Proper response to dogwhistling

How should one conduct oneself when hearing alt right dogwhistles? Should you at all?

If you call them out, you look insane.

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I don't see why we should care about Zig Forums's secret handshakes. Its just another part of their compulsive desire for affirmation by their peers through feeling part of some super sekrit club and being in the know unlike the dumb normie sheeple.

Fascists are cowards, resorting to aesopian language, afraid to state their claims openly unless certain they're talking to someone on their team, otherwise they advance cautiously, probing for resistance. The method invites being called out so don't do it, instead notice the trap and go around it, preempt their tried and tested lines, undermine their line of attack, strike at their weakpoints.
Their use of dogwhistles makes them feel cool, part of the in-group and powerful, undermine that and make them feel pathetic, out of their depth and a laughing stock. Fascist ideology inflates their self-esteem, pop that and they will distance themselves from it as just another thing that gets them wedgied.

What does writing "Subscribe to PewDiePie" even accomplish? Internet reactionaries are the biggest faggots

They help them find each other. But they also help us find them. Because chan culture has been a part of my life for 15 years or so now I'm comfortable on these boards. Even if I don't hang out on Zig Forums I pick their shit up. I often spot them using it on social media. I know well enough that not every weeb is an anime nazi. I can spot the ones that are. Then I can go further and investigate them. Sometimes build a profile, dox…

This. Just knowing their language is a big help, and also collecting evidence. Screenshots like OP’s are invaluable, because they demonstrate the deliberate use of dog whistles by fascists.

Sjws are worse

They believe that the occasional reference to Zig Forums memes will turn the zoomers over towards the right. Ignoring that Pewds also follows "SJW" content, or at least did.

Just point out that Pewdiepie is more or less a Josh.0 knock off.

This. It's easy to identify them the more dog whistles they use even if you ignore the obvious rhetoric they use.

t. reactionary

They are both bad and reactionary in their own ways, now let's not try to make this a discussion on "which anti-communist idpozzed group is the worse", they both get the wall.

If you are reposting that image or others like it you may be getting played. Just saying.

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I had the idea for something like an E1 podcast skit. It's a gameshow where the biggest fan gets to hang out with the celebrity guest host for the day. For pewdiepie the contestants are a 14 year old girl, an Indian guy trying to adopt western culture, and Andrew Anglin. What do you guys think? Does it have legs or what?

if you are serious yes do it, if it's a joke then bad joke

Here’s an idea, leftist politions should use right-wing dog whistles to get right-wingers to elect them, than do a bunch of leftist shit once elected.

what a terrible suggestion

why don't we have dog-whistles ourselves? like one of us appears on a tv interview and they keep saying "icwheiaseizethemeansofproductioneriums" and people think we had a stroke but it was a dog whistle all along!

We should use their dog whistles to make fun of them, not to get elected on their behalf. That's idiotic.

That would be such an epic topkek. 👌👌👌👌

Reactionary spotted.

derailment of subject to muh sjw's is also a good alt right tactic.

Reactionaries are our enemies and no where did I say otherwise. I'm just clarifying to make the point that SJW/idpol types don't suddenly become allies or some kind of "better evil" because reactionaries exist. If we start discussing who and who isn't worse, this whole thread is going to devolve and spiral into derailment. There are communists, and there are not communists. End of story.

The left needs to get its house in order, theoretically speaking. This braindead obsession with SJWs/idpol is just yet another sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of mainstream contemporary politics.

for the most part the classical SJW types are dying off in university settings, I literally know trans and black kids who share Zig Forums's views on idpol.

SJW is just a gateway to leftism for many proletarians. The vampire's castle is mostly made up of petite bourgeoisie SJWs who were never going to actually join the left in the first place. Any SJW that has to suffer under capitalism eventually draws the connection between hierarchy and capital.

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It seems to me that more, and more men are going to want to get out of Vampire's Castle once you realize that all the crazy bitches in it demand complete and total subservience.
It's why I got out of idpol, the standards were just too much and you get nothing out of kissing their asses.

agreed this some gay shit

Rephrasing: proletarian SJWs almost always awaken to class consciousness, because eventually you come to realize that all the problems SJWs highlight stem from capitalism.

This.
SJWs are quickly becoming a thing of the past. No sense getting too upset over them now, it'll only alienate you from other socialists.

As well as SJWism itself. It's basically liberal porky's distortion of radical politics. That's why right-wingers are so utterly incapable of analyzing them. "Cultural Marxism" is Frankfurt School minus Marxism.

Most "SJWs" who aren't just petite-bourgeois virtue signalers have already just become socialist at this point. I literally know muslim and gay kids who are sick as fuck of random liberals trying to tell them about their own identities and would much rather focus on a more universalist or class based form of politics.

