Leaving the alt-right movement

John Bailey
John Bailey

No bullshit over the last couple months I've been thinking about my involvement in the alt-right movement and I want to get out. I didn't join any organizations but I was an online shitlord and at one time called myself a white nationalist.

I realized how fucked up it all was, and after the Christchurch massacre I felt sick to my stomach for a week. I also just can't stand the negativity of those people anymore and want to move on with my life.

What can I do to redeem myself? I'm considering phoning ExitUSA which is an organization for helping white supremacists but I'm not sure if its designed for online shit lords like me who don't have nazi tattoos and real world connections with white supremacy. I swear to god I'm serious 100% repentant and want to fix my ways.

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marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1903/feb/15.htm
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/nov/28.htm
rbth.com/history/327040-ussr-and-israel-from-friends-to-foes
mosaicmagazine.com/response/israel-zionism/2017/11/communism-zionism-and-the-jews-a-brief-romance/
desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/

Jayden Johnson
Jayden Johnson

don't have nazi tattoos and real world connections with white supremacy.
If your behaviour was limited to being edgy online i don't think you should feel that guilty, be glad you got out of there before you made life decisions. Why did you come here, specifically, i know you are no longer a white supremacist, but where do your views currently lay on economically?

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

Don't beat yourself up over ideology. Don't be so quick to pledge allegiance to anyone. Sleep for twelve hours and stop going to 4chan.
It's simple, isn't it? Like I have always said to nobody besides myself, "Uneasy peace is aided by deep sleep".

Kayden Howard
Kayden Howard

I think at this point 20-30% of our users are former /pol/yps. Hang around for a while.

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson


Pull the other leg mate, nobody believes this kike-posting.
Nobody who calls themselves a white nationalist and is informed on all the ways whites have been attacked, vilified, raped, beaten, tortured and mutilated, is going to care that some muzzies got killed, I'm barely alt-lite and even I reacted with "FINALLY one of ours got a bit of revenge, FINALLY, there's a body count above zero in the non-white column" even if those particular muzzies didn't deserve it, there has to be reciprocation, whites aren't going to just take the abuse forever.

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

Replace white in this paragraph with any identity you want.

Matthew Hill
Matthew Hill

(me still) i'm super gay by the way

Charles Miller
Charles Miller

FINALLY one of ours got a bit of revenge, FINALLY, there's a body count above zero in the non-white column
Imagine thinking this after your government waged like 10 wars in muslim countries in 5 years.

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

finally one of ours got a bit of revenge

you are so fucking stupid

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Camden Hall
Camden Hall

lel laying it on a bit too thick with the AstroTurf there moishe

Nolan Reed
Nolan Reed

all i can say is that keep in mind leftist thought is a material philosophy, it's very different from the idealist right wing thought. i don't mean to sway you away, it's very different is all. i'd recommend some works that focus on Historical Materialism. there is a reading list, and you could always ask /marx/index.html for some questions.
also be careful of false-flagers from /pol/, they got nothing better to do then nazipost so to eventually hijack a thread.

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Angel Johnson
Angel Johnson

only psychos and literal retards will stick with your death cult in the end. youre dumb if you think constantly murdering people wins you supporters. no, every time you bleed supporters. and guess who absorbs them?

Asher Green
Asher Green

Post more communist cats.

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Elijah Lopez
Elijah Lopez

white revolution is not a dinner party

Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

yeah, it's more like a human centipede

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

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Liam Carter
Liam Carter

I'll participate in the one big vore union

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Luis Myers
Luis Myers

white revolution is a cookout

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

Being the enslaved golem of Israel, clearing out the Muslims for them and bring them here to the west, that's meant to be trade off that lets us watch as they rape children in England, since the fucking 80's!? and think to ourselves "yeah we deserve this"?

This the deeply triggering and problematicst cuck filled section of 8ch I've ever seen.

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

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Christian Lee
Christian Lee

If your behaviour was limited to being edgy online i don't think you should feel that guilty, be glad you got out of there before you made life decisions.
Trips of truth.

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

what does this post even mean

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

Sounds good to me

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Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

imagine being this fucking embarrassingly retarded

yeah we deserve this
who believes this outside of your fucking paint-huffing delusions? were you a crack baby or something?

Lincoln Reyes
Lincoln Reyes

bart simpson?

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

Congrats, you learned that politics is a brain dead activity full of divisiveness and violence. Do yourself a favour and don't become a radical of the other side.

Maybe try dedicating your life to doing something useful, rather than indulging in the Satanic skullfuck of politics.

