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Here's mine
Dengism is right
Democratic centralism is shit. Rosa was right
Trot doesn't deserve the hate, even though his plans were retarded

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Trotskyism and marxism-leninism are practically identical
there's nothing inherently wrong with religion
there's nothing wrong with being patriotic

Dengism was a natural result of Maoism.
Places like Catalonia, Scotland shouldn't be independent.

USSR was state capitalism.

go back to reddit

Stalin wasn't that great, anyone could have done a better job without the purging of thousands of people.

Now this is retarted.

A chicken in every pot and a thot in every cot! One big union of incels! One man, one wife!

Read Trotsky you Mongoloid

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I don't think anyone here really finds this "spicy", we just don't give a shit

Idk I think you should care that a self identifying communist is trying to work within the Labour party, one of the great enemies of the people of the world

Eh, a bigger audience than any of the communist party in UK.

There's nothing inherently wrong with spiritualism*
Fixed it for you

There need to be a bigger focus on the mathematics behind socialism and the living standards were trying to achieve for all!

Capitalism is pretty neat!

When you use force against another sovereign territory it becomes imperialisty XDDD

They were literally extracting surplus value from the Warsaw pact states, Brezhnev admitted as such

Imma gonna ask daddy Ismail to see if he has something on this.

Socialism and communism will isn't ever going to be achieved. We'll all be grinding under capitalism until we die. And so will our descendants.

Kinda unrelated question but has there been a more knowledgeable poster on leftypol than Ismail? I wonder how he even finds those old soviet books.

Why not ask him yourself. Also why doesn't he post on Zig Forums/? Did BO ban him?

He doesn't? I thought I saw him namefag here

Probably because he rather spend his time on Chapo where more people will read him. He occesionally visits here. /Marx/ also while very infrequent has more effort posting.

Trotsky actually explicitly rejected the theory of State Capitalism. The theory was formulated in its most complete form by the International Socialist Tendency (aka "Cliffites", aka SWP (UK) and its splits).

Tony Cliff's book "State Capitalism in Russia" sums it up:

marxists.org/archive/cliff/works/1964/russia/ch08-s1.htm#s5


tl;dr: in the face of the failure of the Russian Revolution to spread to the industrial core, the USSR was forced to compete with capitalist firms on the global capitalist market, either through trade or preparation for imperialist invasion. Hence the law of value of the capitalist market continues to rule over the Soviet working class. The theory is not about the existence of wage inequality in Soviet society (although it was high enough to rival western social democracy)

Here’s some radioactive takes

Ted Kaczynski was right
Charles Manson was based and did nothing wrong
Jim Jones was a victim of the CIA
Pol Pot had good ideas but terrible execution

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Explain

Ceasing the means of production and destruction of the bourgeoisie are my only concern. LGBT rights, women's rights and race issues are not important. They are just counter-revolutionary propaganda to distract the proletariat.

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Based. Now post this on chapo trap house

1. Don't really give a shit about this
2. Not religious but I can see why you'd think that
3. Don't know what you mean with this
4. Debatable, hopefully you're right tho
5. Believing this is utopian
6. Hopefully
7. Disagree but understand why some people would believe this
8. Dead meme and false dichotomy. Just as retarded as the revolution vs reform shitfest
9. Idk, don't really care though
10. Sure but completely disagree
11. Agree

You're the counter revolutionary here, not black people or queers

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t. would backstab his comrades if the bourgeoisie offered him more strains of wokecapitalism and pride parades.

You would stab black or indian comrades in the back if they demanded any kind of reparations

The current state of idpol faggotory creating discontent amongst the western left proves that the CPSU under the leadership of Joseph Stalin was ironically correct when they proclaimed that homosexuality was a symptom of bourgeois decadence.

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If you frame it as worker oriented like the BPP rainbow one big union, coalition thing, I see no problem as having them as showing how spooked porky is

Stfu. Natives would be treated equally in socialism, so why elevate them for something literally nobody alive participated in?

The US and Canada are still land grabbing from reservations and poisoning their water to this day you illiterate

Okay
Maybe to you, but okay
Retarded tier take. Approaching these struggles from an anti-capitalist perspective is by no means counter-revolutionary.

Reparations are dumb as fuck

With improvements in automation the rate of profit will soon be negative. Causing capitalism to collapse. With the tech already developed in capitalism, production for use under socialism will be very efficient and cheep leading to FALC.

Citation needed

Pray the gay away.

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Reparations don't fucking work.

state atheism the pray away

The USSR was state capitalist from 1922-1928 and from 1985-1991. The rest of the time it was socialist.

Forgive me Enver for I have strayed….

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Do you not remember the DAPL protests?

DAPL was also built on land owned by whites. It’s not an inherently native issue.

This.
As for stuff like the Oka crisis, we have to remember it was capitalists confiscating "reservations"internment camps they they often decide to to stay in, lol, not an entire nation

This, reparations create racial inequality and divide the proletariat to prevent them from actually taking ownership of the means of production.

Literally came in to say this. Also wanted to mention that anyone who thinks the word "reparations" is a valid part of a leftist political program at this time is a fucking lunatic.
Also, Tito was a huge scumbag and everything Hoxha wrote about him was true.

