Aren't you guys essentially just liberals?

Ohhhhhh I love the new filter LOL

Hopefully its one of those genies that twist your wishes. Pow-wow socialism here I come.

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You don't actually believe all that horseshit about one big US military base in Syria right?

Do you? Liberalism is an ideology that starts with the individual's freedom as its central axiom. That's all there is to it. Liberals are people who follow that ideology. They are cancerous retards who follow the words of a bunch of navel-gazing wealthy Anglos from the 18th and 19th centuries who had abstracted themselves so far away from reality that an ideology that denied the basic premise of identity-group relationships being symbiotic escaped their supposed genius.


What you're arguing here is that it does emerge out of a vacuum though. If you're denying a biological element to culture, then that's exactly what you're arguing. That culture is purely environmentally deterministic, which, as anyone who can see even third-generation Maghrebi immigrants in Europe knows, is complete horse shit.


It was certainly far less liberal.

Totality, I think; I’ve only seen one possible exception. I don’t know his heart, but I know he is not himself a reliable advocate of gay rights. I think if you sorted out gay people who think it is alright to be gay from those who are hypocritical about it (which is to say from those who would deepen their closet by punishing others), you would find that the hypocrites were biased towards egalitarianism, while the unhypocritical were absolute.

Although some gay people have a history of error about what promotes egalitarianism, a category into which I myself fall. I used to be more tax averse and more welfare skeptical; I still do think that we need better technology for ideal interventions (cyber limbs for manual laborers to boost their wages!)


The hallmark of fascism is corruption. Integrity prevents great suffering.

I wasn't aware we were just trading anecdotes here.


Most "fascistic" states were and are vastly less corrupt than my liberal democratic one.

Welp looks like we lost the conversation. Last hold we were at is why you think antihomo is a permanent fixture of auth soc. Let me know if you want to explain your views, because right now they're confusing.

I think antihomo is a permanent fixture of any rational society, not just an authoritarian socialist one. Homosexuals are sexual deviants by definition.

What's your evidence for antihomo being rational?

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Gay people are drawn to the physicality of the working man. That means they have a distinct reason to be either directly (where safe) or indirectly (where unsafe) protective of the interests of the working man. For to most classes of people the working man is dourly comical, occasionally unstable, and often revolting, and as such they are unjustly victimized by systems with no acceptance of people who are drawn to caring about ordinary workers.

Such as China, whose worker rights record is an atrocity. Again, repressing gays stabilizes China only because China is fascistic and opposed to egalitarianism.