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Their a gateway to the far-right and ethno-natioanlism. Not for the individual Woketard, but for those around them.

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The more they hide behind the "it's all a troll bro" shit the more damning it is. Most of the people like that aren't in actual fascist groups or smart enough to organize in a meaningful way. It's still a good idea to keep tabs on them anyway. The people who are the most dangerous speak their ideas in clear and concise language. They know using slurs is an easy way to get shut down quick on social media and also the irony bro anime shit doesn't give them the legitimacy they desperately crave. You won't get banned for saying "muh six gorrilian" or something like that but you'll look like a fuckwit. People like that are more likely to do a lone wolf attack or something than organize a successful group.

all "antifa social media" is literally right wing false flaggers. search antifa on twitter and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Not all is. A lot of it is though. They're not going to get verification check marks on Twitter or some shit so it helps to check who the people you are following follow. The fake ones mostly specialize in SJW satire so it's glaringly obvious when you come across one unless you're the type of right winger those pages are made for.

twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/following

A good place to start

Why do faggots even save these? Everyone knows it's just some tryhard LARPing faggot.

when the revolution comes Jack is the first to get the rope

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maybe not have a mood disorder where you think every little thing is a delusional idea of reference

imageboards have rotted your mind

Nah I think he's right. People that want to endlessly scold us, police the language we use, and enforce hierarchies based on idpol are way worse than people that want to outright murder us. Better dead than blue hair.

Of course you think that, your mind has been rotted.

In case nobody is aware I'm being sarcastic here. SJWs do suck but they are not worse than right wingers. Not even by a long shot. If you say things like that I assume you're the kind of person who hangs out on kiwifarms talking about "insane sjw trannies" and shit like that to an audience of reactionaries. If you're like that you're one step removed from a collaborator as far as I'm concerned. These people may be misguided fools but they're far more likely to attain class consciousness than any right winger is.

both of them want that

I'm well aware of this. But one group's idea of that means you and me being dead.

Dude when fags like you REEEE REEEE REEEE about profits being the unpaid wages of the working class. You face ZERO socail repercussions, it isn’t a dangerous thing to say or be. naming the jew or suggesting trans people are mentally ill can get you fired and socialLy isolated. It’s easy to criticize people as cowards when you’ve never had to risk anything for your ideas. While I will admit some of the more hard-core lefties could be considered counter culture. Most of you are straight up common culture, well educated political science nerds. (not working class) who are ironically playing into the hands of the wealthy. Who use the incredibly conservative socail controls the SJWs & Champagne socialist crowd put in the place to control narratives. They will come for you when they deem you a threat. Meanwhile the working class which you idolize yet don’t associate with. Are actually living in ghettos and be surrounded by blacks on a daily basis and being fucked with by the media and edgy 20 yearolds.

There are a few things funnier to me then the than Ivy League educated middle-class white journalist talking about how terrible white people are. I don’t doubt the sincerity of some of you but it’s certainly a fad for most of you. Meanwhile because our ideas aren’t supported and are dangerous people can only come to them through sincerely held beliefs. It’s not cool to be us you’re not gonna get social brownie points for a pat on the back from the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧establishment🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Do you understand the point of a dog whistle is to troll. If there’s one thing leftys have a problem with its being funny. You’re not very good at it. You’ll debunk a joke like the soy boy meme and break it down in a 25 minute unfunny video. then pat yourself on the back, at how stupid we are. Not understanding that its a joke, and the punchline is when you do exactly what we expected. Part of this joke is taking something innocuous and turning it racist like the OK symbol, drinking milk the phrase “learn to code” and now “subscribe to PewDiePie.” PewDiePie has 80 million fans he’s a gorgeous man who isn’t racist. But the joke is, you sort of think he is which is hilarious. Also subscribe to PewDiePie was probably in the top 10 biggest Memes this year. There are literally thousands of videos of people online saying this. The support of PewDiePie by the right is ironic and funny something you dont seem to understand

No wonder the fascist symbol is a faggot with an axe in it. You all sound like a big bundle of sticks when you reply. The only thing counter culture about right wingers is they have out jihadist the jihadists with their closet case sperg shooters. Right wing terrorists have outdone the death count of 9/11 at this point. Shooting unarmed people sounds really courageous.

