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It's funny you bring that up - I've been thinking about the the Sol Peis or whatever-the-fuck-her-name-was incident lately, and it seems weird - it makes me wonder if she wasn't set up somehow and the plan was botched when she realized it. What if she was supposed to shoot up a school, or at least get apprehended while trying to? It seems strange that she went so far only to kill herself.

Most big-ass mass shootings are actually carried out by people 21+, and the disarming of legal adults remains at least a little controversial. Details about Sol Pais and her Columbine obsession and bizarre failure seem almost tailor-made to advance the cause.

Oh my God what fag holy shit

Here is his manifesto
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the eternal hibernian strikes again

I mean obviously these people are giant incel losers. But come the fuck on do you have to make it so obvious?

bro i am dying THE LAST OF US ost my god lmao

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Shit bro, I'm getting chills

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧they're among us🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

I don't know what the rest is, Imagine Dragons sucks donkey ass but i won't let you talk shit about the Beach Boys dude.

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Well I don't think I'm going to make much progress convincing you this is wrong on a moral basis, although it is. But what are you really accomplishing anyways? I mean this as sincerely and as objectively as I can possibly make it. On a political basis these shootings – while ultimately small, pathetic and insignificant on a cosmic scale – are a disaster for the far right because it's freaking out the normies, and every shooting generates a bunch of new leftists (although usually of the Bernie variety). I'm basically just saying that most people out there don't like mass murder – including whites – and there is a growing problem here which you could lump under the label of "popular opinion." And I'd say this exactly about leftists if they started doing this too – and they have, historically, and it didn't work.

Like – what do you do? Reading Zig Forums, I can't really discern much of a coherent ideological agenda, theoretical analysis of the world, or a set of demands. What I do see is a mass of delusional horror and hatred for pretty much all of society. Not just blacks, Jews, queers and Mexicans but fat people, skinny people, women, men with soyboy faces, people enjoying themselves, popular entertainment generally, people who whine too much, people who dress like slobs, architecture that doesn't look like medieval Europe!!! Raa!!! Pretty much everything.

Any day now, sure, it'll all collapse (it won't) and a New Order will rise so you can frolic through wheat fields for eternity like Homer in the Land of Chocolate. Nobody can reason with this. At least we communists could come to some arms control agreements with NATO to prevent a nuclear war from blasting us all to smithereens. You should thank your lucky stars.

And seriously I'm saying that hoping for some kind of strategic thinking and planning here is a big ask. Broadly speaking your side can broadly agree on the common degenerate elements that weaken society, but legitimacy for fascists derives solely from the will to dominate and the ability to realize that will; to shape society according to the dictates of the most powerful fascist and his clique. This is distinct from traditional forms of communalistic reactionary ideology which derive legitimacy from higher sources, like divinity. In fascist teleology it is the Great Man who is the sole source of authority.

Appeals to being instruments of national will are merely slop for mindless rubes. Nationalism is not the operative element here. The true fascist only views society as an instrument of self-aggrandizement. It's the ultimate ideology of the Self, which can tolerate no distinction between one's own ideals and the interests of others. That's why in its Ur-form you're all devouring each other, since everyone is jockeying to be Il Duce. It's why wanton murder of civilians is not only accepted, but encouraged and celebrated no matter how futile, pathetic or counter-productive it is. Shooting children, the elderly, etc. – whatever. Fascism can only realize its ultimate form when a great leader ascends from this primordial soup of conflict to guide the national body, and the core essence of fascism is a deep-seeded resentment for anyone who doesn't live the exact way they want them to, and this is further compounded when they themselves can't live in the way that they want. And it's incoherent, but this is because there are as many conceptions of an ideal fascist state as there are fascist themselves.

It's white ISIS. It's a dead end.

Anyways I will take two cheeseburgers with fries please.

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Will porky fuck over the far right if this shit keeps going like they did to the far left back in the 60s?

Funny you say that, because while reading through his manifesto I stumbled upon this hot take.

