Can anyone convince me that starting fires is bad praxis? You're more likely to...

Cameron Anderson
Cameron Anderson

Can anyone convince me that starting fires is bad praxis? You're more likely to face jail time for punching a nazi in the face at a rally or for marching without a permit than you are for committing arson .

I can't think of anything that would terrify porky more than burning shit down or having random bombs go off. If you just use your brain, you're not going to get caught and you might cost $10,000 or more in property damage. If a bomb goes off somewhere, a bunch of workers get the day off and you create jobs by forcing insurance companies to fund repairs.

Arson investigation is a joke its complete pseudoscience. just don't leave fingerprints or get caught on camera. Your unlikely to hurt anyone if you time it right. And it feels so good to watch the fire grow.

Not inciting anything or naming targets or a location. Please keep this thread incredibly hypothetical. Glow in darks watching

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Robert White
Robert White

Poor Man's James Bond

vol1, 139: Fireworks and explosives"
vol1, 283: Arson by electronics
vol1, 423: Explosives, matches, and fireworks
vol2, 329: The chemistry of Powder and explosives
vol3, 274: Incendiaries

Nathaniel Moore
Nathaniel Moore

What would that even accomplish

Connor Price
Connor Price

It scares workers off without backing.

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

Hurts the pockets off porky

Jaxson Hill
Jaxson Hill

*of

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

If a bomb goes off somewhere, a bunch of workers get the day off and you create jobs by forcing insurance companies to fund repairs.

Broken window fallacy.

Jonathan Morris
Jonathan Morris

Don't want to be profiled for being an arsonist?

if you don't have an extensive criminal record or below average Autism Level you'll probably get away with it. plus police dept and fire depts fight.

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Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

Sounds like most of the time they assume the following:

- the arsonist is a retarded drunk who police already know
- the arsonist is the business owner, doing it for insurance purposes
- the arsonist is a bored firefighter who wants to be a hero

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Landon Nguyen
Landon Nguyen

Not really, they have insurance, you'd have to do it 4 or 5 times to the same building as it gets rebuilt to have the effect you want, not to mention you risk killing whatever prole is working in that building unintentionally, so you've now got a manslaughter charge along with arson

Anthony Campbell
Anthony Campbell

only about 2% of all arsonists are ever arrested

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Robert Ross
Robert Ross

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Twenty Common Ignitable Liquids used as Fire Accelerants
1. Acetone - (dimethyl ketone, 2-propanone), (C3H6O), flash point -4 degrees F (-20 degrees C); ignition temperature 869 degrees F (465.4 degrees C); explosive limits 2.6%-13.0%; vapor density 2.0; specific gravity 0.792; toxicity (3). A volatile, flammable, colorless, liquid ketone having a fragrant odor and miscible with water, alcohol, and most oils. Principal uses are as a solvent in lacquers, varnishes, cosmetics, nail polish remover, and in the mixture of other solvents.

2. Carbon Disulfide - (carbon disulfide), (CS2) flash point -22 degrees F (-30 degrees C); ignition temperature 212 degrees F (100 degrees C); explosive limits 1.3% to 50%; vapor density 2.6; specific gravity 1.26; toxicity (2). A volatile, flammable, colorless to yellow liquid with a rotten egg odor. Carbon Disulfide, unlike most of the other common ignitable liquids, is heavier than water and will sink.

3. Coleman Fuel - (Coleman fuel C-2538, white gasoline, camping stove fuel, camping lantern fuel); (chemical formula - Coleman fuel is a mixture of hydrocarbons & doesn't have a single formula); flash point -27 degrees F (-33 degrees C); ignition temperature - not reported; explosive limit LEL is 0.7% - UEL not reported; vapor density 3.7; specific gravity .744; toxicity (3). A straight run, unrefined, petroleum distillate used in camping stoves and lanterns. Camp stove fuels in general have a carbon range of C5 - C11.

4. Ethyl Alcohol - (ethanol, grain alcohol), (C2H5OH), flash point 55 degrees F (13 degrees C); ignition temp. 689 degrees F (365 degrees C); explosive limits 3.5%-19.0%; vapor density 1.6; specific gravity 0.8; toxicity (0). A volatile, flammable, colorless liquid having a pleasant odor and miscible in water and many organic liquids. Principal uses are in alcoholic beverages, as a solvent in pharmaceuticals, cleaning preparations, and some antifreezes.

5. Ethyl Ether - (ether, diethyl ether), (C2H5)2O, flash point -49 degrees F (-45 degrees C); ignition temperature 356 degrees F (180 degrees C); explosive limits 1.9% - 36%; vapor density 2.6; specific gravity 0.7; toxicity (2). A volatile, highly flammable, colorless liquid which forms explosive peroxides under the influence of air and light and has a sweetish odor and is slightly miscible in water, methanol, and oils. Principle uses as a solvent in organic synthesis, smokeless powder and industrial solvents.