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

Subscribe to Contrapoints. Watch her entire catalog of videos 4 or 5 times. Come back, admit you're a piece of shit colonizer and tell us how you'll atone for your sins. Alternatively if you're in the united states house a few revolutionaries in your house or aliens.

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

Yeah man just like, learn to weave baskets or something, don't bother with all that politicsy stuff, who cares if the rulling class murders and enslaves us lmao just try to like, be a good person and like, sing some songs about jesus and stuff.

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Colton Lewis
Colton Lewis

this. I watched three contrapositive videos and I'm now completely deradicalzed. I take my estrogen hormones, donate all of my money to splc, and am raising three African orphans as a transmom.

Thank you for deradicalizing me contrapositives

Mason Allen
Mason Allen

Fuck off nazi faggots.

Wyatt Harris
Wyatt Harris

Being the enslaved golem of Israel, clearing out the Muslims for them
So the right?

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David Baker
David Baker

when communists have consistently been opposing Israel for half a century while right wingers have been sucking Israeli nuts and funding their death machine but somehow communists are Israeli jew spies

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Jayden Lewis
Jayden Lewis

Goyim, jew only control one side but not ours! Please ignore how we were funded by jews!
Your tactics aren't working mossad

Adam Jones
Adam Jones

Please ignore how we were funded by jews!
No, not really. The only Jewish financier I know of involved in the Russian revolution would be Schiff, and Schiff only backed the provisional government. He had nothing to do with the Bolsheviks.

Chase Nguyen
Chase Nguyen

I didn't say jews control your side you dumb nazi.

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Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

Zionists were involved though

Brayden Morales
Brayden Morales

Right wingers are under jewish control
I never said jews control your dumb side
Are you mentally ill?

Also, not right-winger, just stating how both of you guys are kiked

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Julian Jenkins
Julian Jenkins

Sucking ones nuts does not necessarily mean permanent control. One could make the assumption that he is referring to how many right-wing governments professed open support for Israel.

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

Conservatives have been funding Israel as their vanguard for imperialism in the middle east, that does not imply jews/zionists control conservatives, you god damn fucking retard.

John Price
John Price

Right-wingers do it for free.

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Oliver Baker
Oliver Baker

I'm sure FOX news is a very non-jew worthy source

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Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

Yes, it seems they lack the jewish love for money, no wonder they found them so eagerly.

Jace Evans
Jace Evans

Do you actually think that the right means republican and left means democrat?

Joshua King
Joshua King

Well, he didn't say that the Jews control the right. Just that the right suck their nuts.
Also, not right-winger, just stating how both of you guys are kiked
Yes, I too remember all of those Marxist-Leninist and national liberation movements backed by Israel.

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Samuel Reed
Samuel Reed

If I did, I'd be a mindless drone, mate. Honestly, we're kinda flipped in the eyes of other countries.

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

You are a mindless drone if you think communists and zionists have anything in common.

Easton Phillips
Easton Phillips

Zionist and Communists have nothing in common goyim! Ignore any kind of countradicting evidence you see.
Incredible how blind one can be

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

Can you post some contradicting evidence for the goyim to see and ignore other than "there were jewish communists"?

Dylan Wright
Dylan Wright

Here's my evidence

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Christian Scott
Christian Scott

They don't. They are literally in conflict with each other ideologically. Zionism holds that the Jewish people have an ethno-religous right to form a strictly Jewish homeland in the State of Palestine. Marxist-Leninism (and Marxism in general) rejects both the idea of ethnostates and their anti-materialist justifications. Marxists as early as Lenin opposed Zionism, and as well as nearly every other major Marxist theorist.
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1903/feb/15.htm
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/nov/28.htm

Jacob Evans
Jacob Evans

Yo, this is a revelation, please go on.

Luke Nguyen
Luke Nguyen

when the fictitious art of an ideological narrative is used as solid grounds for describing the real

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

Sorry I thought it was obvious I was false flagging here.

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Owen Bennett
Owen Bennett

that red skeleton looks cool

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

Anti-Bolshevik propaganda in general is pretty metal.

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Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

From what I've read on my own, it appeared that at first Communists were quite friendly with jews, thinking they were to set up a Socialist state. However, they got out-kikes as the state ended up not being socialist, and jew resentment grew.
rbth.com/history/327040-ussr-and-israel-from-friends-to-foes
mosaicmagazine.com/response/israel-zionism/2017/11/communism-zionism-and-the-jews-a-brief-romance/

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

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Asher Evans
Asher Evans

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Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

I can't handle the truth
Thanks for summing up leftypol in one statement. You seem angered by the way, stay off the internet, that'll help ya.