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at this point it has to be CIA cointelpro shit right. thats the only logical explanation here for why wahabbism emerged, again, in a totally different society

Yes, most likely the extreme bits of it will die of while the remnants will become your stock neocuckservatives (like what happened to Alex Jones). You might see some Trump cultists / qanons for a while, but they will die off too once he gets out of office in 2020 or 2024

its going to be insufferable putting up with all the ex-trump faggots pretending they werent sucking his cock 24/7 until he got cucked out of office by bernard

You know that the guy who created O9A LIKED Wahabbism. And that National Action in UK is literally using the network of a more extreme version of Wahabbism (Salafi movement, it's basically a Communist version of Wahabbism that calls for the entire world to be Islamic) to advance its goals.

When I say Communist version I mean like how we view Communism as inevitable and the whole world will be Communist they view the entire World to be the most extreme version of Sunni Islam.

why are they such corny faggots god damn they really read harry potter and believed it was real

its funny Austria doing prohibition on face veil and they walk away just fine so does poland and romania, and pretty much eastern europe? it's even supported by local muslim organization. so, what stopped UK, really hack, lot of forbidden muslim organization like Muslim brotherhood or Hizb ut tahrir that has forbidden everywhere in muslim world magically can exist in UK somehow.

Why the fuck do these amerimutt polyps always jack of to this band?

I think that's kinda happening. The feds have torn the guts out of a few far-right orgs already.

What happened to the far left in the late 60s is that it got wrapped up in freaking out the "squares" (their slang for normies) through a highly performative and self-expressive kinds of politics. Think '68 and running down the street waving a Viet Cong flag, stunts like levitating the Pentagon, etc. They didn't have much of a strategy except make a big spectacle and hope that would wake up the workers to join them in a revolution to overthrow capitalism. But that didn't work at all, actually, and the more extreme members were pushed – discreetly by the feds – into setting off bombs and robbing banks, which made people HATE the left and set the ball up for Reagan (and Carter as the proto-neoliberal precursor) to destroy the unions and create the shitty supermarket dystopia you live in today, if you're an American.

If you shoved Sam Hyde in a portal that spat him out in the early 1970s, he'd fit right in with a slight adjustment in politics. They even both wrote "subversive" culture-jamming books that are like guides to performative militancy. Naturally a culture like this degrades into sporadic terror.

It's cointelpro shit gone bad. Basically, the alt-right – the guys who would actually mobilize IRL – were operationalized in 2016-2017 as muscle for right-wing speaking events (funded by billionaires) staged in left-wing towns to try and draw out the left. The goal was to use this muscle to then smash the left, with the plan being that the losing side "compacts" politically and radicalizes, as they're more willing to countenance extreme action if they're getting their asses kicked. This makes the left easier to marginalize and control. This basically failed totally in Charlottesville when the Nazis killed a woman on national television and the likely architect of this whole brouhaha, Steve Bannon, was sacked from the White House a few days later.

Now all this cultivated hate has to go somewhere, because again they don't have a coherent ideology other than a resentment and loathing for pretty much everything. This is why they're so easily co-opted; the rank and file don't need to know what's going on as long as the leaders do – and the leaders are almost entirely opportunistic weasels who geek out at having an "inside man" in the government who whispers sweetly into their ears because it makes them feel powerful and special. It's what lets them be the king of their little shitpile. Anyways Bannon has fucked off to Europe and there's probably no longer any plan or direction at this point. The guys who were really responsible have washed their hands of it and don't give a shit. We just have to wait until people get sick of the aftermath, I suppose.

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When I say "they both wrote 'subversive' books" I mean Hyde and Abbie Hoffman (pictured): guru-comedian-prankster of the New Left.

It's funny that you talk about the 60's. Because Tulsi Garbad belongs to the cult that did Summer of Love and is drawing these Alt-Tards similar to how Summer of Love drew the Hippies.

Charlottesville was Rockwell's Hate Bus and ummm there's actually a Jim Jones/ Jonestown group (Rural People's Party which became Atomwaffen) so maybe we're see a repeat of Jonestown.

holy shit, what a goofy looking motherfucker
lmao

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Yo I'm glad you mention that because Tulsi's cult ties is the most under-reported thing about her. Also if you haven't read Nate Thayer's series (I think the first two have come out) about Atomwaffen and its ties to those cult lunatics in South Carolina you should. Also Roo – disastrously – corresponded with those people about 10 years ago when they were all about the Juche. He wrote about it on his blog back when Thayer did the first expose on the RPP but Roo was like "bluhh they aren't Nazis!!!" I mean, they are and they aren't. It was never coherent.

