Optimism Thread

Levi Green
Levi Green

liberationnews.org/communist-party-of-turkey-tkp-wins-dersim-province-in-local-elections/
"Communist Party of Turkey (TKP) wins Dersim province in local elections"

Communism with turkish characteristics, the bloody roaches only went an did it.

Where else in the world is socialism flourishing, where shows the most promise or best hope for further advances? Alot of western twitter got a view of what international communism looks like with the awesome video Kerala communists made.

Use this thread as a place to get excited and organised, as capitalism was inevitable summation of feudalism, socialism is the only outcome that can come from capitalism.

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Wyatt Bell
Wyatt Bell

Where else in the world is socialism flourishing
Don't know how much of this is the case but apparently Argentina. Socialism (more specifically trotskyism) is getting more and more popular there. And with an inflation rate of ~70% with no signs of lowering will hopefully cause more people to radicalize.

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

We will all die before socialism reaches global heights.

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

you bastard, you bloody fuck.

John Baker
John Baker

This is interesting to me, as an anglo i have this impression of argentina as a con/neo-lib state ever since the military junta and the falklands.
South American socialism has a real quality to it, so would be exciting to see if anything comes of it, especially with their proximity to chile/ brazil.

Nathaniel Stewart
Nathaniel Stewart

Communist Party of Turkey (TKP)
What is their affiliation, if they have any, with the other communist groups in turkey?

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

"The part sees AKP, CHP and MHP as bourgeois parties and classifies them as opposing class parties. The party has warm relations with ÖDP, EMEP and Halkevleri, sometimes organising joint activities in local levels.

The party defends an orthodox view in communist movement and urges the movement to define its borders clearly. The party is quite close to Communist Party of Greece and the Communist Party of the Peoples of Spain in international level. It has ties with many communist and worker's parties in the Middle East, Caucasus and Balkans. It has close relations with the Communist Party of Cuba, leading a pioneer role in the solidarity for Cuba. TKP is a member of the Initiative of Communist and Workers' Parties. The party joins the efforts to build an international focal point by issuing a magazine about communist theory called International Communist Review. The youth of TKP is a member of World Federation of Democratic Youth."
t.TKP wikipedia

Matthew Howard
Matthew Howard

optimism in this day and age is unironically reactionary

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee

J'ai passé un peu de temps dans un espace à gauche où chacun devait exprimer son bonheur en exprimant son malheur. C'était des ordures postmodernes et des abus post-linguistiques. J'ai beaucoup de sympathie pour les causes de gauche, mais les progressistes ne devraient pas être cette alliance sociopatho-narcissique qui impose leur vision du monde aux autres. Ils doivent être capables de tolérer un large éventail d'expériences émotionnelles et d'expressions honnêtes. La gauche ne peut être post-gentillesse si elle veut valoriser la vérité, car l'efficacité fondamentale des honnêtes gens leur permettra de trouver leur place ailleurs.

Je ne veux pas non plus dire un mot qui exalte le genre de fanatisme qui a conduit nos politiques d'immigration à devenir une campagne d'extraction contre des gouvernements étrangers défavorisés. Nous avons retiré beaucoup de personnes utiles de pays fragiles et nous les avons mal remboursés. Nous aurions dû aider les habitants d'autres pays à se stabiliser à leur emplacement actuel.

Je me suis plaint contre la gauche. Je ne veux pas dire que je sympathise avec la droite. L'autodestruction de la droite n'est guère une alternative à l'autre destruction de la gauche. Je me demande si les outils malhonnêtes de contrôle culturel qui étaient auparavant de droite sont devenus des outils malhonnêtes de contrôle culturel supervisés par les gardes de gauche aujourd'hui.

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

Surely its pessimism thats the reactionary one, both literally and philosophically?

Julian Martinez
Julian Martinez

Not entirely sure how well i'll translate to french, nor whether the translation im seeing is accurate to your intention but we'll go on.

The issue you describe of your experience isn't exclusive to the left, but of much of society. In a system which preaches meritocracy, receiving a poor hand in life garners more than sympathy, it holds an amount of respect almost. A mutual recognition of character. I agree though that the left cant lie or coddle people.

Your stance on immigration is worded as if it comes from a place of compassion and empathy, but reeks of the same narrative as other anti-immigration arguments. The idea that these people, no matter how smart or qualified, have been "brought in" or "removed" as a matter of institutional immigration, rather than individuals making choices to seek better lives in countries that are evidently doing better economically. Again, perhaps the translation is skewing your words, and i agree would should be reimbursing many countries (reparations) as well as providing further support for them, but not as a matter of sending anyone back, or not even allowing them in in the first place.

" I do not want to say that I sympathize with the right." And yet, you say it there. I'm not sure what you mean specifically by "dishonest tools of cultural control", but its not the left that's in control of anything. Unless you're talking about Cuba, or Laos, or China, there's no leftist government in control of anything. Again, this argument reeks, ideas of "culture wars" are the domain only of the right wing and liberals who think there is such a thing to war over.

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

Mark my words guys. Turkey will be the first worker's state of the 21st Century.

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Colton Sullivan
Colton Sullivan

Dubs of truth have spoken.

