and don't forget to do the weed, three weeds a day keep life away
Samuel Scott
I'll drink to that! Bring on the fucking end of this shit. Death is better than late capitalism.
Asher Powell
The modern left is seen as social democrats who are pushing neo liberal policies. I'd say a good 80-85% currently who would say he or she holds leftwing beliefs, holds neoliberal beliefs. When push comes to shove leftist parties in western governments try to appease everyone and turn into neo liberals as it's an easy populist way to win elections. Even though their extremely short sighted and stupid policies in the long term will enable actual fascism and revolutionary thought to rise again.
Leo Gutierrez
Stop using this fucking word to describe modern liberals. They're not the same as neoliberals. Just saying.
Aaron Parker
They are, it’s just that the current left is mainly a social democratic movement, but I don’t see this as a reason to be discouraged. The worker’s movement is finally re emerging after decades of total atrophy, of course it isn’t going to spit out a fully formed revolutionary movement. Chartists, Luddites, and Utopians preceded the revolutionary worker’s movement and Marxism. It’s pretty obvious that even shit like Bernie, AOC, the Green New Deal, etc is making American porkies shit their pants, which is why they screech about Venezuela and the evils of socialism 24/7. They know that this milquetoast shit always precedes more radical movements.
Jordan Cruz
Marxist-Leninist economic theory is a utter failure and this is why we need to discuss theory and books and not create another socialist dystopia that is doomed to collapse or/and be invaded by imperialist powers.
Aiden Hill
Then we kill them too
Jaxon Long
pot calling the kettle black much?
Owen Phillips
As compared to what? Market socialism that basically is a discount Succ-dem that sells itself out to capitalism? Or maybe anarchist shit that gets dismantled by porky in few years if not a few months?
And if planned economies, benevolent dictatorships, perfectionistic societies, and other utopian ventures have failed, we must remember that unplanned, undictated, and unperfected cultures have failed too. A failure is not always a mistake; it may simply be the best one can do under the circumstances. The real mistake is to stop trying. Perhaps we cannot now design a successful culture as a whole, but we can design better practices in a piecemeal fashion. - B.F. Skinner
Cuba is M-L, the DPRK is largely M-L even if some changes have been made, the USSR was M-L and despite some issues was highly successful, so stop talking out of your ass.
Carter Wright
Cuba has widely diverged from M-L ideology, specifically the fallacious two-stage theory of revolution.
DPRK is a dynastic feudal state and not remotely Marxist; what's needed is the assassination of the Kims.
This is a Zig Forums LARP thread 100%, similar to those guys who post defeatism shit about how they're scared of the right
Evan Watson
Cheers for this lad, I was trying to remember this term the other day and it was escaping me. There are other terms for this phenomenon but this one is the most accessible.
Cooper Hall
You are a suburban petit-bourg descended faggot who thinks that class is an identity which involves being white and doing blue collar work.
Bentley Ramirez
the Prussian empire literally funded them to take Russia out of WWI so yes
Aiden Harris
It's because the left is porky.
Hudson Jones
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Christian Martinez
They're afraid to get crazy. Have you ever seen those videos of right-wing militant groups in America that are just ready to kill non-whites at any moment? These minutemen are all over the country and leftists are afraid of projecting their power and showing up to protests armed, or at least doing protests more frequently and more violently.
People are just so afraid to rise up. We need to be reminded of the goddamn stakes, people. Right now the world's biggest threat isn't Jihad, Islam, China, Iran, global warming, etc… it's the rise of fascism and nationalism, whether it be white or not.
what's the deal with this bee? does it reference something or is it just the fruit of a strange mind?
Samuel Scott
This shit again
James Price
Telling people not to do anything gives away that you're the real FBI shill.
Luke Watson
Lmao this thread really was a Zig Forums LARP by some retards who are panicking that Nazis are going maximum autism and blowing their load alienating people who they believe secretly subscribe to their "Racial Consciousness" and the cognitive dissonance is too much for them to handle, so they come here and pathetically try to goad the commies into terrorism epic style. Imagine being this much of an idealist loser.
Ayden Young
Compared to Zig Forums and their mass mobilization, this thread is tame as fuck
Adrian Cruz
I remember seeing an account on reddit, it has a weird way of typing and comes off as "juvenile". However, the weirder part is that all their posts has very similar replies, usually comes in 3 (in their posts' replies): One who agrees, disagrees, and a mixture of both. There's nothing wrong with it, however I keep seeing the same similar replies (just different contents) to their posts that I'm thinking they're trying to achieve an agenda here. Could it be they're trying to throw someone off? Perhaps prevent someone from getting the correct answer and just presenting a kinda correct but still from being correct answer?
Now, how is this related to the anons I'm replying? This replies reminds of that, the OP doesn't make sense and doesn't seem compelling enough to reply, yet here we have these replies. How these comes off is that it shows an illusion that shows traffic and making this thread look reply-worthy when it's not.
Sounds manipulative? It definitely is. Anons, you oughta watch out for manipulative tactics like these that is used to distract people and discourage other people from correcting.
Brandon Morris
Schizo.
Gabriel Taylor
Well yeah but an individual Zig Forumsyp is always almost sub-70 Rick & Morty Quotient so what do you expect? Not like a couple of them increases the brainpower much