Bernie gets elected

He was in the SWP, he was created in the dish that made LaRouche.

I have more hope in wannabe terrorist groups like Red Guards Austin or Socialist Rifle Association bringing actual change than I do in the fucking Democratic party. If anything radical happens it's because of a war with Iran, with a draft, which will mean Saudi Arabia collapses and all that sweet gulf money is gone.

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proletarian revolution is impossible with the rise of AI. The new goal of socialism must be to submit all state power to an all-powerful anti-Zionist superintelligence.

Bernie will never win the Democratic nomination ever. The democrats gave up on being even moderately reformist ages ago and are already working to primary the ds.a out of the House.

If Bernie did when exactly what you said would happen because it would come inn the middle of a massive financial crash which would immediately be blamed on socialism and nobody to the left of red Cruz would ever hold elected office ever again

correct. nothing bernie says is remotely financially feasible and the DNC will not allow it.

Would it really be like that though? The crash is likely to come around the end of this year from what I understand, while Bernie would only step into office on January of 2021. In such a scenario the brainlet logic of post hoc ergo propter hoc would actually help leftism, since the natural post crash recovery would coincide with a succdem president

people said that last year, and the year before that, too. economic crashes are caused more by retarded interest rate domino effects more than whatever the fuck would make you believe in inevitable apocalyptic crashes. Marx gave perfectly good 19th century reasons for the crises of capitalism, but Marxists have made an incredibly organized religion out of not reading past the manifesto.

RGA are literally feds lol

If Bernie won the best thing he could do is use the bully pulpit to call out specific members of congress for getting in his way and appealing to their constitutents to primary them.

"Interest rate domino effects" are themselves caused by the capitalists having no choice but to rely on cheap loans in order to sustain themselves. This is caused by the falling rate of profit, which incentivizes financial speculation which is what the entire imperialist economy is dominated by.

there isn't likey to be one any time soon

He's not even radical he's just a sucdem

Bernie is deceleration though

How is this good?

when interest rates go up the loans stop being cheap and the speculation collapses but this never ever leads to a crisis of capitalism because then they just lower interest rates again. Keynesians these days are prepping the public for negative interest rates so I wouldn't get your revolutionary hopes up. If Japan was a communist utopia I'd concede you have a point.

"The economy will never crash again, DOW 100,000 by 2030"

Okay? And how does that make him a nazi?

Based on what exactly? If you can predict a crash you stand to make billions of dollars.

This is why it's important that Trump gets his first term and the economy crashes under him.

Trump's called himself a nationalist, and while the far right might have "disowned" him, he's still seen in the public consciousness as "far right", it would've been way worse if Clinton won, because you would've gotten 4 or maybe even 8 years of "I told you so!" from right wing populists, which will just ensure the next guy they push out is even more extreme and even more electable.

Even if Bernie's blocked, he can just point out how Washington politicians are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of Americans to take home a larger paycheck, which would radicalize people further.

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Nah, go to any leftist meeting, its almost all petty bourgeois. People who have to worry about where their food and healthcare are coming from don't become revolutionaries unless they are starving. If Bernie somehow gets what he wants passed, people will be more comfortable asking for more and more. Look at the US in the 60s, the whole point of the neoliberal reforms was to destroy the working class so they'd stop being so uppity.

More likely scenario is that Bernie can't get shit passed, everyone calls him a traitor and elect Mecha-Hitler in 2024.

It's accelerationism either way.

You can only make billions of dollars if you already have millions of dollars.

When Tesla has a bigger market cap than Ford, and Uber and Lyft are able to have huge IPOs despite never being profitable and not having a plan to ever be profitable, it seems like something has gotta give. But who knows anymore, look at Amazon lol. I'm not gonna short the stocks.

I hope that Sanders fails to get elected again. This would redpill some liberals maybe.

If Bernie fails it's because he lost the nomination to Biden. Bernie or Biden will win the election. People in America think Trump is absolute shit. You got lifelong Republicans party jumping. States are taking Trump off the ballot for refusing to show his taxes, and New York is bulling his tax information. Mueller will be televised in a couple days. Trump is like a tin can painted gold. The winds are blowing towards the counter reaction.

shit, I have to read up. What's that with zionism and what does it have to do with AI? You know the first crude GAI will be biased anyway.
Or were you oversimplifying with balant antisemitism and wanted to sound smart? I know what's like to be below average, just accept it.

anti-zionism =/= anti-semitism

The kike won't be president.

