COUP IN MOTION IN VENEZUELA

Excuse my ignorance but, can't they ban from the country those agitators?

The US said that if they tried to arrest Gaudio they would invade.

Jesus christ absolute state of America and their puppets.

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This is what the opposition wants, the opposition will provoke the goverment, knowing that the imperialist powers will report the news putting the opposition as innocent protesters against an hegemonic tiranny, as they always do.
That's why Maduro hasn't done anything of this, he knows that a war with the US, meanwhile would be the honest thing to do, the thing that any country should do after such humilliation, he knows that a war will make Venezuela into a shithole.

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Status of the opposition forces at the bridge

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I'm not trying to be a pessimist but…i have the feeling that if this doesn't work, a "stray bullet" will hit guaidó and give the US a chance.

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the coup will fail, the opposition will be arrested, the US won’t invade.

Is that because of Russia and China taking sides with Venezuela?

also majority of Venezuelans (people, army) are with Maduro, right?

If it's because of this, a Sarajevo event might happen.

The army is mostly composed of chavistas, the people half and half, maybe 65% Maduro 35% Guaidó

They aren't with Maduro as much as they're against US intervention.

Of the army? Yeah. Of the people, eh: I imagine if the US were to invade like Iraq we'd see an insurgency even by anti-Maduro forces.

Which specific Sarajevo event are you referencing?

1914
world war.
I'm not saying it will happen, but it could

Lol I thought you were referencing the 1990s.
Nah, a world war won't come of this, perhaps something like Vietnam or Korea might tho.

I don't think anti-US forces in Venezuela are against US intervention because what is happening from the very beginning is US intervention

You could have said the same about the forces in Iraq.

Sorry there is a mistake in my post!
I mean "pro-US forces in Venezuela are against US intervention". I apologise.

EVERY
GODDAMN
TIME

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they are calling on guaido's 3LC strings declaring him a traitor according to RT report
archive.is/X1YlO

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Down with Guaido the Gusano.

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I think this includes Juan Gaydoh too.

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twitter.com/AsambleaVE
It does

An opposition general has been detained
General Carlos Armas López controlls the weapons park of Maracay, and now he has been arrested.

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THE OPPOSITION FORCES ARE LOSING CONTROL OF THE TERRITORY THEY'RE CONTROLLING
Also, they said that they controlled the military base of la Carlota, it was false, they didn't , they are just at a bridge, armed, but at a bridge.

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At a bridge… with bananas.

No, that's not what is says. Military loyal to Guaido detain in Maracay, the General Carlos Armas Lopez.

The only Venezuelans who actively support Guaido are bourgeoisie, petite bourg, and maybe a few confused proletariat. The majority of workers and peasants are pro-Chavismo as a socioeconomic system but are dissatisfied with Maduro's handling of certain things.

shit coup try again in your next life

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Is Guaido gang so stupid as to only occupy a bridge and declare a coup? Either this is a bait by the US or he expects suppport

I think he's more desperate and thinks he can get enough of a showing on the streets.

They claimed to control a military/air base to project strength and imply they had the support of the army, in reality only taking a bridge/overpass in the hope they'd manage to get the public out on the streets and get some good shots of the highway crowded with 'patriotic venezuelans standing against oppression' with Guaido talking down to them from the bridge.
The real reason for all of this isn't a successful uprising of course but to provoke the government to open fire on people and use it as a rhetorical cudgel against venezuela's international reputation and rum up more support for and justify us intervention.

Absolutely spot on. Is any US news agency covering this?

Here is RT though:
rt.com/news/457893-guaido-military-uprising-video/
rt.com/news/457901-venezuelan-vice-president-confirms-coup/

There seems to be no news as of now on XinhuaNet

It was fake this apparently, it's not Carlos Armas Lopez as you can see in the picture: twitter.com/AndrewsAbreu/status/1123203610475679745

False the military base hasn't rebelled, they are loyal to Maduro and the constitution. Also the defectors are from the National Guard, "La Carlota" is an Air Force base.

FIERCE FIGHTING CONTINUES ON THE BRIDGE

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This feels so surreal, I was too young / apolitical to fully realise the retardedness of previous US imperialism, but to actually see these neocuck brainlets ironically spout their muh democracy shit, and have people actually swallow it despite spending last 5 or more years mocking it… Jesus Christ

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What an absolute fucking sack of sub-human filth.

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This could be fake news tho

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Vamos Maduro, mano dura con la puta gusanera!

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It's because Trump promised Saudi Arabia that if they turned up the pressure on the oil pumps they would stop Venezuela and Iran from selling their oil. It's economic. The sanction waivers against countries buying Iranian oil end tomorrow, and I stipulate this will create problems for countries seeking to buy Venezuelan oil. They should be able to crank up oil prices, and the value of the American dollar is tied to oil. Trump is such a fucking neocon shill.

Guaidó is clearly a CIA plant

There is no doubt about it. Also I don't know how difficult it is for liberals to understand, but if Venezuela was such a Maduro-dictatorship then Guiado would have been dead by now. This is of course ignoring that not killing that shill for now is a necessity to prevent further US aggression.