What is your fucking problem?

cappies have learned their lesson and there will never be a successful revolution or change… unless leftists adapt and improvise someway.
why? they made from workers class to workers class welfare programs so misery decreases on those on the lowest of the lowest end in the class spectrum and to make those who work hate "leftism" i.e high taxes.
industry culture, consumerism and media controls every intellectual aspect of the average man's life and it creates unnecessary needs and attachments all while pushing neoliberal rhetorics .
a huge part of mainstream leftism has been sabotaged to shift the focus from the bigger image (ex: class struggle) to the smaller unnecessary details (ex: gender issues, social justice) and to ruin the public image of leftists.
modern global imperialist monopoly on international politics assures instability and destruction in any uprising competitor/leftist country while giving those who live in the west prosperity from legally stolen resources so people sink into even more consumerism. corps usually try to infiltrate other cultures and areas under the name of "multiculturalism" to milk it dry and to get rid of any possible resistance against imperialism by changing culture and denormalizing hostility toward imperialist countries. maybe a mega-isolationist socialist state with a "people's dictatorship" (i know that term is retarded) that also happens to be a resourceful country with self sufficiency is the solution to modern imperialism? doubt such state exists.
pretty sure capitalism will eventually fall but that doesn't seem to be near

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Whole heartedly agree.

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Shut the fuck up.

China is doing everything right.

There is nothing wrong with communist internationalism, even though babbys will call it Imperialism

Assad is allied with communists, socialists, and unionists and is objectively the good guy

Free Speech groups should be abolished, heckled, fire alarms pulled.

DPRK is necessarily holding the line and is thinking 50-100 years ahead towards the future.

The colevtivos are very good and cool, long live maduro

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No thanks I don't want to get banned

use a VPN

You seem like the kind of retard who thinks politics is all about ascetics.

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America is truly doomed

Nice b8

*says the Trot unironically

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These are all correct though I have my doubts about the ayys.

There are not enough internal contradictions in capitalism for communism to succeed it. Mad max/waterworld is our future.

More like white people will endlessly defend their privileged status and keep the proletariat in exchange for HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit) and Game of Thrones.

The use value of art is to be art. It's not supposed to "produce" use value, you can't even actually "produce" use value, you can only transform it.

We've gone from stonewall to cops at pride within only a few decades.

Seriously kys, petite bourgeois revisionist.

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I think a lot of media is right about the idea that collapse to chaos follows capitalism but that communism will follow. There's just going to be so much productive capital made durable to survive whatever people can throw at it and there won't be anyone around to stop us from seizing it and then laying seige to the few bourgies left remaining in their bunkers.

There's nothing wrong with getting your prostate massaged by that cute latina next door while she blows you.

A future society might look like Judge Dredd (the most recent movie) or Elyzium (that movie with Matt Damon except without the space station) where the living standards of Western countries goes way down but there are more state-owned industries and Cockshott-style planning if we're lucky. Like the situation probably ain't going to be a utopia even if you could have the Communist Party running everything. But that's fine and it's just the next stage.

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American empire must be completely destroyed for humanity to have a chance.

Trying to stop the climate change with your wind/solar faggotry is reactionary and will lead us to eco-fascism where worsening conditions of the working class will be justified by the need to decrease consumption.

Nuclear war is unavoidable because porkies are no longer human and they will use all means possible to stop the world revolution.

Ismail is full of shit.

Stalin did nothing wrong.

Homosex is bourgeois decadence.

Traps are gay.

Christcom poster is the best poster.

Let's hope so.

Completely agree with you on this point, comrade!

t. whitetariat.

I dunno, Juggalos seem pretty feckless reactionaries to me…

Reparations don't work, unless if you're expropriating land and property that is.

These whitetarians would

more whitetarian tears.

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Mao was a good theorist but a bad state leader.
Accelerationism is stupid.
The Hungarians didn't deserve to be invaded.
Backstabbin' Bernie is shit.
North Korea is revisionist.
USSR gave up any attempts at Marx's ideas after WWII.
Feminist Socialism gets too much hate.
Stalin was an idiot for dividing the Spanish left.
Assad is shit.
Post-Leftism is underrated.

If it throwing money at people worked wage labor would make us all billionaires.

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I think this is Hoxhaism with leftcom characteristics.

based

The USA is an already Communist nation as Leo Strauss said. We need to expand voting rights to Direct Democracy and unironically conquer the entire world and bring in a one world government.

It's not just hope on this. Huge amounts of the stuff that our society runs on is extremely durable, what's less durable is the infrastructure keeping it up. You would have a lot of trouble seriously damaging a lot of industrial capital, but you could cut off society's access to that capital relatively easily, and widespread infrastructure damage on its own would cause MadMaxism.
Obviously this will be pretty lethal to a lot of people but the sheer productive multiplier output left available will be up for grabs for whoever can start getting them up and running first, and I can tell you the porkies are not actually in a very good position for re-grabbing what's left over.

pick one

that FBI flag is less ironic than I thought

Literally none of these are even remotely hot takes.

Ismail is a faggot and people should stop worshiping him

This is a bannable offense in every single country on earth.

WOW HE’S A GENIUS

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why? because it's an abstract ideal that doesn't really have a material form?

that's impressive even for a tr*t

Good take gang

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The USA is the right side of History and it's for the best if you support it because unlike all those Fascist shitholes you can do whatever you like in the USA and be Free. The USA should crush all those nations.

Also if the USA gets into a war with them any moment now they will shut down this site.

Nothing is any different than before at all. Capitalists have power over proletariat, as they always had, but they are powerless over themselves. They cannot prevent themselves from maximising profits, from every entity privatising profit and nationalizing expenses. They have a long-ish fuse only because there used to be USSR, and it's not that long, I mean, it had only been 30 years and the whole world is in deep decline.

Lenin's State and Revolution still applies in full.

So you’re an edgy socdem

The stupidpol thing is completely true. I used to post there and they have an obsession with being contrarian

Who makes saddam out to be a good guy?