Notre Dame

Luke Carter
Luke Carter

Is this a psyop that is somehow gonna be used to quell the Yellow Vests like that shooting a few months ago probably was or is it just preservationists fucking up? I want to not get cucked by my paranoia again but I mean, it is really weird Macron was gonna give his national address today and instead this happens

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youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7yaR-2s6g
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nytimes.com/2019/04/17/nyregion/st-patricks-cathedral-arrest.html?
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Elijah Green
Elijah Green

This happens all the time in the US. It is really unfortunate but I bet it was a bunch of dumbfuck massively underpaid proles who forgot to turn their heater off.

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

everything is a conspiracy.

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Most likely an incident due to electricity. Unsafe electrical circuitry can trigger simultaneous multiple fire starts.

Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

cultural revolution NOW!

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

There's so far no official suspicions that the fire was intentional, so I'd say it's probably a real accident (and a tragedy). If suspcicions arise that it was intentional, then I'll go with Macrons conspiracy 100%.

Julian Cooper
Julian Cooper

varg did it

Or muslims

Ayden Murphy
Ayden Murphy

Even if it's a complete accident, Macron will attempt to use it against the yellow vests.

Andrew Kelly
Andrew Kelly

The interior seems to be actually alright.

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Nathaniel Martinez
Nathaniel Martinez

like that shooting a few months ago probably was
The what now?

Daniel Ortiz
Daniel Ortiz

this reasonable guy with the tommy robinson pfp has some ideas

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Luis Clark
Luis Clark

It's the cultural marxists' doing for sure. They're destroying the world one landmark at a time. Today it's Notre Dame, tomorrow it will be The Statue of Liberty… Mark my words.

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

You really gonna pretend you don't know who was behind it?

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Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

this was before the whole ceiling collapsed

everything but the stone art is gone

Julian Foster
Julian Foster

This. Once I have finished my arts and culture degree I will go out and destroy all art and culture.

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

atheists?

Aiden Morris
Aiden Morris

Is this a psyop
Nah just the natural conclusion of your dumbass right-wing ideology.

Brody Lopez
Brody Lopez

It was a right wing cumskin though.

Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

You really gonna pretend you don't know who was behind it?
Yeah it was a right wing white guy?

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

idpol is bad
<yo fuk whitey and fuk his buildins n shieeet

Gabriel Phillips
Gabriel Phillips

wow a picture of a middle eastern guy laughing.
this really shows us how da joos and muzlimz are destroying west christianity

Jackson Cox
Jackson Cox

yo fuk whitey and fuk his buildins n shieeet
Who said this?

Jackson Kelly
Jackson Kelly

yo fuk whitey and fuk his buildins n shieeet

Who said this?
this guy

Landon Cooper
Landon Cooper

I'm not a right winger comrade just a paranoid lefty. Psyops were originally created as part of the red scare

nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/france-strasbourg-shooting.html

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

All this speculation it was a Muslim.
Get triggered when reports are emerging that it was a cumskin right winger.
You mutts are going totally nuts!

Matthew Scott
Matthew Scott

wow a picture of a middle eastern guy laughing.
Yes, laughing at the fire.

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Owen Bennett
Owen Bennett

and synagogues

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Cameron Perez
Cameron Perez

The cumskin next to him is smiling too. This was definitely a right winger attack on the church. The church was attacked a right wing cumskin a few years back, establishing a clear pattern.

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Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

both smiling guys look cool and cute

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

It's funny how /pol/ used to be hardcore antiwar and anti-zionist despite being on the Right and were rather indifferent to Muslims and all it took to get them to start blaming Muslims rather than Jews for all their problems anf support endless war in the middle east was a bunch of "nationalists" funded by Israel to do so

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

He doesn't even look muslim/arabic. He's probably a Spaniard at best.

Levi Brown
Levi Brown

The Pinault family, one of the biggest porky family of France, has promised to give 100,000,000€ to rebuild Notre-Dame.
liberation.fr/depeches/2019/04/16/la-famille-pinault-debloque-100m-euros-pour-notre-dame-de-paris_1721606
Nice marketing campaign.

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

No he didn't, dumb cumskin.

James Carter
James Carter

So what is the consensus on the right nowadays
Is Christianity a sandnigger jewish religion that should be removed from the west, or something that needs to be protected?
It feels like they're constantly changing their views on this.

Benjamin Martinez
Benjamin Martinez

They change their views,on everything depending on what their respective big daddies (all funded by Israel btw) say
See

Kayden James
Kayden James

after millions of muds were brought to /pol/land, /pol/acks began to hate the muds who didn't bother them before
Truly a mystery, someone should call Agatha Christie.

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Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

both, at the same time.
right-wingers suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

Jews control the entire world
therefore Jews are responsible for bringing millions of muds to Europe and coordinating all these terrorist attacks
which is why why should continue to support the politicians funded by Jews when they how to keep pursuing policies that created the refugee crisis in the first place

Really makes me think lad

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

Press S to spit

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

Since when? Macron for instance had the vote of the center-right and left but not of the people on the right who don't like invaders.

Christopher Smith
Christopher Smith

invaders?

Blake Ward
Blake Ward

Are you trying to say that rightwingers supported Macron?
Isn't their special epic punk rocker Marine Le Pen pro Isreal, but gets support because MUH MUDS
Or gypsies like Orba getting support even though he supports the Jews as well?

Leo Foster
Leo Foster

Orban*

Ryder Thomas
Ryder Thomas

Some on the right, sure. Left/right is a shit terminology so right groups together banker lovers (who'd prefer Macron) and kike gassers, while left groups together hippies and advocates of free gulags for everyone.

Ethan Miller
Ethan Miller

Trump is pro Israel
Bolsanaro is pro Israel
Le Pen is pro Israel
Orban is pro Israel
UKIP is pro Israel
Ukranianian neo Nazis literally funded directly by cia
Venezuelan opposition repeatedly displayed itself as pro Israel
Nearly every right wing talking head with any degree of influence on social media tied to Israel

Yeah dude it's all a big meme

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Nicholas Foster
Nicholas Foster

Left/right is a shit terminology so right groups together banker lovers (who'd prefer Macron) and kike gassers, while left groups together hippies and advocates of free gulags for everyone.

WE ARE ALL ONE RACE

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

700 years of war, sieges and revolution
I sleep
exposed wires
real shit?

Nolan Cox
Nolan Cox

Person having an astonished smiling "oh shit" face is actually cheering for the fire in question
I don't have enough fingers on my hand to count the amount of Zoomers I've seen pull out their phones when we arrive on scene to a fire or crash and smile while saying things like "oh crap" or "holy shit" while getting all giddy like. Partially I can understand it, different people react differently to large events. Some are shocked, while others get amped up or excited over it.
after millions of muds were brought to /pol/land, /pol/acks began to hate the muds who didn't bother them before
<West destabilizes and invades multiple middle eastern regions
<People move out of those regions en mass to safer, more secure countries which are significantly more financially stable
<"Wtf, why are you here bothering us?!?!

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

The thread is about France so I assumed you meant Macron, not Trump, Bolsonaro or Le Pen who wasn't even elected in the first place. I agree they're jew lovers, if they weren't they wouldn't have been elected in the first place, still they're the best we can get for now, just like you have to make do with Maduro instead of Lenin.