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No dude they weren’t whoever decided to do the OK thing knew it was funny and that’s what is this his intention, but you’ll only take the bait if you think we’re serious. I mean do you realize none of these things would exist if you weren’t sitting there taking the bait and validating them. If someone had said “white bread is now racist” and you had just rejected it and said “no it’s not it’s just bread” it would’ve literally gone nowhere. We need you to Co-create these things with us by your response. So basically the dog whistles only become serious once you decided it is

White supremacist symbolism becomes white supremacist symbolism once they as a group agree upon it. All the "it's a funny joke LOL" shit is just a layer of bullshit on top of that. It doesn't mean that everyone that flashes the OK sign or drinks milk is a nazi. But seeing such things coming from people using other similar memes should be an instant red flag. Their "lol it's a red herring to get all the libs triggered" posturing means fuckall.

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Dude we all fall for bait it doesn’t mean you have to do mental gymnastics to justify 100-year-old hand sign as now racist
You realize pol isn’t a group. We don’t even agree politically we’re just racist that’s about it. Also I agree with you that these things become more than what they are once the group decides. But I only agree with it if you include yourself and the rest of humanity in that group.

No dude that’s essentially the point. right there. you got it. I know the type of person you’re thinking about. the meme Lord who takes this shit way too seriously. Although I’ve never met him in real life I’m sure he exists. At which point I would just claim that, that individual is a victim of propaganda the same as you are, And is no less hilarious.

To be honest I’m not sure which type of person, that individual in your picture is. But I will tell you that saying subscribe to PewDiePie before wasting 50 people it’s probably some of the blackest humor I’ve ever seen, and I would not put past a pol tard off his rocker to make such a joke because he understood the consequences. But im not him idk his Sincerity or motivations for saying that or doing the OK, an neither do you. Because although you wouldn’t like to believe it, it is possible it was a joke. If hes sick enough to kill why would it be suprising to see him make light of it?

Everything you say is a bunch of disingenuous garbage meant to further your goal. It doesn't matter if it takes you one, two, or three paragraphs. I know some dumbass 11 year old saying subscribe to pewdiepie isn't a nazi. I'm not a liberal writing for huffpo or some shit. The hiding in plain sight tactics are glaringly obvious to people like me. Anime nazis and groyper twitter accounts stick out like sore thumbs because I'm not uninitiated. I've probably been on chan boards longer than you have and I know how it all works. These things help you guys identify each other in groups and bond without giving yourselves away to clueless normies. I'm not a clueless normie though, I'm an image board autist who wasted most of his life on this dumb shit. So don't be surprised when I publicly post the dox of you and one of your friends then have a telephone conversation with your mother about the websites you're visiting.

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All time classic video

He isn't saying that. In most contexts it isn't racist. It just turns out that it has become a symbol racists use.
Would you also argue that the swastika wasn't the symbol of the Nazi party?
Not everyone on Zig Forums belongs to the group he's talking about. It's shorthand for a large population within Zig Forums, you autist.
Internet aut-rightists like yourself immediately distance themselves from things they're associated with when it gets them into trouble. Because they're anonymous they get away with it as well. I guarantee you that 100% of "the type of person he's talking about" would have given the exact same response you're giving right now. It's so fucking predictable.
It's obviously a joke in his sick mind. The point is that it absolutely falls in line with the meme in general, and tells us something about its signification.

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If a bunch of Nazi's start using the okay Emoji as dumb as that is that means that emoji is basically a undercover Swastika to Nazi's who can then show it off without attracting much attention and spot each-other. What's so hard about that to understand?

If it triggers some libs as well that's just a bonus.

It's not really equating it with a swastika, it's comparing it to the swastika which was appropriated by Nazism. Dude, give it up. We know you already know this and are just making this bad faith argument for hyperbole's sake.

No we don't. We just went over this in the last few posts. You aren't buying this but you're still trying to shill it to us, a group that is well aware of your intent.

Mentally ill Zig Forumsacks shoot up a synagogue and pipe bomb some libtards, and the media went radio silent about it within a week

Another mentally ill Zig Forumsack killed 50 people because of memes, and the worst that could happen is 4chan shutting down as a whole if it will even get that far. The media is only calling out the vague "internet terrorist 4chan" and not the right wing as a whole

RL nazi orgs repeatedly outed as having connections to the police and the alphabet soup

Meanwhile an antifa kicks over a trash can and spray paints someone's front door, and the media won't shut up about "leftist terrorism" for years

Literally shut the fuck up, you have no leg to stand on here anymore. You are useful idiots given carte blanche by the establishment to bully and murder as you please. Just remember that eventually people will get fed up

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Dogwhistling isn't just to hide meaning from others but from yourself too. For a lot of these people it's a way to avoid cognitive dissonance over how dumb their real ideology is.

2nd option is preferred (especially if you frame it as a disagreement) but doesn't work on sites like Reddit where your reply can get deleted or hidden.