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

Optimism Thread
Capitalism is decaying before our eyes.
It is crumbling, the sun sets on an age.
Through the stormy night, a new world emerges from the ashes of the old.
The sun rises
AND THE DAWN IS RED

Who was the dude that posted that "copypasta" about history unfolding as prophecy? Can someone post it?

Juan Torres
Juan Torres

We're on our way fellas

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Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

What do they think about Kurds?

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

From what ive read, the region they've been elected in is majority ethnic-kurdish. Tunceli province is eastern Turkey so i cant imagine a left wing party in the east of turkey would be elected without also being pro-kurd, but im not familiar with their policy platform whatsoever

Jack Torres
Jack Torres

Argentina
trotskyism
What does that mean?

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Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

It means Posadas is coming back, comrade

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Landon Nelson
Landon Nelson

They use the Kurdish name for the province, so I'd say thry are friendly.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

it is becoming increasingly difficult for people to deny the decay and downward spiral capitalism is in. it iwll take time, and will take action and influence on our part to make it happen, but it's possible.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

His son, Leon Cristalli, sure looks like him.

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Jack Lopez
Jack Lopez

I really don't understand why people think capitalism is stable right now, maybe they're too blind to see it.

Josiah Mitchell
Josiah Mitchell

Trotskism only gets like 5% of votes at most, dude.

Source: I'm argentinian

Isaac Turner
Isaac Turner

That is huge for a western nation. I'm chilean and in our latest elections a ML candidate got 0.8% of the votes (~20.000). To give you an idea that is even less than the amount of total militants that party has.

Dylan Russell
Dylan Russell

Where else in the world is socialism flourishing, where shows the most promise or best hope for further advances? Alot of western twitter got a view of what international communism looks like with the awesome video Kerala communists made.
Huge strikes in prisons
newyorker.com/news/as-told-to/an-inside-account-of-the-national-prisoners-strike
Burgerville
itsgoingdown.org/portland-fast-food-revolt-grows-portland/
Also Libcom doesn't stand for liberal"communist" anymore
twitter.com/LEAKING_CUMMIES/status/1112704678633058305

Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

Also Libcom doesn't stand for liberal"communist" anymore
I just realized this is an April fools joke and I want to fucking

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

Why didn't I keep reading the tweets

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Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

Finally some good news!

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

yes, this guy is retarded

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

I wont lie, its been hard to keep faith recent months/years. Ive slowly started ironically but not really supporting a hard brexit for acceleration reasons. It's good to so elsewhere theres real change happening

Jonathan Allen
Jonathan Allen

Accelerationism is a retarded meme. Get out and organize if you give a shit about anyone but yourself.

Gabriel Smith
Gabriel Smith

still figuring out whether or not i do give a shit, but youre spot on with this one

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

the awesome video Kerala communists made.
sauce?

Brandon Davis
Brandon Davis

twitter.com/i/status/1109058664239910914

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

`>>2854723
I've been a leftist since 2007. I remember raids on FRSO, I remember Occupy, and I remember everything else before, after, and inbetween. Y'all(I'm southern stffu about this) should be optimistic as fuck and fighting harder than ever. The left has exploded the past few years. Sure there are a ton of Bernie fags, but they are all potential communists. At worst the succdems have actually revived American communism and given us an opportunity to recruit a few hundred thousand people. If we fail to reach such a low bar it is out own failing because the opportunity is there. Even the worst anti-communist propaganda has limited reach. When real people fill the gaps the lies fall apart. We have to fight for more constantly. There is no end to our struggle in sight.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

I've been a leftist since 2007. I remember raids on FRSO, I remember Occupy, and I remember everything else before, after, and inbetween. Y'all(I'm southern stffu about this) should be optimistic as fuck and fighting harder than ever. The left has exploded the past few years. Sure there are a ton of Bernie fags, but they are all potential communists. At worst the succdems have actually revived American communism and given us an opportunity to recruit a few hundred thousand people. If we fail to reach such a low bar it is out own failing because the opportunity is there. Even the worst anti-communist propaganda has limited reach. When real people fill the gaps the lies fall apart. We have to fight for more constantly. There is no end to our struggle in sight.

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

I'm peruvian and I don't know if the left will win in 2021. But at the rate of the stagnation of markets,commodities and more.Probably the population will get angry at the goverment(now is more a peacekeeper than when the VP ascended and was frontal against the corrupt right/maybe he is corrupt also,who knows?).
But in 2016 the people's vote gave the left (reformist and somewhat socialist) 22%. And now they are preparing/ triying to unite in a coalition.
Pic related: Communist party-Unity. New Peru (socialdemocrat) 2 leftist governors and one ex leftist governor(ex member of P,CP-Red fatherland.

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Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

I wish! In fact, any kind of worker's state would be more than I expect.

Benjamin Fisher
Benjamin Fisher

is it flourushing in greece? I've seen news clips of pretty big rallies in greece, and they don't look to be infested with idpol, either.

Levi Sullivan
Levi Sullivan

TurKKKey, like AmeriKKKa, is an illegitimate settler state which must be destroyed. Western Turkey will be returned to the indigenous Greeks, and eastern Turkey to the indigenous Armenians.

Brayden Torres
Brayden Torres

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Bentley Hernandez
Bentley Hernandez

To everyone who feels like were at the end of history, just look at this graph to learn that we aren’t.

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Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

All states are spooks, so get rid of that delusion and embrace Chad tradition within sub communities within "nationalities" of people inside gommunism