Alexander Richardson
Alexander Richardson

The white one looks like egoraptor

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

<"Wtf, why are you here bothering us?!?!
Why they do it is no secret, it's to bring the whole world under islam. Just because you understand it doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

Jaxson Jackson
Jaxson Jackson

I agree they're jew lovers but I'm gonna vote for them anyway
Truly cucked.
maduro
Kept out Israel

Ryan Reed
Ryan Reed

You faggots constantly pretend to be smart and to see through Jewish tricks, yet you will still support them because "they're the best we have"
It really makes me think.

Hudson Peterson
Hudson Peterson

what level of woke are you on

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Thomas Collins
Thomas Collins

So did whoever it was before Chavez and the guy before him and so on.

Christopher Martin
Christopher Martin

so did whoever was before Chavez
Is that,why they used economic and foreign policy that was more in line with the jews who cooked up neoliberalism and neoconservarism respectively? And so does the opposition which contains many of those same people from pre Chavez times?

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

look man I'm cool with Jews running the world for a little while longer cuz they're at least persecuting Muslims which the very webm I posted at the beginning of this exchange implies have more in common with me than Jews do
/pol/ has really gotten retarded under Trump

Blake Adams
Blake Adams

Not true.

William Martin
William Martin

just like you have to make do with Maduro instead of Lenin
Maduro is already 10 times better then all the right-wing politicians you mentioned combined just on the basis that he is engaging in a struggle against imperialists attempting to engage in regime change in the country while also personally supporting anti-imperialist struggles abroad.
Why they do it is no secret, it's to bring the whole world under islam. Just because you understand it doesn't mean you have to agree with it.
<People move in masses because of western regime change and destabilization as well as western support for countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia which further antagonize the regions around them
<"The reason they moved was to bring Islam"
Yes, I suppose that's why were seeing so much mass immigration from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Iran

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

pseud level 9000

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

arson was ruled out I think

Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

sure, that's what /they/ want you to think

Nicholas Johnson
Nicholas Johnson

because of western regime change and destabilization
Nigger they're coming from stable countries. Even the media stopped the whole muh rapefugees façade a long time ago.
Saudi Arabia
They may foot the bill for terror, but they don't do the dying part. They must give their brothers some role to play in the holy war after all.

Ryder Brown
Ryder Brown

they may foot the bill for terror
Which is why you're gonna keep supporting politicians who defend them right?

Jordan Reyes
Jordan Reyes

youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7yaR-2s6g

Your appointment to ICE should be finalized within the week, I've already discussed the matter with the senator.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Lots of blacks.

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Justin Turner
Justin Turner

If voting every couple years is supporting them, sure. Same thing you do, we just prefer to be ruled over by different assholes.

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

I'm far more interested in a cultural/critical reading of the event than its cause. This is gonna have some serious cultural impact for the time to come, have no doubt about it. Is there no greater allegory for our times than the destruction of supposedly timeless things, with us gawking and powerless to stop, let alone understand it?

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

There's no fucking way this historically rich Church coincidentally burned down right before Easter weekend.

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Tyler Nguyen
Tyler Nguyen

bruh, this so complex, i wonder what it means
Some Muslims burned down European culture, it's pretty straight forward.

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

And lots of whites, I'm sure. But the point was he tried to put this on us here on leftypol.
Just for future reference, no one here gives a flying fuck what kind of tweets you can find, they aren't substitutes for arguments or statistics. Dumb is everywhere.

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

Wrong it was a cumskin.

Jaxson Diaz
Jaxson Diaz

look man I'm cool with Jews running the world for a little while longer cuz they're at least persecuting Muslims which the very webm I posted at the beginning of this exchange implies have more in common with me than Jews do
This is unironically a Mossad tactic and its why they fund and support far-right groups worldwide. The far-right works on knee-jerk reaction, so when mass immigration occurs they don't focus on the actions of Israel or other destabilizing forces which may cause it immediately (although they may pay lip service to it), they focus on the immigration and immigrants themselves. Its a self-perpetuating cycle. Destabilization or collapse occurs, which causes mass immigration, which causes the right to shift focus on the immigration itself, which creates breathing room for the government and Israel to engage in further imperialism for their benefit, which creates more mass immigration.
Nigger they're coming from stable countries. Even the media stopped the whole muh rapefugees façade a long time ago.
Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq are stable
lol no
They may foot the bill for terror, but they don't do the dying part. They must give their brothers some role to play in the holy war after all.
Saudi Arabia is Suuni controlled and the groups they back mostly target Shiite's. Why would Saudi Arabia want Shitte's to "take over the west" for them when doing so would be completely antithetical.

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Jason Miller
Jason Miller

I don't vote faggot.

Also
if I do the wrong thing it's fine as long as everyone else, even people I claim to be morally superior to, also do it
Great defense

Colton Bell
Colton Bell

the opinions and beliefs of the masses are irrelevant and do not represent real feelings that will lead to real actions
It takes an educated man to be this particular type of stupid.

Evan Myers
Evan Myers

We don't know who burnt it down. It could likely be a government false flag or possibly right wing terrorists trying to set up leftists or muslims.

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

the opinions and beliefs of the masses
Cherry picked tweets are "the masses" now? Fucking lol.

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

cherry picked
Yeah, sure. Go ahead and pretend there aren't endless posts on every social media platform from black and arabs laughing about this. The real problem with everyone on Zig Forums is that you all already have your beliefs and no amount of real world information will change them.

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

Implying any twitter radlib will ever do anything politically relevant ever besides making two-sentence remarks on everything in hopes of getting retweeted
I'm honestly shocked that you believe any majority on these platforms will be relevant ever.

David Murphy
David Murphy

Yeah, sure. Go ahead and pretend there aren't endless posts on every social media platform from black and arabs laughing about this.
Source

The real problem with everyone on Zig Forums is that you all already have your beliefs and no amount of real world information will change them.
Yeah dude that is why we are the ones saying Jews and Muslims scretely control the world at the same time despite being more opposed to each other than ever

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

It's hardly wrong, last time I checked someone will still get elected whether I personally vote or not, it isn't like they'd throw the whole thing away if I abstain.

Chase Sullivan
Chase Sullivan

With millions of blacks on twitter, any opinion espoused by a group of blacks would look like 'the masses' to a dumb right winger.
The real problem with everyone on Zig Forums is that you all already have your beliefs and no amount of real world information will change them.
Projection.

Brandon Williams
Brandon Williams

it's fine if I rape a dead body cuz some other necrophile would eventually

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

source
He just said it.

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Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

You can't rape a dead body. Dead chicks in fact love it as they never say no.

Logan Richardson
Logan Richardson

This is unironically a Mossad tactic and its why they fund and support far-right groups worldwide.
You have the right mindset, but are overthinking it. /pol/ is mostly populated by angry American young adults that are attracted to far right politics because they are edgy and contrarian. Their board culture ultimately boils down to a constant race to be the bigger edgy contrarian than everyone else. Logical contradictions in their apparent consensus are not contradictions to them because logical coherence is not their goal–on /pol/, edginess is truth.
They have not slowly become Zionists as much as these contradictions have become more apparent over time: when being pro-Israel is the contrarian stance, they will take it. It does not matter to them that they are essentially pursuing doublethink. All that matters is that somewhere, a liberal is offended.

James Stewart
James Stewart

a little over a thousand laugh reacts on one video
Islam (/ˈɪslɑːm/) is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion teaching that there is only one God (Arabic: Allah), and that Muhammad is the messenger of God. It is the world's second-largest religion with over 1.8 billion followers or 24% of the world's population, most commonly known as Muslims.

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Caleb Young
Caleb Young

based mudslimes

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

Allah is the same god as the one in the bible, Mohammed is also no more important as Jesus in Islam, his message is simply the final testament of the lord.