6. Fuel oil no. 1- (kerosene, range oil, coal oil, Jet - A (aviation) fuel); Chemical formula is a carbon range of C9 - C17; flash point 110 degrees F - 162 degrees F (42 degrees C - 72 degrees C); ignition temp. 410 degrees F (210 degrees C); explosive limits 0.7% - 5%; vapor density .7 - 5; specific gravity 0.81; Toxicity (3). A colorless, combustible, straight run petroleum distillate liquid having a characteristic odor miscible in petroleum solvents and immiscible in water. Principal uses as an ingredient in lamp oils, charcoal starter fluids, jet engine fuels and insecticides. K-1 kerosene has a low sulfur content and is used in portable space heaters.

7. Fuel oil no. 2 (home heating fuel, diesel fuel), Chemical formula is a carbon range of C9 - C23, flash point 126 degrees F-204 degrees F (52 degrees C- 96 degrees C); ignition temperature 494F (257C); explosive limits - not reported; vapor density greater than 1; specific gravity less than 1; toxicity (3). A light brown, combustible, straight run or cracked petroleum distillate consisting mostly of C9 - C23 range hydrocarbons. Principal uses include heating fuel in domestic or commercial atomizing type burners and as a fuel in diesel engines.

8. Gasoline - (gas, motor fuel) Chemical formula - gasoline is a blended mixture of aromatic and aliphatic hydrocarbons; flash point -45 degrees F (-43 degrees C); ignition temp. 536 degrees F (280 degrees C) for 56 - 60 octane grade; explosive limits 1.4%-7.6%; vapor density 3.0 - 4.0; specific gravity 0.8; Toxicity (3). A highly flammable, blended liquid composed of more than 300 volatile hydrocarbon compounds manufactured from the fractionation or distillation of petroleum. Gasoline is the most commonly identified ignitable liquid accelerant reported by American forensic laboratories. Its principal use is as a fuel in spark ignited, internal combustion engines.

9. Isopropyl alcohol- (IPA, isopropanol, 2-propanol), (CH3 CHOHCH3), flash point 54 degrees F (12 degrees C); ignition temp. 750 degrees F (399 degrees C); explosive limits 2.5%-12.0%; vapor density 2.1; and specific gravity 0.79; Toxicity (3). A colorless, flammable liquid which is miscible in water, ether, and alcohol and having a pleasant odor. Principal uses as an ingredient in lacquers, rubbing alcohol, denaturant and lotions.

10. Kerosene - Refer to Fuel Oil #1. Kerosene is identical to Fuel Oil #1 from an investigator's standpoint.
ommercial applications.

Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

11. Lacquer - Composition and properties of this category of product vary by manufacturer. A spirit varnish such as shellac; any of clear or colored synthetic organic coatings that typically dry to form a film by evaporation of the solvent.

12. Lacquer Thinner - A mixture of highly volatile solvents, miscible in water, of varying composition and properties depending on the manufacturer.

13. Methyl alcohol (methanol, wood alcohol) (CH3OH); flash point 54 degrees F (12 degrees C); ignition temp. 867 degrees F (484 degrees C); explosive limits 6.7% - 36%; vapor density 1.1; specific gravity 0.79; toxicity (4). A colorless, flammable, poisonous liquid having a slight alcohol odor when pure, miscible in water, ethanol, ketones and most other organic solvents. Principal uses as an ingredient in antifreeze, dry gas, windshield washer fluids and as a denaturant in ethanol.

14. Methyl ethyl ketone (MEK,2-butanone) (CH3COCH2CH3); flash point 16 degrees F ( -9 degrees C); ignition temp. 759 degrees F (404 degrees C); explosive limits 1.9%-10.0%; vapor density 2.5; specific gravity O.8; and toxicity (3). A colorless, flammable liquid having an acetone-like odor miscible in alcohol, ether, and slightly soluble in water. Principal use as a solvent in nitrocellulose coatings and lacquers, paint removers, cements and adhesives and in the manufacture of printed circuit boards.

15. Mineral Spirits (see paint thinner)

16. Naphtha (V M & P) A general term which may describe combustible products such as mineral spirits or flammable products such as petroleum ether. The IAAI Forensic Science Committee recommends that the term be avoided. Principle uses of products in this class include thinner in paints and varnishes and as a fuel for pocket lighters. Flash point, explosive limits and other properties vary by manufacturer.