More info on this?
Never heard it before

The guy who founded it talked about how it was a Mind Control OP actually on a Trot site talking about it, and there was Shogun People's Party.

God damnit

Tulsi is in Hare Krishna Movement which did the Summer of Love

Hare Krishna offshoot called the Science of Identity Foundation led by a guru in Hawaii named Chris Butler.

I don't know a whole lot about it but I think that's why she's so squirrely with the politics. Like she presents as this anti-war person but is friends with all these hardcore Zionist lobby people / wants to blow up Iran. She's got dead fish eyes and a very artificial / calculated way of speaking that makes her sound like she's running a computer program (cult programming). I sound like a crazy conspiracy person but honestly I'm pretty sure this is what's going on and we shouldn't let the right monopolize conspiracy stuff in any case.

Watch this for example:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aTChZ_n3yU

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she talks like that because shes from hawaii you nincompoop

What?

A lot of people who aren't from Hawaii don't know about Tulsi and how retarded she and her family are, so this might shed some light on her:

meanwhileinhawaii.org/home/butlersweb

ramaransonvsthecult.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/tulsi-gabbard-cult-born-and-raised/

The basic gist is that she's a member of a local cult. Not just any local cult, but one which has its fingers in many levels of Hawaiian politics. Tulsi, who is not Indian nor a genuine Hindu, was raised alongside many other children in this environment and still maintains her relationship with her "spiritual guru" Chris Butler to this day.

Expect much more of this to emerge as the Primary season continues and people do opposition research on her. Almost all of the damning information connecting her to this cult is public- material which she herself produced and disseminated.

Chris Butler's "Hinduism" is really a cult of personality centered around him, not an authentic part of the Indian syncretic religion. It has some of the trappings of Hinduism (like yoga and chanting, and some of the well-known holidays), but those are merely superficial elements designed to attract burned-out hippies and yuppies. The core of the cult is the worship and aggrandizement of Butler himself.

Hare Krishnas overall are a whole different beast, since there's an international Hare Krishna cult that has connections to an Indian "money baba," but Butler's cult is even excommunicated by those fraudsters. They're the fringe of the fringe.

I can't tell if Hawaiians just sound like they are on drugs, or if she has someone running a script on her hardware telling her what to say.

Daily reminder that this is a shit game. Terrible list tbh

youtu.be/PxXcUNct18Q

Wasn't she just raised by them and isn't a member now?

Hawaii is crazy.

It's home to the Sovereignty Movement that supports the Hawaiian Monarchy, Obama is from there and he knew the guy who made Settlers, and Tulsi belongs to a fringe of the fringe Hindu Cult that has fingers in all levels of government there.

I was going to say, Obama has some of that weird lack of affect in his voice, but hers is turned up to eleven in that speech

rich motherfucking gurus are part and parcel of hinduism, so its not like hes any less legit than the five thousand other masters who say they are krishna in the flesh today. not to be dismissive of hindus generally, but they are literally the most scammy of the major world religions trailed only by chinese folk religions.
at least christian televangelists are legitimate in the sense that its exchanging money for prayers, even if its imaginary it is playing pretend within the structures of capital. some people are entertained or feel better for their dubious, pointless product, like when you spend money on app games.

lot of hippies involved with gurus because of beatles, acid, socialism with jonestown characteristics and the like

I saw a big Sovereignty Movement display right next to a major avenue junction heading right into Honolulu. Big portrait of the ousted emperor. Also a ton of military. Gay bars are full of lesbian sailors. A lot of good Japanese food. It's kind of a natural environment for isolated, syncretic stuff to emerge.

How so?
You mean like the ruling class takes part in cults sometimes like Bohemian grove and all that?

Oh.

While we talking about Hawaii, that Jim Profit Anime poster on this site is from Kailua.

I have a weird theory that Japan's Sengoku period was actually a Confucian eugenics programme designed to turn Japan into a kind of emulation of European warfare, so that it could serve as a shield against the West. One of the problems with believing Western ideas about everyone in Asia hating one another is the fact that they all share a writing system (yes, Korea uses hanja too, shut up) and historical academic/political tradition… one of the cultural centres of which was Pyongyang if you're looking for interesting alternative explanations for why the US was so intent on bombing everything.