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

My point was that a thousand out of a billion is a tiny drop in the bucket

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

endless posts on every social media platform
I'm sure you can find plenty given that hashtags and search options exist and you can compile a bunch of random ass tweets together to make a point. Habitual twitter users are inconsequential, the whole concept of twitter is to retardedly post ridiculous "woke" takes to get retweets and likes. You're basically going into a retard chamber which lets you filter for specific retards and coming out exclaiming "Look at all these retards!".

Samuel Sullivan
Samuel Sullivan

i understand, i just like to flex my theological knowledge.

Brayden Baker
Brayden Baker

Statistics don't matter. To a nazi, it goes one-two-many.

Nathan Rivera
Nathan Rivera

asks for social media posts
complains he's given social media posts and not a compilation of the thoughts of every muslim on Earth
If Mohamad isn't more important than Jesus how come only Mohamad was allowed to have anal with lolis?

Brandon Lewis
Brandon Lewis

virgin jewsus vs chad Mohammed

Nicholas Howard
Nicholas Howard

There's hundreds millions of people who use social media faggot. If the best you can cough up put of that is a thousand of people with Arabic names (don't even know if they're all Muslims even) and not even 10,000 or even 5,000 where the fuck is the crisis?

Juan Russell
Juan Russell

Jesus wouldn't have considered it that big a deal tbh. Lots of labour went into it's construction and maintenance, years of planning and design and the incalculable care and reverence for the work in and of it self, but at the end of the day, yeah, it's just a building.

Jeremiah Howard
Jeremiah Howard

well, actually…. 👀👀

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Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

Yes, such obvious Muslims like Jimmy Mendez, Keira Dea, L'homme De T, Bethie Casty, Julien Richard, Jimmy Ponchant, Sara Ch, Luisa DiDio, Seb Spirale, Christophe Carayol, Dome Pasquarie, Carole Binary, Tom Bienstman, Bob Lux, Marco Taccoli, Cong Tan Con Tan, Luke Kalder Unsafe, Matthieu Saisset, Ben Ben, Koki La Brune, Monia Falcinelli, Angelique Covain, Daniele Zenetti, Karine Algoet, Alexis Audebourg, Josaine Ricard, Fred Lucette, Dadi Cataloni, Arthur Borderieux, Alexandra Amouchal…

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

this is dedication to stopping zionist scapegoating.

Isaac Baker
Isaac Baker

Dude, those aren't American names, wtf. Clearly they are muslims.

John Walker
John Walker

My money is on trolls that torched it, or maybe some retard hunchback that tried fucking an oil lamp.

I love this song more today. youtube.com/watch?v=iMQyT95hI8U

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Logan Perez
Logan Perez

Trump is helping me fight iillegal immigration to defend my culture.
/pol/ is the ill formed offspring of feeble minds. The Jews are dumping millions into deflecting your attention to illegal immigration while Zion Don collects shekels to open up the U.S. Treasury to Israel and promise military support. Keep paying them lip service and believing Muslims are the priority you fucking suckers.

Gavin Murphy
Gavin Murphy

Not pointing fingers, but the Church itself ran out of money for the renovations, had to borrow money from the French Government, and nobody knows yet but they suspect they ran out of that money too a days before the fire. And the statues and artifacts were are conveniently moved for one reason or another. Again, not calling names but I don't like the Pope's hat and my local priest gives me weird looks sometimes. Also the Church is the biggest landowner in the world and fuck them they didn't run out of money.

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Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

95% of statistics neonazis use in an imageboard argument are made up on the spot.

Aaron Thomas
Aaron Thomas

Exactly, only complete and utter retards go viral on Twitter. If you're not willing to tweet retarded takes then you will never break 600 followers and 100 retweets. Fuck Twitter. I only go on there to harass retards.

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

And cue the next 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧edgiest🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 guy

Oh you googled fake quotes? Wow me with your internet prowess

Mason Ross
Mason Ross

fuck the church
exactly

Wyatt Russell
Wyatt Russell

Shut the fuck up AIPAC, and go back to your Zionist friends in /pol/.

Luke Morris
Luke Morris

this
As much as i hate macron and the french gov, they are not to be blamed.
The catholic church has more than enough money to pay for the maitenance of their cathedrals.

Leo Nguyen
Leo Nguyen

Arsonist has been caught on vydeo

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Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

Imagine being this spooked.
Yuh-yeah, dude I’m gonna put my j down to stop laughing at retards online to go join my jew nigger cuck fest on /pol/. Exactly my plan for the evening.

At this point I think we can make a motion to interchange redpilled with spooked. Thoughts? All for say aye

Colton Wilson
Colton Wilson

omg!!!

Gavin Evans
Gavin Evans

someone points out the undeniable ties to the Right from AIPAC
SPOOKED

How the mighty have fallen

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

Why does anyone give a shit? This is such a big news item today, it is all over the internet. I can get it if some academics, or some people that like to read history, or some religious people cared. But I don't understand all the average people like "oh my god thought and prayers ;_;". It's just an old building that was an orphaned troll's house in a disney cartoon.

Austin Moore
Austin Moore

most people are NPCs. they will care about anything if you give it enough attention.

Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

WHAT IN OBLIVION IS THAT?!

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

hating your won people
destroying your own country
sucking dick

Why do cumskins do this?

Brandon Thomas
Brandon Thomas

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Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

Yeah,dude why would anyone give a fuck if the white house burned down haha,stupid fucking npcs

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

Considering the yellow vest movement has continued with support and solidarity the fire at the Notre Dame might be the fire at Reichstag moment. I find it funny that a sizable number of posters dismissed a conspiracy and false flag. Yet the fire at the Reichstag was the conspiracy of the time. Some of you here behoves you to understand that the days of Ba'athism like Nasser have at best being suspended as the Imperialists from the USA to Israel had toppled those governments. Christians are not exactly welcomed and treated in very reactionary ways such as vandalism to places of worship. I really doubt that it would be "just a building" if it was the Blue Mosque and pray tell the sympathy if it was a mosque and the apathy for a Church.

Back on point, naturally the radical wahhabist indoctrinated Arabs post ba'athism would be pleased at the event and in country with a high percentage of Sunni muslims, among the highest in Europe, it would be concerning. The bourgeois had been more than happy to bargain with Wahhabist states like Saudi Arabia for deals and accepting large numbers of illegal immigrants as well as building mosques was part of the deal making. Notwithstanding the attempts to undermine domestic labour, a feudal caste system to separate the pure bloods as well as diefying them and a wasteland around Israel as to not challenge it.

Nevertheless I do reckon that /they/ would try to frame the yellow vests for the fire at the Notre Dame so the yellow vests could do with some help to clear their names.

Henry Parker
Henry Parker

these are things which do not concern the lives of the alienated suburban proletariat, they are media inventions, moron.

Wyatt Jenkins
Wyatt Jenkins

unironically caring about the white house
lol

Jeremiah Richardson
Jeremiah Richardson

Celebrating is still caring.

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

2864879
Hating your own people
What a gigantic fucking ghost story. Personally, I don't have a people based on skin color and culture. That's for fucking stupid people who don't know how to accomplish goals to take pride.
Destroying your own country
The white nationalists are unironically taking a sledgehammer to their country, and wholesaling their white children's future to porky in exchange for porky to trigger libs, give lip service to immigration and patreon funding.
Sucking dick
Ethnonationalist fascists are by and large closer have a super large closeted homosexual membership. Read more Wilhelm Reich The Psychological of Fascism
Why do cumskins do this
Oh ebic trolling pedo. Shouldn't you be recruiting fat incel zoomers?

