NatSocDem?

Oliver Smith
Oliver Smith

Why do people still call Hitler a socialist when what he did was clearly capitalism with a large welfare and military budget?
Would National Social Democrat be a more accurate label? (unironically)

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Elijah Myers
Elijah Myers

Strasserists + NazBols have been calling him a NutSacDem since the beginning. It's their main critique of him.

Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

MLs did it the other way round and relabeled socdems to social fascists.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

all socialism is defined how Marx defined it
Hurr durr durrrr

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

More like SucDemNuts amirite?

Oliver Hernandez
Oliver Hernandez

Because Marxists and NationaI SociaIist have different definitions of Socialism

NationaI SociaIism gives the means of production to the volk of the nation where as Marxism gives it to the proletariat

Also the USSR had a large welfare and military budget

Anthony Hill
Anthony Hill

Because western liberals have a vested interest in absolving western capitalism of its past sins (i.e. the fact that all of them supported Hitler) and make socialism seem evil in the eyes of the proles.

Noah Parker
Noah Parker

How can you expect to be taken seriously when what you define as socialism is indistinguishable from capitalism?

Owen Smith
Owen Smith

except its not

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

In what ways was Germany under the NSDAP not capitalist? Was the majority of the economy not organised in capitalist enterprises? Were capitalists not key players in the German government?

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

In what ways was Germany under the NSDAP not capitalist? Was the majority of the economy not organised in capitalist enterprises?

German industry was taken from foreign financiers, industry was under heavy state supervision, the entire economy was ran for the betterment of Germany not for profits.

Were capitalists not key players in the German government?
No NationaI SociaIists were

Jason Ramirez
Jason Ramirez

read a fucking book you dumbass ignorant cracker

Ryan Smith
Ryan Smith

Imagine believing this shit.

Isaac Robinson
Isaac Robinson

but you have no counter to that

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

Ah yes, the noted socialist, international financier banker Hjalmar Schacht lol

Jason Lopez
Jason Lopez

It's subjective since Nazis define "slaughtering innocent Russians" as being something that is "for the betterment of Germany." You can't reason with fascists. You can only marginalize and eventually eliminate them. Personally I see Hitler as a shittier version of FDR (a capitalist.)

Jaxson Powell
Jaxson Powell

There were classes, workers didn't own the means of production, Nazi "socialism" was openly antagonistic to Marxism and any other conception of socialism. In practice their "socialist" pretensions were demagogy meant to draw voters away from the SPD and KPD.

Camden Garcia
Camden Garcia

Privatising vast sections of the economy and selling off public services for quick bucks only to bankrupt the country and lose all its gold and currency reserves while corporate profits stashed away in british and american banks skyrocketed was for the betterment of Germany
wew

Christopher Cox
Christopher Cox

We have no real issues with your economic policies and intragroup egalitarianism, it's that you're led by, owned by, and enslaved to kykes.

– /pol/

Andrew Russell
Andrew Russell

By privatizing the economy, purging all the "left-leaning" elements of the NSDAP, persecuting socialists, invading and attempting to destroy the Soviet Union and "Jewish Bolshevism"? what kind of "socialism" is that? only in name, nothing the Nazis did was socialist in nature. and don't give me that "socialism but not marxism" bullshit, you can't just steal the term socialism, get rid of everything that makes it socialist, then claim that it's yours (or that you're the "real socialists" like i see a lot of Not Socialists do).

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

FDR
capitalist

Choose only one. You mean the president with a Communist Jew vice president warmonger? I don't know any "capitalist" that would have a Communist Jew vice president warmonger. Even the kike puppet GW Bush didn't have someone as bad as FDR's Communist Jew VP, Henry Wallace.

Elijah Bell
Elijah Bell

He was German

It's subjective since Nazis define "slaughtering innocent Russians" as being something that is "for the betterment of Germany."
Well they were at war so,,,

You can't reason with fascists. You can only marginalize and eventually eliminate them.
<When the enemy does the exact same thing I support its bad

Personally I see Hitler as a shittier version of FDR (a capitalist.)
Well he was a NationaI SociaIist so thats incorrect.

There were classes, workers didn't own the means of production, Nazi "socialism" was openly antagonistic to Marxism and any other conception of socialism. In practice their "socialist" pretensions were demagogy meant to draw voters away from the SPD and KPD.

NationaI SociaIism promotes class collaboration
Marxism promotes class war.
NationaI SociaIism hands the means of production to the volk of the nation
Marxism hands it to the international proletariat.

NationaI SociaIism is not Marxism it was a competitor.

By privatizing the economy, purging all the "left-leaning" elements of the NSDAP, persecuting socialists, invading and attempting to destroy the Soviet Union and "Jewish Bolshevism"?
They didn't "privatize the economy" the put stronger regulation on what was produced, The didn't purge all "left leaning elements" or persecute socialists. the purged and persecuted Marxists. The invaded the Soviet union because Germany and Russia had competing forms of socialism.

what kind of "socialism" is that? only in name, nothing the Nazis did was socialist in nature.
the removed international financiers and handed the means of production to the german people.

and don't give me that "socialism but not marxism" bullshit, you can't just steal the term socialism, get rid of everything that makes it socialist, then claim that it's yours (or that you're the "real socialists" like i see a lot of Not Socialists do).

Well thats what happened sans the removing socialist elements

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

/thread

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

nope

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

Because a large welfare budget basically entails socialism?

Dominic Powell
Dominic Powell

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Marxism IS socialism you stupid faggot, "class collaboration for the betterment of random country" is arguably the worst thing Nazis brought into left discussion.

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