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This is why leftists need to learn from the conservative playbook and focus on local and state elections before working our way up.

One of the things about fash posting gay porn is that you know these guys had it saved up for awhile. It's a closet case ideology.

Probably tbh but they clocked a fascist over the head really good at their May Day thing from what I could tell from the Facebook livestreams. Fash underestimated them.

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Sanders or maybe Gravel are the only two people who could stop fascism

Anyone else getting elected will only ensure a Nazi future

what about tulsi?

follows (followed?) a sketchy scam artist white boomer hippie pretend hindu guru/cult guy in hawaii
totally retardpilled and probably only good as a VP candidate to bernie

Maybe? I dunno, I thought she was just a standard Democrst who just happened to endorse Bernie

My thinking is that only someone able to form a sizable working-class movement is going to be able to turn back the rising tide of fascism

Said sketchy scam artist guru was her father.

no, her dad was a member of the cult too… but no, not its leader. i think he is nevertheless one of the cults benefactors and who knows? maybe chris butler fucked mike gabbards wife and tulsi is the kid, who fucking cares tho? mike gabbard is entrenched in hawai'i politics though and is a notorious homophobe. not even joking, guy is a homophobia activist. the cult guy is named chris butler. just look up "tulsi cult" my dude.

Yes, but she left the cult and was only in it to begin with because her father was.

Sorry to rain on your parade but there is no bubble that is about to burst next year.

One gold nugget in Ben Shapiro’s meltdown on BBC was when he said that Trump has lowered the level of political discourse in America and he accepts it as the new normal. In 2018 I was sure that Trump would be ousted in 2020 because the people just want to return to “normalcy,” but indeed now I am not so sure.

plz

If you search "next economic recession" you will find many sources claiming it to be around 2020. I do not how if they are right but if they turn out to be, I won't be surprised.

For example:
sputniknews.com/us/201805111064346214-usa-economy-recession-forecast-poll

yes, a presidential one-man show is doomed to fail

not only local and state elections but local and state power in general: community orgs etc.

Can you name a single policy that isn't financially feasible? Because he's advocating for a moderate position with policies that are found in almost all first world countries.

I have no specific predictions about the election, but Socialism is not going to come through the electoral process.

Or as the Bolsheviks used to say "electoral farce".

There are always people saying that dooms day is right around the corner

is this your first day on the internet?

free college
free healthcare

A unified healthcare system is cheaper, look at Britain.

ok retard

You’d think after 70 years of falling for the same economic death traps, brought on by Keynesian policies, Americans would have grown conscious of these failed attempts by now.

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Do you mean the trickle down economics of Reagan and co.?

By extent, yes. Keynesian economics only levied some of the pressures of capitalism by issuing the bare minimum required to sustain an economy long enough for 3 generations to experience the slow degradation of the ‘American Dream’. The problem Keynesian policies stem from are not the policies themselves, but it’s eagerness to loosen its grip on the unpredictable nature of capitalism, once economic equilibrium has been achieved. History has never once demonstrated a political or economic system compatible with capitalism, to be desirable.

Jesus Christ, my grammar is atrocious. I need to go to bed.

Here is your problem. Keynesian policies require a central bank or money authority, which will ALWAYS BE RUN BY A SMALL GROUP OF SCUM.
You think you can let people have a magic money machine and they don't use it to rob everyone? topfuckingkek

Power to the people means getting paid in real money, gold and silver. Power to the people means being able to pass on their wealth generationally (the small guy I mean). How many people inherit literally nothing but expenses after the government takes their cut? Homesteads and basic household wealth should be untaxable at any time. No property tax which is used to steal a family's land each generation.

Power to the people means LESS power centralized and more power dispersed.

Until the left realizes this it is doomed to lose to fascism and the like.

Money isn't necessary anymore, read Towards a New Socialism, non transferable labor credits are the way to go

Doesn't sound like it would play out that way. There are two sides to the Democrat party the "progressives" and the "moderates". The former want at least to some degree what Bernie does but the later wants to fight against it because they think they can't get votes unless they appeal to Republican party voters. So it's a matter of who else has a seat in the government.

Bernie winning in 2020 is the best possible outcome.

Eight years of Trump it is.

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