Japan is similar culture to Germany so maybe there was something there too.

healthy home schooled nerd with bouffant discovers 4chan, gets pumped with nazi propaganda, doesn't feel good and changes - TERRORISM. Many such cases!

sorry you had to respond to yourself in my absence, I was eating taco bell.
so yeah you've probably heard the whole "Zig Forums is not one person" adage. turns out it's true. I have a certain view and idea that may or may not be reflected in a bunch of other people there.
the idea is pretty much accelerationism, and the reason it would work in Europe is the same reason it can work in the middle east (where terrorist groups like ISIS or the taliban can hold enormous sway): it's home turf.
very basic breakdown is
right wing attack on muslims in europe as revenge against either previous terror attack or xenophobia
muslims retaliate
right wing politicians and media condemn the muslims strongly and rationalize the right wing attacks
left wing politicians and media condemn the right strongly and rationalize the muslim attacks.
here's where things get interesting.
people tend to identify with their cultures, ancestry, history and nations. this being so, who do you think people are going to more PERSISTENTLY defend? the people of their country, culture, etc, or the foreigners?
but that's where you're wrong. identity is not as malleable as that, especially not on the national scale, especially not in Europe. your little rationalization about how this person who looks like a foreigner is ACTUALLY a german, smashes against the visceral intuitive identity people have of "being german."
and so the public picks a side. on one side they have people that look, act, talk, and live like them saying that they're under attack and that anyone who says otherwise is out of touch; on the other they have people that say that these OTHER people that DON'T look, act, talk, or live like them are under attack and that's bad because they're just like them (even though visually, viscerally, they are not).
doesn't take a huge brain to see what happens. cheering for the underdog isn't very sexy when that underdog is killing people that look, act, talk, and live like you do. the people that say you should seem out of touch, and the people that say you shouldn't go "see? we told you they were out of touch. they only care about these people are not like you, that are not YOU like we are. we're you're family. etc."
and then, that public goes to vote.
guess who they vote for: the person saying we need to all get along and has some abstract idea about identity that seems to deny a voters felt experience, or the person saying that that voters felt experience of identity, culture, and country is under attack by these foreigners and their apologists.
I'd imagine you're puzzled about the rise of right wing governments world wide. I'd imagine you've convinced yourself the wave is just about to break, that all of this will vanish magically like a bad dream and our abstractions about identity will come true and the world will be one.
the fact is we're just getting started. the only thing keeping it from going full speed is the absence of a climate of violence that forces the public to pick a side.
all it would take would be an attack maybe every couple of weeks or every month. right wing followed by a muslim retaliation. and then people would go to the polls.
that's the overall political theory behind it. there's all those benefits and then just the basic math (pic related).
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and again, you probably think that people agree with you and would condemn violence in all its forms. and again I would simply tell you that you have not admitted the nature of identity to yourself yet, and that people form an identity based on their culture, ancestry, history, and country, whether you like it or not. I would remind you of all the recent gains by the far right across Europe. and I would promise you that we're just getting started. Just wait til the French elections.
yes, double what they did previous election. with Macron's performance and a climate of violence and carelessness about French and Christian culture who knows, maybe they'll double again to 60%.
yes, except we live in the age of nuclear weapons now, and it would take few penstrokes for a country to put itself under Russia's nuclear umbrella. trigger nuclear war, or let some European country deport its muslim population? tough one.
history moves slowly. it can be easy to become impatient and figure nothing's really happening, and when things are happening it can be hard to predict. the main issue that comes up is one of limiting one's view. you're looking at the coming election. not the two or three afterwards. you're looking at Donald Trump now and grrrrrr what a fascist, completely oblivious of the true reactionary candidate that will be coming in 2028 or 2032.
or maybe I'm wrong, which is possible but I doubt it. because I think we all know that the 90's aren't coming back. I think we all know that things are moving and changing in this world. the morality, the balance of power, everything. we can feel it. things like Trump or Brexit seem like oddities, but taken in context of many other things they make perfect sense and fit a pattern. and that pattern is the collapse of the post war period, and US/Western hegemony and this western supremacist morality of equality along with it. no one is doing anything about the Uighurs in China, or the Rohingya in Myanmar. what makes you think they're going to do ANYTHING about the muslims in Europe?