Jacob Green
Jacob Green

Don't your findings support his claims though?

Ayden Lopez
Ayden Lopez

The USSR thought they could use Israel against their primary enemy for a while but as soon as Israel started working with the capitalist states, the alliance fell apart. How does that support your claim at all?

Jayden Cox
Jayden Cox

Yeah. If it's the truth, it's the truth, I'm going to try and fight it.
How does it support my claim?
Claim:
Jews control both sides.
Support:
Jews had control, until the public eyes was shown the truth
Today?
The CPUSA, while having some worldwide connections back in the day, seems to be a bit too jews friendly.

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

I'm not going to try and fight it.

had to fix that

Luke White
Luke White

Jews control both sides.
From your own article:
starting in the early 1950s and until the Cold War’s end, the USSR supported the Arabs in their conflict with Israel.
Good job controlling both sides lmao.
The CPUSA, while having some worldwide connections back in the day, seems to be a bit too jews friendly.
They supported fucking Hillary Clinton, it's been FBI spying on FBI since McCarthy.

You have literally zero arguments.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

Just refer here. desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/
Communism can't be "Jewish" anyway since that would mean that pre-civilizational societies are all "Jewish".

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

Honesty question: why are you all getting so engaged with a troll to this extent? Just post the standard rebuffs to any real questions and ignore the rest.

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

The USSR and Israel
Explained here

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

oh it goes much further than that, do you remember the bible? jews wrote that. They've been pulling the strings for thousands of years. I'm like neo matrix but instead of killing my dog they took my foreskin.

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

What's the problem with engaging with nazis? It's not like I have anything better to spend my time on.

Ethan Howard
Ethan Howard

getting involved with the alt-right movement in the first place

oversleeping

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Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

responding to a troll but whatever
Leftypol has more in common with the 'alt right' than it does with anti-racist liberals
You spent a couple months in a fucking discord server stop acting like you're some sort of former ebil nazchtzee. You're merely a trend hopper who never actually had a real worldview
an organization for helping white supremacists
Lmao orgs like this and 'hope after hate' spend thousands of dollars doxing and harassing teenagers for being edgy online.
He was never a 'nazi' even if he's not outright trolling
Pol has been getting an influx of these "former x" threads and they're just a really stale form of neolib propagandizing

Cameron Ross
Cameron Ross

He was never a 'nazi' even if he's not outright trolling
So what's a real nazi then?
Pol has been getting an influx of these "former x" threads and they're just a really stale form of neolib propagandizing
Or people are realizing that it's a fucking retarded cult and want out?

Grayson Wilson
Grayson Wilson

Pol has been getting an influx of these "former x" threads and they're just a really stale form of neolib propagandizing
What, like "I used to be a leftist but now I'm a fascist"?

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

There are tons of threads in both directions and it's disorienting how it came out of nowhere. It's very strange.
Bruh some dude being on an edgelord teenager right wing discord gamer circle is far from a 'cult'
You're sounding like a twitter harpie rn

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

You're right, more gulags instead, because killing people in revolutions = progress

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

I just want to grill for God's sake!

Colton Sanchez
Colton Sanchez

This guy has the right idea, minus the 12 hours sleep part.

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

12 hours is a bit overkill but I agree with the test of what you said

Camden King
Camden King

What the fuck is this thread?

Owen Moore
Owen Moore

10000 trillion billion dead in gulags XD checkmade gommies

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

Detox. I went through something similar in high school; I had been posting on 4chan since 6th grade so, as you can imagine, my worldview was pretty warped. I posted on /pol/, parroted white supremacist dog whistles, made jokes about the Holocausr, etc. It wasn't until around Junior year (around the time of Trump's election) that I began to really understand how flawed my viewpoint was.
I began exposing myself to more left-wing material: Marx, Kropotkin, Vox videos, CNN, basically any any all of the content and ideas I had eschewed from the real of serious discussion back when I got all my opinions from the alt-right approved canon. All of that information helped me figure out my stance on the world, but for me the most impactful and important part to reintegrating into society was direct dialog with the people around me.
Listening to my friends who were trans, black, foreign-born, disabled, etc. really helped me visualize, contextualize, and understand the issues I had been consuming all this content on at a direct humanitarian angle. I was able to see past ideology and understand, fundamentally, where they were coming from as human beings.
So, OP, my advice would be, first, to detox. Get the fuck off of /pol/, those Discord servers, Nazi Twitter, or wherever it is that helped your alt-right beliefs propogate. Second, you need to hear firsthand about the experiences of the people affected by your ideology, or by the system as a whole.
Last, I'd be remiss in neglecting the economic factor on Zig Forums of all places. If you need a target for blind rage that's deserving, let it be the corporations, CEOs, and corrupt officials that keep this capitalist machine alive and turn us against each other in the first place. After you've recovered and come to terms with who you were and what you did, aim your anger and vengeance at the forces that drove you to do it in the first place that weren't your own
Godspeed, user.