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Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

Anything like this is big news because we as a civilization seem incapable of producing such structures anymore. Why build to last a millennia when you can overcharge to build to last 3 decades and then build it again?

Any great monument is a symbol of mans battle against entropy, and losing one always has an effect on the collective psyche.

Carter Davis
Carter Davis

Negative, that part of the ceiling did not collapse.

Cameron Morgan
Cameron Morgan

That’d be pretty cool though. Notre Dame burning down just gets a shrug from me. It’s a tourist attraction. Then again, I guess it is cool that the Catholic Church is losing its property.

Nathan Young
Nathan Young

bruh, y deez crackas upset, itz jus a building
Zig Forums proving once again that they fundamentally incapable of understanding Europeans

Benjamin Ross
Benjamin Ross

Lol yeah sure, the sclerotic culture of white peepo makes them frantic when something burns down because they feel like their best days are always behind them.

Austin Gomez
Austin Gomez

t. liberal

Joshua Brown
Joshua Brown

Listen here punk, if you call me the L word one more time I’ll continue to provide (you)’s

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Luke Howard
Luke Howard

It's brilliant exhanges like this that keep me coming back to this board.

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

But the whole building was just one big monument to kikes. This is what the buildings dedicated to European gods looks like today. Where were all the kike lovers when these buildings fell down?

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Christopher Bennett
Christopher Bennett

Where were all the kike lovers when these buildings fell down?
You do realise that the vast majority of the restorations of these kinds of buildings are being done by Christians. Also Jews have been known for refusing Christ so the kike arguement is invalid.

Evan Wright
Evan Wright

t. liberal with a gansta phase
NWA done it better

Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

You do realise that the vast majority of the restorations of these kinds of buildings are being done by Christians.
But how were they allowed to fall down in the first place? If the kike religion never took over Europe than those buildings would still be standing today.

Also Jews have been known for refusing Christ so the kike arguement is invalid.
But Jesus and his disciples were still kikes so your argument is invalid. Christians are just a type of kike, just like today there are reformist kikes and orthodox kikes.

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Wyatt Barnes
Wyatt Barnes

reformist kikes and orthodox kikes.
And reformist kikes and orthodox kikes don't like each other if that wasn't clear enough for you.
Also Jews have been known for refusing Christ so the kike arguement is invalid.
Orthodox kikes "refuse" reformist kikes.

Caleb Reed
Caleb Reed

Yes, the colosseum was built for Jews. Like for throwing them in against lions.

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

Yes, the colosseum was built for Jews. Like for throwing them in against lions.
As well as Christkikes. THAT'S European heritage.

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William Wood
William Wood

But how were they allowed to fall down in the first place? If the kike religion never took over Europe than those buildings would still be standing today.
Like the stone cities of Mycenae and Knossos which were ruins thousands of years before Christianity? Pagans were too keen to destroy Christian places of worship.
It wasnt too long ago that ISIS had destroyed the monuments at Palmyra. What was too long ago were the crusaders looting Constantinople and Agia Sophia.
But Jesus and his disciples were still kikes so your argument is invalid. Christians are just a type of kike, just like today there are reformist kikes and orthodox kikes.
Kikes that wrote in Koine Greek? Goncern

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

probably this.
Also, this building is nearly 1000 years old.
It's amazing something like this hasn't happened yet.

Matthew Bennett
Matthew Bennett

what is confirmation bias
I see plenty of stupid posts from polyps
Maybe we need to genocide them

William Green
William Green

It wasnt too long ago that ISIS had destroyed the monuments at Palmyra.
You mean Islamokikes? My point exactly. Now you see what happened to the places of TRUE European tradition. This is what kike ideology always does, destroy the local tradition and replace it with kikery.
What was too long ago were the crusaders looting Constantinople and Agia Sophia.
After their minds were taken over by the kike-mind virus. Just like all the brainwashed Europeans crying over this kike monument today.
Kikes that wrote in Koine Greek? Goncern
What are you talking about? The real Greeks were the enemies of the kikes.

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Isaiah Wilson
Isaiah Wilson

Literally nothing about Jews had anything to do with the state of those dilapidated buildings. Before, Jews caught on they were the scapegoat for right wing agendas. The road Hitler took was paved by the Catholic Church. They were a convenient distraction from the plundering of a nations wealth by aristocrats who were like better them than me. Somewhere along the way a couple Jews became a powerful force of global pork. So in the 21st century these wealthy ambitious Jews realized they could fund right-wing neonazi groups across the globe from Ukraine to America, and get them to work in Israel's best interest by pushing them to target illegal immigrants as opposed to Jews. This both distracted the neo-nazis from seeking material salvation and political power reforms, and convinced them to embrace Zionist anti-immigrant candidates who were in their pocket. Now the entirety of the right wing neo-nazi agenda works in Israel's favor i.e. Based Jews and Zion Don are pwning the shitskins ebic style… I don't mind they are Zionists controlling the narrative because I'll convince myself it's them destroying each other as opposed to the reality that it's a lop-sided battle.

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Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

Those faceless sock accounts that could be run by anyone is making you believe the Arabs and Blacks are laughing? Amazing that /pol/ continues to soften on Israel, because Mossad astroturfs for Zion Don. Those faceless sock accounts are probably run by Mossad.

Jayden Walker
Jayden Walker

the electricity was shut off specifically to avoid any fire hazard from it.

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

they already did it once, in the 'french' revolution, they cut the heads off the statues and put a prostitute on the altar to worship her.

Evan Parker
Evan Parker

You mean Islamokikes?
Funded by Saudi Arabia, Gulf States, NATO and Israel whereas today European heritage buildings have been protected and restored by Christians for the past 200 years at least.
What was too long ago were the crusaders looting Constantinople and Agia Sophia.
Unironically implying that Constantinople and Agia Sophia were not Christian…….
What are you talking about? The real Greeks were the enemies of the kikes.
Ask any kike and they would tell you that Jesus was not their Saviour. Kikes had killed the prophets of God more than just once and their "messiah" is a stark contrast to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ who wrote and spoke Koine Greek and Aramaic, not Hebrew.

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

After their minds were taken over by the kike-mind virus. Just like all the brainwashed Europeans crying over this kike monument today.
Unironically implying that Constantinople and Agia Sophia were not Christian…….

Carson Bell
Carson Bell

faceless
That you can attempt to lie with the evidence a few posts above your own shows what kind of freak you are.

Mason Price
Mason Price

I don't know about the rest, but Parthenon: io9.gizmodo.com/the-jerks-who-bombed-the-parthenon-5951994
As the Venetians surrounded the Acropolis, the Turks took shelter on the hill. Strategically, they hid their gunpowder within the Parthenon, believing the Venetian forces would not dare attack the Parthenon due to the historic significance of the building.
This would prove to be a bad strategic choice.
Morosini knew of a concentration of Turk forces at the Parthenon, but it is unknown if he knew of the explosives held inside the historic building.
Armed with knowledge of the Parthenon as a pivotal battle site, Francesco Morosini ordered subordinate Antonio Mutoni, head of the mortar brigade, to target the Parthenon.
After three days of shelling, a mortar struck to Parthenon and detonated the gunpowder on September 26, 1687. It is unknown if Mutino himself let loose the fateful bomb or if a nameless soldier made the "lucky" strike.
At the very least, the responsibility for the damage done to the Parthenon weighs heavily on the deceased shoulders of Morosini, Mutino, and the Turk leaders who made the strategic decision to conceal explosive materials in a historic spot.