Protesting for who?

Guaidó

Where the fuck is Maduro? Did he fall into a coma or some shit?

It's true. twitter.com/SIVICOdigital/status/1123211723199209473

Guaidó, obviously. Also, I'm in Venezuela and Twitter and Youtube have been blocked, I'm getting most of my info from a reddit live feed.

Kinda dumb to protest in an active warzone

Can you share the live feed?

reddit.com/live/12vdsthc0q3rm/

From the Venezuela subreddit, but it's not like it would affect the information that you're getting. Government(???)-owned news media like VTV is just pretending that nothing is going on. I can't check Telesur since Youtube is blocked.

Ahaha your country is so cucked u are forced to use yiddit.

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So, Zig Forums. We'ce been memeing and thinking about this for a while. Now that the die is cast, what do you think will happen and how do you feel? I think that the coup will be botched, it seems desperate. I am pretty excited because finally the bus driver man will be able to get rid of Guaido, by one mean or another. Let's hope Russia and China twist the Us's arm enough to make them back down. I also hope Maduro steps down and makes way for a more hardline PSUV member. Pic unrelated

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i'm really fucking tired of losing

Can you access Tor, a VPN, or archive.org? I will archive TelesurTV articles for you

T. opposition

i'm trying to reverse jinx it

web.archive.org/web/20190430135848/https://www.telesurtv.net/news/Gobierno-desmiente-toma-de-Base-Aerea-La-Carlota-por-intento-de-golpe-en-Venezuela-20190430-0009.html

web.archive.org/web/20190430135931/https://www.telesurtv.net/news/venezuela-reacciones-internacionales-intento-golpe-estado--20190430-0011.html

web.archive.org/web/20190430135949/https://www.telesurtv.net/news/venezuela-pueblo-palacio-miraflores-respaldo-gobierno-nicolas-maduro--20190430-0012.html

web.archive.org/web/20190430135922/https://www.telesurtv.net/news/poderes-publicos-rechazan-golpe-estado-venezuela-20190430-0010.html

Anyone else noticing the "You can be a leftist and think Maduro is a baby eating dictator too" propaganda push?

Fuck CIA.

It's sad that half the Democrat Cops of America faggots will fall for this and then call you a ☭TANKIE☭ of you disagree

You've been lurking on r/socialism or r/anarchism as well? Fuck the left anti-communists. They are sickening.

Anyone else checking on the RT live chat? Seems like the bots and shills are in full force pushing for the narrative that Guaido is actually legit while Maduro is "a russian puppet."

The absolute irony.

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Since that piece of shit from the US empire tweeted, I think the news has reached cuckservatives. The top comments on RT articles half an hour ago were pro-Maduro. Now, as you say, they're not.

He is Making twits on the concentration of chavistas on Miraflores.

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Wasn't twitter taken down though? What's the point?

The opposition is spoiling endgame now.

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It came back about 15 minutes ago.

Is this all he's going to say? How are people supposed to believe that after seeing ?

He's right, that's why Guiado lost and Maduro won. Get fucked.

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THINKING

twitter.com/VP/status/1123222613273321472

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Translation

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Isn't that the old video of helicopters throwing tear gas bombs on protesters? Or is it another one?

It's really not looking good is it?

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Really makes me think

A bit inaccurate. He's saying that in some images, soldiers are armed with M-16s. Meaning that there are american weapons mixed in.

For now, they don't control too much territory, and the territory they control is now being disputed.

What, did they start taking the Esequibo?

yeah but Maduro has no outside support whatsoever does he? and every normie is already into a pro-coup frenzy even the leftist ones so we're going to hear Guaido getting jerked off by the medias for months.

Who's actually condemned the coup so far? I know Cuba and Bolivia have, anyone else?

Afaik, he has Russia and China's (along with Iran, Syria, and Cuba) support. Also some countries are neutral on this issue, wanting it to be "solved through democratic processes" or something like that. But that neutrality is actually passive support as we all know.

Russia and China would leave Maduro to die if they felt that Guaidó could pay their debt back.

So there's internet now?

Yeah but all those allies are really bad geographically speaking it looks bleak to me

But what about all the oil and stuff which US requires the price of which it wants down? Russia and China sure would want to counter that? But if you're right, I think it would be more likely that Russia backs Guiado than China.

Should be noted that the EU has been firmly against "non constitutional resolutions", so Guaido might have over-played here.

Good thinking Nostradamus.

Can you make a class analysis, of said propaganda push, is it promising anything, is Guido portrayed as anything more than just the privatizing-oil-man

S H O C K E D

You're right. The rest of the allies were in parentheses because Russia and China are the only allies which have a noticeable political influence.

Isn't he being portrayed as a "liberator" of people who would bring Venezuela out of poverty caused by a socialist dictator?

Twitter was just unblocked in Venezuela, could someone expect anything else?

With perfect english and completely unrelated tweets to Venezuela when there isn't a happening