17. Paint Thinner (mineral spirits), Paint thinner or mineral spirits is a complex petroleum distillate; flash point range is listed as 104 degrees F (40 degrees C) - 110 degrees F (43 degrees C); ignition temperature 473 degrees F (245 degrees C); explosive limits 0.8% @ 212 degrees F (100 degrees C); vapor density 3.9; specific gravity 0.8; toxicity (3). A category of clear, combustible liquid having petroleum type odor. Mineral spirits are midrange petroleum distillates ranging from C8 to C12 which is present in many paint thinners, oil base stains, dry cleaning solvents, and some brands of charcoal starter fluids. There may be slight variations in the chemical information provided for different manufacturers.

18. Toluene (methylbenzene, phenylmethane) (C6H5CH3); flash point 40 degrees F (4 degrees C); ignition temp. 896 F (480 degrees C); explosive limits 1.3% -7.0%; vapor density 3.1; specific gravity 0.8; toxicity (2). A colorless, flammable liquid with a benzene-like odor, miscible in alcohol, ether, acetone and very slightly soluble in water. Principal use as a solvent in paints and coatings, paint removers, explosives (TNT), adhesive solvent for model airplanes, and as a base for polyurethane resins.

19. Turpentine (oil of turpentine) (C10H16) - The chemical formula varies with the manufacturer; flash point 90 degrees F-115 degrees F (32 degrees C - 46 degrees C); ignition temp. 488 degrees F (253 degrees C); explosive limit (LEL) .8% - (UEL) not reported ; vapor density less then 1; specific gravity 0.8; toxicity (4). A colorless, combustible liquid derived from steam distillation of wood from pine (conifer) trees. Turpentine is miscible in oils, ether, and chloroform. Principal uses are as a drying agent or as a solvent for thinners of paints, lacquers, varnishes and used in wax-based polishes and liniments. It is also used to manufacture certain linoleums, soap, ink, artificial campour and rubber.

20. Xylenes - (dimethylbenzene) C6H4 (CH3)2; flash point 29 degrees F ( - 2 degrees C) ; ignition temperature 867 degrees F (464 degrees C); explosive limits - not reported (moderate fire risk) ; vapor density > 1; specific gravity 0.86; toxicity (4). A colorless, flammable liquid miscible in alcohol and ether, insoluble in water. Xylene is isolated from crude wood distillate or obtained from fractional distillation of petroleum or coal tar. Commercial xylene is a mixture of three isomers, o-, m-, and p-xylene, the m-isomer predominates. Xylenes, a common chemical, are used for conversion to polyester fibers and plasticizers in the plastic industry, in aviation gasoline, rubber cements, automotive enamels, paints and lacquers, and a variety of other c

Carson Carter
Carson Carter

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Colton Young
Colton Young

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Basically a "how to commit arson" guide written by fire investigators and law enforcement

Site is NOT https

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

only about 2% of all arsonists are ever arrested
Just like "90% of rapes go unreported"?

Chase Gonzalez
Chase Gonzalez

Random acts of terrorism aren't useful, 9/11 didn't do shit against American imperialism, in fact it was used to justify more fucking imperialism, the very reason the New Left got destroyed was thanks to random crimes.

James Wood
James Wood

only about 2% of all arsonists are ever arrested
that's assuming each arsonist only commits one arson. What if one arsonist commits 98% of all the arsons before being arrested? Then 100% of arsonists have been arrested.

Carter Martin
Carter Martin

I bet if 9/11 happened 100 more times then it would have done something. Persistence is key.

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Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

that's assuming something reasonable
what if instead this impossible fucking retarded thing happened?
wow really makes u think

Noah Brown
Noah Brown

Scale is actually pretty important.

Xavier Ortiz
Xavier Ortiz

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Angel Ross
Angel Ross

That's the whole reason why school shooters do what they do. They want to inspire copycats. The incident in itself is barely nothing. But if 10 school shootings happened in a week or 50 school shootings happened in a month you can be sure as shit that something would happen. And the people who perpetrate these acts know that there's at least 50 people in their country as crazy and desperate and suicidal, etc as they are.

The reason why the NZ shooter's stunt was ultimately a failure is because no one responded within a day or even a week of his spectacle. By all measures he should have inspired plenty of copycats, but he didn't. Total failure.

best case scenario for arson against a business would be setting it up to look like the business owner did it. That way they're out $100,000+ probably go into debt and end up shunned by all their friends.

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

A casio F91W is the perfect detonator for a bomb.

worn by both Barack Obama and Osama Bin Ladin ,
cost $10 , available everywere

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Julian Campbell
Julian Campbell

thanks?

Lincoln Brooks
Lincoln Brooks

I mean if you're gonna burn something at least make sure it's something real valuable. No reason to torch a petty bourgeois bakery.

An amazon warehouse however…