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Chase Russell
Chase Russell

Yeh it’s more like boy scouts for people who weren’t quite fucked in the head enough to become a school shooter so they live vicariously like a little bitch. Oh muh ancesotrs did some stuff so I am cool too

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

This is a false flag

Nolan Bennett
Nolan Bennett

Probably once the realized Trump was the bigggest kike ever

Carter Long
Carter Long

back to /pol/ retardo

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

I psychologically tortured myself in accordance to my societal programming after gaining more knowledge
I wanted to stop this torture and fit into with the rest of the sheep
I exposed myself to more indoctrination in order to rid myself of wrong think

Just lol

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

being opposed to the whole foundation of current society is being a sheep

makes perfect sense. racism is what's for sheeple.

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Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

It's amazing that you faggots still believe you are some kind of new counter culture and how everyone is out to get you.

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

and that's a strawman hattrick!

Kayden Cook
Kayden Cook

Speaking of a warped mindset

Liam Barnes
Liam Barnes

Vox videos, CNN,
all this content on at a direct humanitarian
Really user

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Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

Never said I fully supported all the ideas I gave credence to. My point is, trying to transition toward left-wing thought required a broad assessment. In other words, I couldn't really appreciate what the commies were trying to offer without first understanding more mainstream liberal viewpoints.
I still watch Vox videos though, their liberal biases are obxious but a lot of their content is very well-researched and I'd much rather see YT push their stuff over Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, and JBP ad infinitum.

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

Maybe get offline for a bit you spastic.

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

Hontrapoints made me realize that autistic upper middle class white guys larping as women are the most oppressed minority on the planet

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

Is this a parody post? The dude blamed Spyro the Dragon for radicalizing him, he claimed to be a hwwite nat but never mentioned the jews, and told people to subscribe to PewdiePie.

Benjamin Sullivan
Benjamin Sullivan

I'm considering phoning ExitUSA which is an organization for helping white supremacists
Lol cuck

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

hurr durr christchurch shoota wuz a left eco-socialist he sed so in his manyfestoo

Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

At least you recognize that there is a problem with capitalism and that the problem has to do with the wealth hoarders. Now you just have to acknowledge that it's not one race of people behind it all, but capitalists.

David Cox
David Cox

the guy was fucking insane, nothing he wrote should be taken seriously

Jose Fisher
Jose Fisher

classic leftypol. posters here love taking baits, its kind of debate training
also as poltard are very retarded, the ownage of these trolls is pretty fun and might convince any neutral bystanders.

Bentley King
Bentley King

or, you know, cherry pick the 90 page manifesto for pro-"leftist" statements when it was 100% /pol/ trolling

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

yo, that dumb shit passes on lib boards, people here know your "haha it was just a joke" playbook

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

Vox videos
CNN
""detox""
<the mouthpieces of corporate neoliberal capitalism are what inspired me to fight against le alt right
This is going to be my new favorite copypasta. Imagine believing this catlady fanfiction.

The truth is, anybody who stokes muh alt-right boogeyman was never alt right and has no idea what they're like. It's a complete mess of internet outcasts/larpers not some ominous spooky creature like the hacker known as 4chon.

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Austin Cox
Austin Cox

The truth is, anybody who stokes muh alt-right boogeyman was never alt right and has no idea what they're like. It's a complete mess of internet outcasts/larpers not some ominous spooky creature like the hacker known as 4chon.
There are basically the equivalent of skinhead thugs in the mix who are dangerous recruiter types involved in IRL groups. I thought those guys would be in a different category from the shut-in nerds but they love their memes too.

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

From my experience with local skinhead groups. Most of their members leave after a year or two (once they're out of secondary school). The ones that remain can be dangerous but it's usually just a few guys each generation.
Not sure if that's the situation in Burgerland though.

Nathan Sanchez
Nathan Sanchez

Pretty much the same, but coming across them they're pretty much all poltards. There was the "what about the memes" guy who was ridiculed here a year and a half ago as some nerd but he had a criminal record and spent some time in state prison, and was cliqued up with a gang that largely got destroyed by the cops after that Charlottesville rally.

