Can I be a leftist while not being a Marxist?

Basically that, I agree with a lot of his views and critiques I fully agree with but others that I don't. If I'm being honest with myself I don't think I could ever identify as a Marxist. Inb4 Asserism

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Considering it is only with a marxist lens you can manage a socialist country i would say that's pretty fucked up bro.

Do you stand for abolition of private property?

yes

Then you are a leftist.

You will have difficulty explaining how it will be done or what the future will look like, but having shit theory and shit praxis won't stop you from being left-wing. Just ask anarchists. :^)

what did ya,ll think of the joker trailer?

Looked more interesting than just another super hero movie, but I'm sure they will fuck it up.

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yes, but you'd be a shitty leftist.

Have you actually read enough Marx to properly reject his theory? That's the first question you need to ask yourself. Are there communists who have never read Marx? Sure, but they are usually better off reading it.

Yes. Anarchists are an example of this. Marxism is the shit though so you should read some anyway.

Cringe. What exactly is the point of more "realistic" capeshit?

Marx didn't know much about non-Abrahamic religions. Buddhism is quite left in its focus on eliminating your greed and sharing material things with each other. (Of course, some countries developed rich clerical institutions instead of developing these ideas.)


Buddhism also rejects the notions of a soul or a creator god that rules the universe.

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Dalai Lama is a leader of one sect of one branch of Buddhism. Just sayin' because westerners frequently assume he's a Buddhist Pope or something.

Still, his quote:

Is it possible to be both Socialist and adhere to a religion?
Yes, of course, moralists scream!
Well, your religious morals are inherently built on capitalist subordination, nay, I'll say say enslavement, to some imaginary figure, effectively making you capitalist in all production if you accept "God" and "perfection" instead of ones role in a system!

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Ah, it's a video. Yes, he said he's Marxist many times.

Unfortunately, Buddhism is easy to twist into "you are living in shit because you deserve it according to your past karma". Akchually, nobody "deserves" their karma – it's a problem that have to be solved both personally and collectively, out of compassion.

the joker has been mythologised into pop culture so a realistic style is supposed to give the platform of the character "dignity". Also, it will be another movie celebrating mentall illness and alienation. Pure escapist ideology.

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All suffering comes from attachment

Buddhism has no "god" or "perfection", the goal is liberation. The teachings in Pali Canon is about not being a slave to your own desires or fears, behaving skillfully (ethically) and developing limitless compassion.

Buddha also was strong opponent of castes and DESTROYED brahmin caste supremacists with FACTS and LOGIC on record:
tricycle.org/trikedaily/buddha-talks-brahmin-supremacist/

anarkiddies are spooked by "dictatorship" of the proletariat

"I'm a Marxist" - Dalai Lama
He's also part of a priest class that sucks out a lot of value from the economy to build fancy buildings and wear fancy clothes.

And the whole reincarnation thing is along the same lines as protestant work ethic. "Work hard, be good, follow rules, stay in your lane. Your next life won't suck so much."

Don't forget that there are more Buddhist branches other than feudal Tibetan Buddhism. Can't say for Mahayana but there are lineages in Theravada that are extremely ascetic: the monks often live for months in a forest and have no other possessions than a bowl and a robe.

There's no "work hard" idea whatsoever, Buddha never spoke about it. "Stay in your lane" is also not a Buddhist notion, the guy literally went against castes as per the link I posted above. He also was a class traitor who left his aristocratic family and lived all his remaining life as an ascetic. He spoke a lot how you are conditioned by your past and present circumstances, including economic ones.

Is it something bad? Nobody says "be obedient to the capital."

The "rules" are the five percepts: don't kill, steal, lie, take intoxicants, have illicit sex (nothing about homosexuality, only adultery and rape). Other Buddha's teachings go along the lines of being an ethical and compassionate person to avoid creating unnecessary suffering for yourself and others. For example, this includes not owning slaves or trading them which is quite progressive for 450BC.

There's no reincarnation in Buddhism because you have to have a soul to "incarnate". It's called rebirth and having _any_ kind of rebirth is undesirable, including rebirth in heavenly worlds – you'd be better by ending all suffering (Nibbana).

I agree that the priest class that arose along the popularity of Buddhism is harmful to the society but it's harmful to the teachings too because they got skewed for the ruling class' goals. If you check the early teachings, you'll see that there are not many contradictions between being a good Buddhist and a good socialist. Yes, the Buddhist and Marxist goals and world views are different (Buddhism is not materialistic after all) but you don't need to do mental gymnastics to follow both.

isn't the goal of socialism to improve people's conditions? I was under the impression that there wasn't anything wrong with wanting to seize the means of production and reclaim the rightful fruits of your labor. All I see from the story of Siddartha Guatama is some Trustafarian sitting under a tree and telling a bunch of malnourished feudal peasants covered in donkey shit that they should stop desiring things that any functioning human should want. As marxists, shouldn't the point be to challenge the structures that exploit people and get them to realize the power they wield as workers, instead of telling them to stick their fingers in their ears and deny their own humanity as "unclean" or greedy, while the rulers of the land eat food that you grew and bang two whores at once with money they took from you?

Buddha never said "everybody join me", he gave advice on skillful living (basically, ethics and Buddhist psychology) to family people with big households and even kings.

This period was significantly less trashy than today's India. Think Ancient Greece but at the modern Nepal's border. I was amazed by the complexity of the culture described in Pali Canon.

No problem with this if you are not a monk because they aren't supposed to engage in social conflicts directly (you can be a lay Buddhist). Though killing the owners of these structures would go against the five precepts.

But overall Buddhism is not submissive: it's not suggesting to become a doormat for everybody. You still can defend yourself or go against the power, the idea is to create the least possible amount of suffering whatever you do.

Nothing "unclean" here but greed is indeed a problem for humankind, otherwise capitalism wouldn't be so bad. Buddha suggested the Middle Way: not denying everything but not wanting more than you need to live a basic life and support your path to liberation.

TL;DR: being Buddhist prevents you from being a good revolutionary but doesn't transform you into a doormat either.

thanks for the effortpost

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