It's not Christianity, Islam or any fucking religion, but the "barbarian" mindset of the west, who only see the selfish individual but not the value of collective. Even the Turks knew that despite the pagan origin, Parthenon was a holy site and to do harm to it would be unthinkable in any cultured mind. But the "conquistador" mindset of the westerners, who only want to loot, pillage and rape don't fucking care about culture at all. They did this to Andalusia, to Constantinopolis, to the Parthenon, to the whole continent of America, to the Summer Palace in Beijing, etc. They, indeed, were the incarnation of capitalism in its finest form.

Justin Brown
Justin Brown

I agree

over 800 some odd churches have been set fire and defaced all over France, and the crown jewel burns during holy week.

yeah, nothing to see here folks

twitter.com/PardesSeleh/status/1117851308457725952

Juan Morris
Juan Morris

newsweek.com/spate-attacks-catholic-churches-france-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

the "barbarian" mindset of the west
But its okay for China to occupy and destroy native cultures in Taiwan, Vietnam and pre-Kanji Japan as well as making Korea into a vassal state. In present times using their populace (visa workers, investors and students) as useful idiots to flood North America for the Chinese Bourgeois and try to create parallel societies (applicants must speak Mandarin, 20 people in one house, $5 p/h pay and profiling only Chinese). The redeeming factor is that all East Asian nations have only unflattering sentiments for China as China clings on to an "Asian" identity which is nothing but a claim on all East Asian countries as Chinese.

Cameron Sanders
Cameron Sanders

The real Greeks were the enemies of the kikes.
Kek. Polfags are basically the chan version of those teenage girls on Twitter who use Harry Potter as their model of political analysis. Only with /pol/ it's more Lord of the rings or Skyrim.

Matthew Morales
Matthew Morales

Haha nique les curés

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

Two middle eastern guys going under some tape smiling while moving towards a camera with no context
Some dark Spanish looking teen is smiling while videoing the fire right next to a white person smiling as well.
This isn't proof user. Also, as I said here I can't really prod at the teens for having such reactions given that I get the same feeling of excitement responding to fire and crash scenes. The way they react with their phones is stupid though, but you can see that type of mentality in the twitter video here . Now if you can show me a mass of middle eastern immigrants cheering in the public square over the church burning down it would probably be a different story, but I'm not really seeing that. If anything, there are a bunch of dark/tanned skinned middle eastern looking people mixed in that are not smiling, like the one near the pole with his phone.

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

Why didn't God put out the fire?

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

because its a test of our worthiness. life is like one big gauntlet of tragic events to see if you keep enough faith to be worthy enough to suck his dick at the end.

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

S

Brody Clark
Brody Clark

kek

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

Can we all just focus on the fact that a near priceless cultural monument is basically gone now?

Sebastian Harris
Sebastian Harris

we're better than /pol/, they say DA JOOs did everything lmao
IT WAS THE RIGHT WING NUTTERS THEY DO EVERYTHIIING

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Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

Am I supposed to care about white male Catholic "culture" after all they've done? Rofl

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

priceless
cultural
monument
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Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

Its not gone. The part that was under construction/repair is however damaged though, which just means that now they'll have to actually do the repairs rather then put them indefinitely on hold like they were doing before.
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Evan Butler
Evan Butler

I don’t get it, are you people for real? It’s not like the Library of Alexandria burned down. The church is still sitting there, the roof is just gone. It’s not even as broken as the Colloseum.

And furthermore it’s just a fucking tourist attraction. It’s a monument to the power of the Catholic Church. You can find academic, amateur and professional photos of large scale of every inch of it. We know the thing inside and out, you could walk through it for hundreds of years and you will still be able to in a couple of years. The random people acting like they’re devastated by this is like some of the most inane snowflake shit I’ve ever been unable to understand. I get /pol/ crying because they get emotional about everything that is “muh white culture”, even if they aren’t actually Christian. To them their family photo album caught on fire, or at least the book they’ve had it in for 20 years just get water damage and the photos are on fine. But it’s just performative wailing about the death of civilization or whatever. For Christians it’s a big symbol or whatever, they cry at Christian rock concerts about gods presence or some shit. Everybody else I don’t get it, just go to Disneyland instead. You can spend a week in the louvre, chill out.

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Elijah Brooks
Elijah Brooks

You realize notre dame was considered anti Semitic

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

That is a hard pill to swallow.

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

if somebody burned it down on purpose it's basically low level terrorism, and the response to that is: rebuild the it as display of defiance, maybe add a fire-suppression system that is less destructive to art.

If it was an accident, well it's the same really, rebuild the thing and add a fire suppression system that is less destructive to art, but this time regard it as a lesson learned about storing irreplaceable artefacts.

Angel Harris
Angel Harris

This is probably a cover-up for something bigger that the caps want to quickly sweep under the carpet without anyone noticing. And this whole fuss for one building and whether it was a nazi, a muslim or the French government who set it on fire is very undialectical.

Easton Smith
Easton Smith

B-b-but Paul Joseph Watsom f-found faceless Twitter sock accounts laughing about it and s-saying Allah did it to p-punish white Christian men for stopping Iran from destroying Israel.

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

*a 3C to 5C temperature rise in the Arctic by 2050, possibly 9C by 2080
Still. Not great.

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

There are Serbs right now making posts that it's God punishing the French for bombing Serbia

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

lol ok al gore

Asher Barnes
Asher Barnes

unenvironment.org/news-and-stories/press-release/temperature-rise-locked-coming-decades-arctic

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

nsidc.org/news/inthenews/arctic-ice-cap-grows-same-year-al-gore-predicted-it-would-disappear-networks-ignore

Leo Gomez
Leo Gomez

Those UN estimates I linked to were not cooked up by Al Gore, you moron.

Liam Hernandez
Liam Hernandez

prove this is a bad thing

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1118136587248861184

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Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Praise Allah! I am a Muslim Communist Serb! This is the white Christian man's punishment for bombing Serbia, and for trying to save Israel from Iran! May Mohammad's blessings pour onto Iran and Serbia, and shaitans fire scourge the white man's Churches in France and the United States.

Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

Source? Not doubting, just would like to see them.

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Logan Harris
Logan Harris

I don't give a damn about it being a symbol of religion, that's horse-shit. The real loss of the Notre-Dame is as an incredible work of art and architecture that has stood the test of time, only to be sabotaged because Macron's a cunt… just another reason he deserves to be removed from office.

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

Close, it happened on the same day Russell Greer released his latest song so I think it's God punishing the human race in general for that.

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

Macron probably did Notre Dame.

Dylan Ramirez
Dylan Ramirez

Except Israel is not what caused the whole mess in Syria, it was caused by water crisis caused by Turkey. Also Russia puts their money in Israel, which then uses them. The reason for the MUH SOROS is because Soros hates Putin and Israel.

Julian Gutierrez
Julian Gutierrez

I can't search through Facebook right now
But here's a picture one of the "major" news in Serbia posted, it came with an article they quickly took down.
It says
"(Photo) God's punishment caught up to them!
Six months ago the French have hanged the flag of the fake country of Kosovo in the cathedral of Notre Dam. NOW IT'S BEING DESTROYED BY A FIRE INFERNO!"
They also released another picture, but for the life of me I can't find it which says "The only reason it didn't BURN to the ground is because the cathedral rang it's bells over the Serbian victory at Kosovo in 1389."

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Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

Here's a serb right here praising Allah on this thread for the Notre Dame fire. They're everywhere on social media.. Using accounts with stock photo profile pictures praising Iran and wanting to destroy the white man and israel and sheeit!