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the eternal mongrel strikes again, he conveniently left out the jewish and negro blood though

You faggots are still gathering behind Le Pen even though she's a zionist shill?
Honestly the right are just a bunch of cuckolds, you will cry about the jew, talk about killing the jew and yell proudly about it, but then go ahead and support the MOST zionist candidates in every single country.

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I'll never understand why people on anonymous image boards came to care so much for "identity".
You're ideological face fags,

Really makes youeaeue think

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they're zionist cause they have to be at this point.
again it's important not to limit your perspective.
focus could be shifted to the jew very easily, but they're better countered by using the left reactions as said in . my absolute dream would be Israel shows major sack and threatens Europe if they try to do authoritarian skullduggery against the muslims.

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Israeli troops are murdering Palestinian medics and journalists on a daily-weekly basis, what makes you think they will threaten Europe if they act against Muslims?

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All of these things have been destroyed by capitalism a long ass time ago

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An important thing about the Right is that they self-project. So when they say something bad, they are the ones doing it.

virtue signalling to the win the hearts of the left worldwide in an attempt to make them pro-israel. it would be easy honestly. "we suffered the holocaust and never again!!!" Imagine Israel being seen as the "leader of the free world." it's definitely possible.
a weak Europe is also good for Israel as the west is basically the only thing holding their reins from going full greater Israel all over the middle east.

Israel hates every Liberal, Socialist, Communist party in Europe because they are far more against Israel than any Stormfaggot.

It's kinda interesting how that is. I mean, Israel is a Western nation but they hate it so much. So the people who act with FACTS AND LOGIC and hate Muslims despite you know, Left-Wing politics means less because of how the Market works go for the people who wanna leave the EU because they wanna do Human Rights violations or Right-Wing.

Reminds me, I think I've even seen David Duke and Richard Spencer hold up Israel as an example of what they want.

But why would they, what would their point be, you're just doing autistic make wish shit that doesn't really have a chance to happen in the real world.
Do you honestly think they will drop support to one of it's biggest footholds in the middle east, this is honestly on the same level as nazifags saying how the Nazis fought "real" capitalist by exterminating jews, but at the same time leave out situations when they let the actual Rothschild bankers leave, even after capturing them.

It's clever but I think think this is a bit too smart. For one, you are relying on this cycle of tit-for-tat retaliation. But even if you can sustain that (which is no guarantee), it also doesn't necessarily mean you get what you want either: people might just get sick of it. Wars burn people out. Just look at Northern Ireland. More to the point, this is what I think the far right tried to do vis-a-vis the left in the United States, but the left didn't take the bait (at least not to the extent that right wanted). I remember seeing this one guy from a video of Charlottesville – he was probably high on meth – screaming at his enemies like a putz: "shoot! shoot! fire the first shot of the Nazi masturbation fantasy!" But they didn't.
Nah. Trump's agenda is two-fold: screw around with trade enough to cause some slight inflation so his (heavily indebted) base has a few hundred extra bucks to blow on football games because their debt-servicing costs go down a little bit. At the same time, give a massive tax cut to big corporations which they can use to further inflate their stock price by buying back their own shares, further inflating an asset bubble.

That's basically it. That's all that's really there. The rest is just a distraction; we're Marxists here, not liberals.
Sure, the Syrian Civil War going the way it did I think is the punctuation mark for the "tilt" with China and Russia and Iran being able to finally check the U.S. and so on. But you're leaving Russia out of the equation. There are millions of Muslims in the Federation and you know Putin practically sounds like Obama when he talks about Islam. It's "Islam is an integral part of Russian history." Hell, they have state-sponsored mosques.

And China is putting Uighurs in old fashioned communist-style reeducation camps. It's not getting rid of them. This idea that China is this Han supremacist ethnostate is a Western bias because we think Chinese all look the same, but Chinese people don't think that and there are many sub-groups and dialectics and ethnicities. If you ever listen to Xi's speeches or read the party papers they always make a point to stress development directed at / and contributions from China's many minorities.

