Why uk invaded nazi germany

Instead of tye urss using poland invasion as a pretext when both germany and urss invanded and partitioned it?

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cuz germany was all like we gonna invade you and shit

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Maybe they considered germany a bigger threat than the urss and used poland invasion as a pretext to crush a potencial continental power that could rival uk ?

Well Churchill wanted to intervene in the Winter War too, but the main thing in Britain was that Germany was seen as a direct threat to Britain from the breaking of the Munich Agreement. Since about the 1890s there had been a cultural fear in Britain that Germany could grow strong enough to not only defeat her imperially, but could invade and occupy the British isles. Obviously this fear fed into Britain's entry into WWI. With the return of the Nazis, those that still held it on the british right (Churchill) pushed for war, however a large section of the British elite saw Hitler's Germany as something that could be dealt with since it wouldn't be an imperial competitor (see Halifax). Add to this anti-fascism as a motivation, especially in the Labour party (it should be noted that the war continued after the fall of France due to Labour support).

This, Britain's policy has always been no giants on the continent, same reason they fought Napoleon

Because Poland had a defensive alliance with the UK explicitly in the case of German aggression, also fuck Germans kurwa, stupid motherfuckers, thank you Stalin for fucking their shit up forever.

A better question is why Britain supported the Nazis for so long and delayed opening the Western front so long during WWII (until well after the tide had turned on the Eastern front).

The USSR invaded Poland two weeks after Germany invaded Poland and Britain and France declared war on Germany. Britain and France knew they couldn’t win a ware against both Germany and the USSR.

Yeah, they should have supported the French in putting Hitler down when he came to power. Always trust anglos to spread misery where they can.

They delayed western front unt it became clear that the ussr would occupy all of europe if the allies didnt intervene. Also US aid was necessary i think

Britain was literally giving Hitler Europe on a platter at the time. They deliberately built Nazi Germany up. Same with the USA. The early Nazi party got a huge part of its funding from Anglos and Yanks (as well as German military intelligence and booj). Hitler was a military spy who was actually assigned to work in the NSDAP. Mussolini was on MI5 payroll.


Ding ding. There were a few things at work here. Germany threatened to take Britain's empire and was bombing Britain, there was only so far that the Nazi sympathizers/collaborators in charge of Britain could hold out before retaliating. The Brits also probably deluded themselves that they could take a slice of the European pie if they really went to war, but it turned out that the USA got it all. These motivations were combined with the threat that the USSR could get Europe instead. Stalin was right to keep goading the USA and UK to war with Germany however, since they really were teetering on just declaring an outright alliance with Germany. Even though they salvaged the Third Reich and turned it into NATO, it was a better result than the alternative.

some shotty peace treaty will poland or something right?

I think that was just plain cowardice, also their own personal interests vis a vis their empire. The Americans wanted to open a second front as early as 1942, but the Brits kept on insisting on shit like North Africa.

Because the UK and France had already let Germany get away with remilitarising the Rhineland, annexing Austria, annexing the Sudetenland, and annexing the rest of Czechoslovakia. Poland was the absolute last straw.

capitalist nation do not need to be aligned because of the sole fact they're capitalist.

On the very contrary, just as capitalism establishes a brutal competence between capitalist, it also establishes competence between capitalist nations. And Germany was the most urgent threat to Great Britain and other western countries interest. After defeating them and normalizing the west, they could move on the fighting the USSR, which is what they did.

Like others said, the USSR had been trying for ages to ally with the UK and France in order to cordon Nazi Germany, so the UK's treaty with Poland was specific about German invasion.

Incidentally, this paper is, as far as I know, the most comprehensive history of these negotiations. tl;dr: Uncle Joe was begging for an allaince, France was pathetically submissive to the UK, and the latter opted to risk appeasing Hitler rather than getting near the Reds, seeing as virtually all the rest of Europe's governments had more sympathy for the Nazis than for the Soviets. Also, related to that, Romania and Poland refused to allow Soviet land access in case of German invasion.

Because comunist revolution in the urss was supported by the jews tha partially controlled uk and nazi germany was a much higher threat to them that a jewish lead revolutionary regime like the urss

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Damn, sauce? This is pretty big, for me at least. Hitler I always figured was some sort of foreign-supported instigator but Mussolini being MI5 is new to me.

Is user typing with his feet? I’m confused

Come on m8, British and American porkies helped the fascists get into power, and NATO is shit, but this is just fantasy.

Mussolini:
theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy

Hitler:
I checked the sources on this a while ago and they seem trustworthy. The English language books cited cite German docs on this matter.
Aside from the fact that Hitler was assigned to the DAP by the German military (the idea that he was just sent to "spy" on them and then "defected" is laughable) and was being directed by generals involved in the Kapp Putsch, he also received extremely light treatment in prison (was able to run a newspaper out of it, lived practically in luxury) and got millions of dollars from Americans and Anglos. So the foreign involvement angle is interesting, you have to ask how far it went. IE, was the German military being puppeteered to an extent as well?

see:

Also NATO was literally full of Nazi soldiers and SS, even its chairman (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger) was a Nazi. Every megacorp in Germany is run by the children of Nazi party and SS members.
You are consistently one of the stupidest posters on here.

"Appeasement" is a whitewash narrative. The reality is that Britain WANTED Hitler's rise to power, and Germany's domination of Europe.

They DID want Hitler's rise and the crushing of the left in Germany. They DID NOT want German domination because that would threaten their imperial holdings and influence on the continent.

Prussian military aristocracy had their own deep state in Germany, so they already opposed communists. They did have the Konto 5 slush fund, though. It's not like they were different from other porkies.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery_of_senior_Wehrmacht_officers

Of the British empire, sure. But the Brits literally did want Hitler to dominate Eastern Europe (and gave it to him deliberately) and were fine with him taking France too.
As well, from the Yank perspective, it was all gravy. The Germans destroying other European empires and then themselves in a great conflagration was a dream come true for the USA.
From both perspectives, the destruction of Soviet Power was the ultimate goal, and getting Germany to do it for them was the plan.>>2849768
Yeah, absolutely. But given the way Germany was being dominated by other countries post-WWI, one could guess that there was a fair amount of foreign control of the German military at the time.

same reason Stalin made a pact with hitler: to bleed the europeans white so the communists would swoop in after the West exhausted itself.

Ian Kershaw's Hitler: Hubris mentions all this, and that's the definitive biography
as for mussolini he was funded by the head of Fiat as well

Stalin signed the M-R pact after the western allies refused to ally with the USSR, and made it clear that they were more interested in the soviets being destroyed.

To expand on this, the USSR had spent the years 1934-1939 trying to get the UK and France to work with it against fascist aggression, but the British and French governments were more interested in enticing Hitler to march eastward and invade the USSR. Here's a contemporary work on the subject: archive.org/details/LightOnMoscow

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact gave the USSR two additional years to build up its defense capabilities and expand the amount of territory the Nazis would be compelled to fight through in their rush toward Leningrad and Moscow.