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

Honestly, I'm just upset I don't get to see the art and architecture of the building itself.

Brody Perry
Brody Perry

Already Macron and other French politicians are using this to push for unity and trying to ignore the ongoing political crisis. I can see this event being used to quell opposition and to try to distract the workers by using a national tradegy.
Bread and circuses. The spectacle is real.
La spectacle est vrai.

Gavin Perez
Gavin Perez

I agree with this, but even more disappointed by the fact that the renovations and repairs were pushed forward this long. I doubt France lacks the resources to have completed the repairs on time.

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

What IVPITER was supposed to announce yesterday if not for the fire at Notre Dame:
Macron will ask french people to work more, either by reducing the number of public holiday, augment the legal standard working hours in a week or augment the Retirement age.
twitter.com/Brevesdepresse/status/1118119152668106752
The literal MADLAD!

Liam Carter
Liam Carter

He is right though. Everyone is trying to attach their personal agenda with the fire.

Carson Brooks
Carson Brooks

this is Macron's solution to the Yellow Vests
Lol is Macron literally fucking autistic?

Zachary Green
Zachary Green

So I told Macron to push more austerity in the face of protests against austerity.
He actually did it, the absolute madman!

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Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

It makes more sense to think he's really a socialist and that this is the way he'll achieve it, since even if he was an outspoken one he would get shut down, but in revolution the bourgs have less control.

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Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

McRon is only setting the stage.

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Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

Life Is Strange: Triomphe de l'anarchie

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Bentley Morgan
Bentley Morgan

This guy is such a fucking revisionist grifter. Why is it that western "leftists" only care about marxism when it's applied to pop culture?

Zachary Clark
Zachary Clark

You "leftists" actually care about bourgeois architecture?

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

A gothic medieval cathedral
<Bourgeois

Zachary Kelly
Zachary Kelly

Whatever, who gives a fuck about france? Country still collects post-colonial debt from impoverished countries.

Hunter Carter
Hunter Carter

Sperg harder, Turd-worldist.

John Ortiz
John Ortiz

Better than being a western """""""""""""""""""""leftist""""""""""""""""""""""" cum-filled, lifestylist faggot.

Bentley Sanchez
Bentley Sanchez

Lefties like architecture a lot more than right wingers. It's the product of labor. Right wingers tend to blow up architecture.. like the Reichstag, federal builiding, etc.

Charles Hill
Charles Hill

This guy in particular I think defines himself as whatever is hated by people he hates, so he became a "c u l t u r a l m a r x i s t"

Using a situation to your advantage doesn't make it a fucking commodity. The commodity produced by social media is the data being gathered, and their engagement with the content is the "labor" that creates that data.

Eli Morales
Eli Morales

This. But the subversive astroturfing bots are out in force trying to make leftists look bad. Almost like it was planned.

Nathan Rodriguez
Nathan Rodriguez

Capitalism is a product of human labor, should leftists "care" for it?

Jose Gray
Jose Gray

3rd world internationalism isn't socialism, and the Western lifestylists aren't affiliated with any socialist party. Go guzzle more porky cum if you're going to buy into his propaganda. You make socialism look way worse than the pussy hat wearing idpol activists with Che shirts do

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

Capitalism is the exploitation of human labour whith an exigency for social disease to survive you boot licking cum guzzling porky whore.

Adrian Barnes
Adrian Barnes

Why the fuck are you calling me a boot licker? Wtf. The fact is that capitalism wouldn't exist without labor just as Notre Dame woudln't.

Existing socialism has only happened in the third/"second" world you dumb hipster retard.

Luke Torres
Luke Torres

First world leftism isn't filled to the brim with revisionists, trots, demsocs and other petty-booj hobbyists

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Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

Rightards are blaming "muh bolsheviks" in the comments of a clown world edit. HONK HONK

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

Forgot pix.

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Justin Cook
Justin Cook

Why the fuck are you calling me a boot licker?

Because you are coyly rearguarding leftists. "Herp a derp leftists actually like architecture". Ya, they do and appreciate making it as accomplishment of organized labor.

3rd worldists are the real socialists
I have yet to meet a 3rd worldist who doesn't LARP. Most of them want non interventionism through destroying the material conditions of 1st world proles. Socialists want non interventionism with material salvation and social of their neighbors.

Ian Ward
Ian Ward

Your 3rd world LARP is strong. 3rd worldism reminds me of white people who are ashamed to be white. They are unironically idpol that makes leftism look worse than revisionists, trots or demsocs.

Hudson Gray
Hudson Gray

tfw you are so historically ignorant that you blame dead Russians for setting fire to a French cathedral in 2019

Jayden Reyes
Jayden Reyes

It's funny how /pol/ used to be hardcore antiwar and anti-zionist despite being on the Right and were rather indifferent to Muslims and all it took to get them to start blaming Muslims rather than Jews for all their problems anf support endless war in the middle east was a bunch of "nationalists" funded by Israel to do so
Yeah one of the (many) problems with fascism is that it's superficial and has no coherent doctrine – its own entropy means its followers and self-professed ideologues end up doing the bidding of somebody else.
It feels like they're constantly changing their views on this.
Notre Dame was originally built as a house of faith and a symbol of the reigning power and ideology of its time, but that collapsed and God is dead (in the Nietzschean sense where religious identification diminishes in modernity), so for most of "the West" the church is now just a watered-down symbol of "culture" or "Western civilization." The right's identification with Notre Dame is an edgier version of a tourist brouchure – its threadbare. They can blame foreigners whenever something bad happens, or spread memes showing a badass knight with a cool sword (Deus Vult) but that won't put more butts in the pews, and it's in any case a fact that most of the priests at these churches these days come from Uganda and Vietnam – and most of the people in the pews are old immigrant ladies. It is the case that historically the Catholic Church spread itself via wooing and co-opting others rather than coercion, although of course coercion has been involved.

This Stonetoss comic is amazing glimpse at the right because it uintentionally shows Satan whispering in his ear and preying on his human frailty as he stares at the fire from afar, rather than witnessing the truth of Christ's suffering on the cross which remains standing within the ruins. A culture of surface appearances (swapping out hats as Stonetoss does) are a great deception, as the faith teaches – like a raging fire, once it is over, only ashes remain. And Christ cares not for borders, and loves us all because we are all God's children, including him.

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Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

Did I state that leftists shouldn't like any architecture? No, my contention was with bourgeois architecture and property that was renovated through the plunder of colonies or domestic labor, such as Notre Dame.

Anthony Reed
Anthony Reed

No, my contention was with bourgeois architecture and property that was renovated through the plunder of colonies or domestic labor, such as Notre Dame.
Tbh, this isn't a very good reason to hate something, especially when that something came into existence during a time when that was how a large number of Western economics operated. Such reasoning comes off as moralist and tries to apply current standards to those years ago.

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

Notre Dame is just another sign of the decline of France a country that has lost its way cant protect is borders its people or its buildings the sad truth france is dying.

Kevin Cook
Kevin Cook

Basically folks need Jesus.

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Easton Johnson
Easton Johnson

varg did it
anprim gang rise up

Eli Rogers
Eli Rogers

And "it looks nice" isn't a very good reason to support the maintaining of something.

Connor Taylor
Connor Taylor

It is preservationist fucking up but any news story can be and will be hijacked for political agendas anyway.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

When it comes to buildings, it literally fucking is you dumb shit.