Face to the harmonious, culturally advanced, peaceful co-existence of the world's peoples and the careful planning and foresight of Xi Dada.

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You're fucking retarded. Read .

they're not down for the count.
like I said, we're just now entering this new era. just like the USSR the entire western structure is going to crack in many fundamental ways. hard to say what will happen, but ethnic, cultural and historical identity is deep deep deep in a person's psyche whether they're aware of it or not. deeper even than ideology.

Right wing terrorists
Left wing terrorists
Really makes yoeueeaux think

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Also we're not fucking liberals, so your stupid "you think Trump's a fascist!" doesn't apply here.

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The guy was a literal mongrel who was homeschooled and got his world view from fuckin Zig Forums
I am not sure if you know this, but most people are not that sheltered, then again, you might be in the same situation as him

This is why you have Neo-Volkish movements. Basically the most bare thing that there is.

I wonder what this guy will think about all this in 50 years, when he's still in prison over memes he read on the Internet

It's LARP. They play with real weapons and conscript other people into the game from time to time, but politically it's LARP. Of all the right-wing reactionaries, the only ones I've got some grudging respect for are trad Caths because they have some cool saints and a lot of doctrine and astronomy and at least some regard for rationality, and they explain the world in a better way than rubbing herbs together and waving axes around. The rise of Christianity and other monotheistic religions served as a fundamental break and development in human thought which is why polytheistic, pagan barbarism is for nerds and scam artists.

But even the trad Caths are often at odds with their adopted faith community because they show up and see a bunch of old Filipino women, a Ugandan priest and a Vietnamese guy who hands him an invitation to spaghetti dinner night. "Woah what's going on haven't you guys seen the memes?"

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a turk shot up a train station like a day after Christchurch and a note was found saying it was in response to it. media covered it up with some story about a personal dispute so as not to trigger further retaliations
I genuinely think western men are bored enough that they'd go for it. A little economic recession would also help and that always seems to be nipping at the heals of the EU in one way or another
Trump's effect was that the right can take its nuts out and win elections. That's pretty much all that needed to happen. the fact that he's APPEARED to follow through on a bunch of stuff is just icing on the cake. Was mexico ever going to pay for a border wall? No. Can we propose shit like border walls and win elections? Fuck yeah. And again, you gotta look down the road to the real reactionary, which seems actually viable now that we at least a little dipped our toe into callousness with Trump; the reactionary will be to the first major progressive candidate that fucks up in some way. A lot of people on the far right are hoping for a kind of balkanization, so who knows. I don't care that much about America's future, just cause Europe is so much more volatile it seems.
Russia wants power in Europe. Period. They don't give a fuck about how it comes about. If they have to support anti-islamic sentiment they absolutely will. They have a history of killing muslims too *cough* CHECHNYA!
Yeah people don't think that's some shrug of the shoulders thing. you ask any normie about it and they're like "oh it's horrible!" Are they gonna do anything about it? Fuck no. Are you? Well you already gave your answer.
Life is suffering. Everything changes. Nothing stays the same. Study buddhadharma and realize there are worlds and dharma-realms where killing is good. You will live to see such a place. Peace is the religion of the privileged. War is the reality of all others.

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Hopefully he'll have found Jesus.

I mean, we don't. He's a liberal, just like every liberal before him.

I honestly think he will suicide.

so is leftypol against Jews or what? not clear where you guys stand.
i hate jews personally.

We're against Zionists

It's always been pretty clear that we hate zionism

So does Obama. It doesn't really mean anything. Chechnya is still Muslim.

yeah he was a retarded larper and cringe ass memelord.
and a horrible shot honestly.
he was a fucking American, and yeah the American right is a lost cause in terms of meaningful fascist action, at least under this constitution and historical course. the actual front is in Europe, that's what I'm really talking about. No one gives a fuck about America. We've been le 56% for god damn eons in the eyes of Europe.

it means that if Russia was given a choice to either prevent mass deportation of noneuropeans or have fucking Europe in its back pocket they would not hesitate in their decision.

cool that's literally all i care about. anyone who doesn't like jews (zionists particularly) is fine by me. #1 problem facing this planet imo, so much so that all other problems are not worth thinking about until it is solved.