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

Lee ebil porky chasing workers on migrants maymay

Fasicsm hasnt received corporate support since 1945 in the west, your mindset is stuck in the 1850s

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

They are largely complete morons though. There's an idea that fascism is some kind of coherent doctrine but there's not much there under the surface, no great works of theory; just some race-war novels and Hitler's interminable autobiography. It's kind of like pornography. And despite their pretensions to being MASTERS OF THE AESTHETIC or whatever, their culture is mass-produced garbage memes with no individuality. It's the point at which the alienated man under capitalism is consumed by ideology-as-commodity; this makes it not much different from liberalism really and it operates within the same basic coordinates. This is also why it comes in and out of "fashion" very quickly.
Read Blackshirts & Reds. Fascism has never really been as distinct from corporate America as either ruling-class Americans or fascists want to believe or understand. It has been necessary to obfuscate this difference so generations can be raised to believe asinine shit like "fascism is when the government infringes on free speech" or "when people do violent things for political ends." This is while the U.S. military tolerated cross burnings on bases in Vietnam during a war to protect U.S. business interests against communists while branding itself "as the country which saved the world from fascism." A lot of those returning soldiers didn't go back to Mississippi but got jobs in the LAPD and then deployed – with brand-new equipment – to keep the inner city destabilized after the feds destroyed collective action groups like the Black Panthers.

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Carter Cooper
Carter Cooper

There was the "what about the memes" guy who was ridiculed here a year and a half ago as some nerd but he had a criminal record and spent some time in state prison, and was cliqued up with a gang that largely got destroyed by the cops after that Charlottesville rally.
he got arrested for shooting at protesters
any of these morons can kill, no matter how ridiculous they seem

Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown

it's an information war too, comrade. mock mock mock, make them look absurd and silly, it boosts morale on our side and acts as a smear on theirs.

Landon King
Landon King

I guess Cesar Chavez was a Fascist reactionary according to you then because he saw the threat of capitalists importing cheap labor and fought against it.
Just shut the fuck up radlib you don't know what you're even talking about
this.

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Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Yeah, same here. Getting disillusioned with all of it. I got cancer, so kind of an awakening to the bullshit darwinian view I had lmao, and to all the dickheads on the right who believe I should die

Robert Allen
Robert Allen

Cesar Chavez was a retard subhuman brown beret. Chicanoism is a lie and the vol is extremely asshurt. Fuck you white faggot vol.

David Parker
David Parker

Cesar Chavez was a piece of shit brown beret and chicanoism is a complete fabrication by California liberal faggots.

Gabriel Gomez
Gabriel Gomez

Hypothetical situation: 100 people kill (directly and indirectly) 1,000,000 people every year. Is it morally wrong to kill those 100 people to save the 1,000,000? Isn't the immoral act actually to sit back and allow the 1,000,000 to be killed?

Matthew Parker
Matthew Parker

Guy in that photo getting punched is literally an antifa taking the punch to create the image of "muh ebil nazis" Guy in profile looks like baked alaska

Hudson Morgan
Hudson Morgan

Source? Also kind of missing the point, the image isn't what the discussion is about.

Cooper Myers
Cooper Myers

Sorry the source is my memory of when it came out, but sideburns was in some kind of article about antifa, and he was in an antifa clan pow wow, with some other bigger antifa names.

And he's wearing swastikas?? Have you ever seen him again?? A guy on the far right willing to take punches and wear swastikas and nobody knows him??? Nobody on the right ever heard of him??

(because he's antifa creating a photo op for Daily Mail) There was a big article on this in the jew rag daily mail, very effective at making the right look like nazis don't you think??

And why is baked alaska dressed AS antifa, very odd/.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

very effective at making the right look like nazis don't you think??
The current right is made up of a mix of MAGA Neocons and fascists/neo-fascists. Out of the two, the only ones who are in any way slightly consequential to anything are the fascists because the MAGApedes are just autisitc conservative liberals. At least fascists in their own autistic worldview see something wrong with the system itself, even if it's a perverted misinterpretation of it. MAGApedes are just conservative liberals who doomed to fate of all liberals.

Austin Smith
Austin Smith

That bullshit doesn't work on us, man.

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

the funniest part of this shitty b8 is that most people would be totally fine with all of those things, you're just so fucked up mentally you assume everybody else is as hateful as you when it comes to adoption, trans people, the splc, etc

Robert Ross
Robert Ross

Sorry the source is my memory

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Caleb Long
Caleb Long

our government
nice try, mossad

Justin James
Justin James

Fake and gay.

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Zachary White
Zachary White

OP is a lying faggot.

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Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

Oh shit I honestly didn't realize I hit this thread twice with gay porn.