Noah Gomez
Noah Gomez

I mean, hes not wrong. If you are on the communist left in India you may be part of an actual armed insurgency, its not a place bitchy hobbiest

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

Yes for bourgeois minded folk like yourself. Notre Dame serves no purpose for the proletariat. And before we get bogged down, Function =/= aesthetics. If a place of work is run down and filthy, it is not the same as a useless monument having its paint peel off.

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

Bourgeois
Stop using the word, that isn't what it fucking means. Purpose over meaning is literally a bourgeois mindset: it's rampant consumerism at its peak. We should knock down Notre Dame and building a shopping centre look how many JHABS it will recreate.
Think about it you daft shit.

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

Sounds like you're anti-materialist. Function/Purpose under communism means something VASTLY different to what it does under capitalism. Meaning is idealist by its very definition.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

Function vs Aesthetic/Meaning fallacy
Stop this already.

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

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Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

When I said you I thought leftists didn't like bourgeoisie architecture I meant architecture that was renovated through capitalism (I'm a lefty 3rd worldist remember)
That's literally all standing architecture. Maybe to a 3rd worldist wants to destroy everything that was developed through murderous exploitation, but since that's literally every property in the world the socialists will aim to keep national treasures like Saint Basil's cathedral around.

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

The chairman of Pinault Collection now wants a tax cut amounting to 90% of their donation for Notre-Dame. Really makes you 🤔.

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Carson Ward
Carson Ward

The CEO of Pinault Collection also wants a tax cut amounting to 90% of their donation for Notre-Dame. Really makes you 🤔.

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William Torres
William Torres

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Aiden Roberts
Aiden Roberts

Just give the 10% you're actually willing to give in the first place, ffs.

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

Christianity: A Retrospective.

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

Even better, Kering which is property of the Pinault Family has avoided paying, since 2002 both in Italy and France, 2.5 billions € of tax through tax avoidance schemes. So those 100.000.000€ aren't even 5% of that amount.
source: twitter.com/Brevesdepresse/status/1118261584671985664

Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

Sorry for the bad translations. Thought you might want to see some public opinion.

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Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

real question is why do westtards use wood for building when stone exists?
this shit has only like a one or two good things compared to stone which a lot better in every aspect. enjoy fixing that shit every 5 years and living in paranoia of it burning down or getting eaten by bugs. lol.

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Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

It's easy to merely say that capitalists are alienated by capital as well and are subservient to it. But one must witness it to understand the full truth of it.

Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

the Church itself ran out of money for the renovations, had to borrow money from the French Government
That sounds like bullshit since the Vatican doesn't own the cathedral, the French government does.
I don't like the Pope's hat
Fair enough but he still has some wicked hats.
Also the Church is the biggest landowner in the world
No, that's the Queen of England, Canada, Jamaica, etc.

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Oliver Taylor
Oliver Taylor

I'm not a cathedral architect but I think it's easier to design a large building that can use support beams made of wood than stone. With stone you'd need columns everywhere to support the much heavier roof. Remember other materials like steel beams weren't commonplace in the 12th century, plus not melting with jet fuel wasn't much of an advantage then.

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Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

Using a situation to your advantage doesn't make it a fucking commodity

I think he meant social commodity/capital ie doing it for the (You)s and increased social status. Maybe his usage of words is wrong, but the general idea of 'using recent events to advance your agenda' is happening right now. Everyone is trying to tie this stupid fire to their ideology. It is pure ideology at work.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

Also also, you can't have a pure stone roof with the shape of something like Notre Dame, brick sure but those kind of bricks would not be forged until long after the construction of Notre Dame (which is 12th century BTW, the thing predates the Mongol Invasion for reference). Compare this with renaissance era Italian churches, which did have strone roofs but were domes, not the gothic narrow triangles. Or take Liverpool cathedral, which was finished in the 1970s (yes 1970s) and while does not use wood in its ceilings, does have steel as mentioned.
Also look at the sizes of those buildings, and look at the size of your average cathedral (Notre Dame, York Minster, Cologne): smide of a difference in scale lad.

Still, I'd like to use this to bring-up perhaps the greatest anti-fascist monument in human history: Coventry Cathedral. Destroyed in the blitz, it was deliberately not rebuilt; it's ruins instead preserved as a reminder of the horrors of that war and what it brought. After the war, Britten's war requiem was premiered in the ruins, almost to consecrate the site. It's honestly a rather moving place.

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Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

Why is there a teenage mutant ninja turtle with a Nazi cap crying?

William Hughes
William Hughes

Seriously though, that's the most cancerous thing I've seen in a long time.

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

Communism and Christianity are both cancerous feudalism based on the false doctrine of equality. Communism is just Christianity for atheists.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

Communism and Christianity are both cancerous feudalism based on the false doctrine of equality.
Communists believe in equality
How many times do we have to play this game old man?
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/letters/75_03_18.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

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Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

feudalism
You know this might be the first I've seen someone equating communism to feudalism
So WHAT do you think feudalism was you absolute faggot?

Jackson Nelson
Jackson Nelson

youtu.be/6n_xCI-peq0?t=357

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

youtu.be/6n_xCI-peq0?t=209
Watch the whole video too

Logan Phillips
Logan Phillips

so the prole being covered up in green goop and the anarchist girl standing off with the tanks, what does it mean? the animation is a little yes papa teir tho.

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

It would seem that the bourgs may be awaiting for the Anti-Christ of the Apocalypse, the segments (eg the prole featured in the said video) appear as means to an end. The end being something akin to 1984 with satanic overtones.

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Mason Ross
Mason Ross

Communism is just Christianity for atheists.
The only true way to go to atheism is through Christianity.

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

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Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

i bet its viral marketing for a live action hunchback adaption.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

youtu.be/tABnznhzdIY

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

As a small aside, Baphomet was created by Alphonse Louis Constant (Eliphas Levi), a French neo-Catholic/socialist/occultist/author around 1850. Reading some of his books rn

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

Baphomet was created Louis Constant (Eliphas Levi)
Literally who?
le Sage
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
The name Baphomet appeared in trial transcripts for the Inquisition of the Knights Templar starting in 1307.[1] It first came into popular English usage in the 19th century during debate and speculation on the reasons for the suppression of the Templars.[2]
[1] Michelet, Jules (30 March 1860). "History of France". D. Appleton – via Google Books.
[2] "In the 19th century a fresh impetus was given to the discussion by the publication in 1813 of F. J. M. Raynouard's brilliant defence of the order. The challenge was taken up, among others, by the famous orientalist Friedrich von Hammer-Purgstall, who in 1818 published his Mysterium Baphometis revelatum, an attempt to prove that the Templars followed the doctrines and rites of the Gnostic Ophites, the argument being fortified with reproductions of obscene representations of supposed Gnostic ceremonies and of mystic symbols said to have been found in the Templars' buildings. Wilcke, while rejecting Hammer's main conclusions as unproved, argued in favour of the existence of a secret doctrine based, not on Gnosticism, but on the unitarianism of Islam, of which Baphomet (Mahomet) was the symbol. On the other hand, Wilhelm Havemann (Geschichte des Ausganges des Tempelherrenordens, Stuttgart and Tübingen, 1846) decided in favour of the innocence of the order. This view was also taken by a succession of German scholars, in England by C. G. Addison, and in France by a whole series of conspicuous writers: e.g. Mignet, Guizot, Renan, Lavocat. Others, like Boutaric, while rejecting the charge of heresy, accepted the evidence for the spuitio and the indecent kisses, explaining the former as a formula of forgotten meaning and the latter as a sign of fraternité!" Encyclopædia Britannica, 1911.

Carter Fisher
Carter Fisher

Communism and Christianity are both cancerous feudalism
What does this even mean?

Brayden Young
Brayden Young

extremely anti-semitic medieval france builds cathedral
~20 years later jews are expelled from France
hundreds of years later a zionist midget claims that we need to re-familiarize ourselves with "the philosophy and religious principles that built it."
Hmmmmmm

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Anthony Wood
Anthony Wood

Richard Spencer gives his cry-wank opinion on twatter

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Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

it's just Cherry picking…trust me…every non white this side of the Mississippi cheers whenever white people suffer but who cares…it's not representative of reality at all
I'm really struggling to understand this mentality, especially when the evidence is staring you in the face. what a weird cope you have there. /r/stupidpol posters really go hard with their denialism.

newsflash the various ethnicities of the world genuinely hate each other. your Jewish produced television shows of quirky and racially diverse 20 somethings all getting along in some faggy cosmopolitan city is what is not actually representative of reality.

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

every non white this side of the Mississippi cheers whenever white people suffer but who cares…it's not representative of reality at all
Can you prove this?
newsflash the various ethnicities of the world genuinely hate each other.
I don't doubt certain ethnic groups dislike each other, but its generally dependent on conditions. Both the USSR and Yugoslavia had multiple different ethnic groups within their borders, but ethnic animosity didn't surface between them until after those systems began regressing into full blown capitalism and the material conditions of the countries within them began degrading. Ethnic conflict is generally related to economic instability and material scarcity, with people forming into groups to ensure that some degree of stability and material security can be secured and that blame can be allotted to others.

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

Yugoslavia
The hate came from before, the root cause of the hate between Serbs and Croats came after ww1 when the now independent Croatia wanted to join Serbia in a kingdom together with Slovenia.
Of course there was a minority who was against this and wanted the country to remain independent, but the majority voted for getting into the union.
And that's when the problems began with the Serbian kings being supreme autismo and Serbs having this god complex. That's when the name Yugoslavia first came to be, after the king banned the people from calling themselves Serbs, Croats or Slovens.

But at the same time, while I agree that certain ethnic groups hate each other, over time that vanishes as well. Right now most hate for Croats in Serbia comes from boomers and some millennials that grew up with the hate towards the Croats, and it's a similar situation over there as well. In a generation or two that hate will also vanish unless they make us go to war once again.

Xavier Butler
Xavier Butler

Reminds me of an idea I had for a world where all the ridiculous conspiracy shit is true (evil satanists engage in child sacrifice and want to install a new totalitarian world order and enslave/kill off the human race) and yet still the only people willing and able to stop them are communist and anarchist revolutionaries

Also what the fuck's going on with Paul Ryan's face there

Sebastian Brown
Sebastian Brown

everyone is evil and [people sharing my political viewpoint] are the only ones that care
Sounds horrendously masturbatory.

Aaron Collins
Aaron Collins

Can someone tell me why the church is burning when it is like made up of stones in the first place, and why is it still renovating? Extreme brainlet on this topic tbh

Cameron Rogers
Cameron Rogers

The structure is stone and is mostly intact, but the spire and lead roof was held up by a wooden frame.

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Christopher Gray
Christopher Gray

Notre Dame was burned down by mossad/french clandestine officers in order to demoralize the French people and get revenge on The Yellow Vests. Now everyone in France must murder all the niggers, arabs, rothschilds animalies, and anyone else who gets in the fucking way. Macron will be necklaced by african animals in the end and nobody will help him.

Leo Morris
Leo Morris

Macron will be necklaced by african animals in the end
based

Carson Roberts
Carson Roberts

but the spire and lead roof was held up by a wooden frame
Wait is this coz they are renovating or is it supposed to be like that?

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

That's how it was built.
The exterior scaffolds used for the renovations are steel.

Elijah Myers
Elijah Myers

I honestly feel nothing for that meme of a cathedral. Terrorists blowing up archaeological sites upsets me because there's still shit to discover there, but the Notre Dame de Paris has been thoroughly investigated a million times over. Nothing has been lost except for a dumb tourist attraction.

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

That sounds like a fucking Ken M comment.

Jaxson Lopez
Jaxson Lopez

The real reason Varg moved to France.

Brody Allen
Brody Allen

principles that built it

So mostly masonry and early structural engineering ?

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

CERN ritual
youtu.be/koQZt019P8g?t=271

Justin Kelly
Justin Kelly

watch NGE

the subtext reads as such.

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

I figured it out

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Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

OH SHIT

Brody Jackson
Brody Jackson

The reactionary take on this has been extremely weak. PJW has been working overtime to make it about muslims though. So far it's all about people saying mean things online. /pol/tards are finally embracing the fact that they are basically mirrored versions of the tumblrinas they hate so much. Be sure to save all their cringy memes.

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Kayden Hall
Kayden Hall

They will never accept it though.

William Murphy
William Murphy

The alt-right reaction has been literally Satanic – like in the sense that devout Christians understand – and I'm not even a Christian. It's all about trying to exploit the fire and push people's rage, like that comic of the Nazi frog swapping hats (Satan relies on deception). There's no Christ here.

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

There's nothing wrong with masturbation

Andrew King
Andrew King

Serbs are basically muslims

Xavier Myers
Xavier Myers

And forget that Hitler gave order to raze Paris to the ground

Noah Perry
Noah Perry

Bullshit

Hudson Scott
Hudson Scott

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Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

Nicely done

Isaiah Evans
Isaiah Evans

human sacrifice
to Shiva

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Lincoln Long
Lincoln Long

nytimes.com/2019/04/17/nyregion/st-patricks-cathedral-arrest.html?

Round two was over before it even began

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Angel Richardson
Angel Richardson

Charges were not immediately filed against the man, whose name the police did not release. “He is known to police,” Mr. Miller said, without elaborating.
possible falseflag
wake up sheeple

Parker Lewis
Parker Lewis

Blood for the blood god, clearly boy.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

courrierinternational.com/revue-de-presse/vu-de-chine-notre-dame-une-compassion-geometrie-variable

Landon Baker
Landon Baker

Fucking burger flags hanging outside of a cathedral

Don't let anyone tell your burgers do not literally see their flags, capital, the market, the constitution, etc. as holy things. God is a burger and he likes shopping at Wal-Mart.

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

As always his lack of actual knowledge makes him look like an idiot… too bad few people know actual knowledge and worship this guy. I once asked a MAGA-supporter if they knew who Shapiro was, and he talked about how he was doing good upholding liberty and christian values, and when I pointed out that he was Jewish, the dude didn't believe me until I showed him.

The worst part about his tweet is that the beauty and profundity of Notre-Dame does NOT require the understanding of christianity or the philosophy, in fact, usually that makes it worse because you stop looking at a work of art and start looking at a depiction of politics. I prefer approaching it like a mythology - forget the politics, what's interesting is the story it tells on its own, with the interpretation varying sometimes as you think about it or look at it another way.

Blake Green
Blake Green

All the dumb shit he tweets is just pandering to his army of MAGA chuds, doesn't matter if he is inconsistent or self-contradictory.

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Thomas Thompson
Thomas Thompson

PJW is like every alt-right speaker that spreads buzzwords, misinformation, and hatred against Muslims. Then they all wonder why Christchurch happened, and they all wonder why they're being blamed for it.

"Ok now let's discuss how it was actually a COMMUNIST that shot up the Mosque even though everyone is calling him a Nazi and I'm totally not a Nazi for taking offense to that"

Fuck those people, and fuck PJW for trying to make yet another incident to muh muslimz. I want an uprising to happen in whatever fucking country that bastard lives in so they can put his head on a fucking spike.

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