EU elections

Isaac Rodriguez
Isaac Rodriguez

I stumbled upon a pool in /leftybritpol/ thread, with question "who will you vote for in eu elections?". What the fuck? Why would enlightened Zig Forums comrade vote for anyone else than the communist party?

b-but party I am voting for is promising more green industry/higher (minimal) wages/better free speech protection/…
Why would you vote for a party with single (empty) promise of something better instead of party which will offer you full package?
b-but communist party in my country is corrupt as fuck
so is party you would be voting for, you just not know it
b-but I am the real communist(R) so I know that burgerious elections to the EU will not abolish capital anyway and so on and on
like it or not, EU parliament and institutions does affect our daily lives. Also, the communist parties are fighting for further democratization of EU

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Jordan Rivera
Jordan Rivera

There is no communist party running.

Leo Smith
Leo Smith

"The Communist party", which Communist party,, if any?

James Smith
James Smith

How many parties in country you are from have word "communist" in name?

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

Like 7, plus a billion trot sects: almost none of them stand for election and none in my constituency,

Gabriel Peterson
Gabriel Peterson

Comrade, I have no idea what "constituency" is, but no normal european communist party would run for seats in EU if they would be leaving in a few months.

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

I won't vote because I had administrative problems due to not having a stable home, but I would have voted for La France Insoumise or Yellow Vests representatives if it would be a thing.

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

why not French Communist Party?

Owen Green
Owen Green

Because the PCF is a wee bit shite?

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

the communist party of britain endorses labour.

and to answer your first question, some people are considering voting brexit party as a protest vote against establishment remainers who are trying to derail brexit.

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

wee bit shite
I can't speak frogspeak, translate it into english, please.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

and to answer your first question, some people are considering voting brexit party as a protest vote against establishment remainers who are trying to derail brexit.

electing cryptofascists to own the libs

Cameron James
Cameron James

Brexit Party has Claire Fox as a candidate and is endorsed by all the right people e.g. George Galloway. In fact it's the only party that's actively seeking the votes of Lexiters (i.e. actual leftists) in these elections. Go and sign another petition if you don't like it.

Christian Turner
Christian Turner

Fox stayed with her ex-RCP members when the group transformed itself in the early 2000s into a network around the web magazine Spiked Online and the Institute of Ideas, both based in the former RCP offices. Author and environmental activist George Monbiot has argued these groups are part of the "pro-corporate libertarian right".

Wow what a fucking leftist hero. I've read Spiked, it's total TPUSA style shit.

And George Galloway? Jesus wept.

I'm just in absolute fucking awe that leftists are somehow getting fooled by communism again.

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Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

BREXIT is cryptofash
fuck off

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Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright

Ayy nice wordfilter BO, you're still getting the last laugh eh.

If you will vote for a bunch of reactionaries in ties backed by the dirtiest of far right money because they tell you what you want to hear about sovereignty, you deserve to get purged, I'm happy you'll be standing there next to me.

M-L
the year of our lord 2019

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

yes, there are.
DKP, MLPD and SGP are running in Germany.

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Wyatt Cooper
Wyatt Cooper

If you will vote for a bunch of reactionaries in ties backed by the dirtiest of far right money because they tell you what you want to hear about sovereignty, you deserve to get purged, I'm happy you'll be standing there next to me.
BREXIT Party is far-right
No, their a big tent party, though kids like you probably don’t know what that means.
M-L
the year of our lord 2019
I’m not fan of tan,kies either, but a comrade is a comrade, sectarianism helps no one but the capitalists.

Adrian Scott
Adrian Scott

The communist parties in the EU are all subsumed in the European Left coalition. So it doesn't really matter which one you vote for, as long as it isn't one of the tiny ones that has no chance to get a seat in the European Parliament anyway. But there is no x % hurdle for the European Parliament. So even if your party just gets 0.6 % or so it might get a seat.

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Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

3 communist parties
none will get a seat

Juan Parker
Juan Parker

No, their a big tent party, though kids like you probably don’t know what that means.

How the fuck are they? Their most prominent members are all hard right figures. I don't care if they attracted some irrelevant quislings. The Tories and UKIP have become unpalatable so they've rebranded again, it's the exact same thing happened when the BNP magically got a makeover and became UKIP, and suddenly we had to act like it was a respectable and reasonable party. I mean for the love of christ. How gullible can people be after how many times the right have courted the left in in the last century only to viciously destroy them?

I’m not fan of tan,kies either, but a comrade is a comrade, sectarianism helps no one but the capitalists.

I try not to be sectarian but come on, anyone seriously presenting themselves as as a Marxist Leninist in the current year has got to get a reality check. Even the fucking Nazis have learned to rebrand their same ideas under new auspices, and they're fucking dumb as shit.

God damnit. I can't take this shit no more.

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Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

kill yourself euphile

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Jacob Harris
Jacob Harris

Not before you, quisling fuck.

Caleb Davis
Caleb Davis

no u

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Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

Like I said, they'll butcher us both together regardless, so what does it matter. I'm ashamed to share a board with you, the SJW radlibs seem like a better option some days.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

you will fit right in

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Nolan Cox
Nolan Cox

brexit is leftism
i love this meme

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

EU is leftist
I'm tired of this meme

Isaac Turner
Isaac Turner

there is a leftist option in bourgeois politics

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Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

doing exactly what the ruling class wants and self-restricting voter franchise
On the contrary. Always do the opposite of what they want. Just look at the state of Bong politics when the people voted for something the establishment clearly did not want.

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Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

monarchism isn't communism
therefore opposition to monarchism is communism
western european "communist" youtubers shouldn't be allowed to use the internet

Sebastian Price
Sebastian Price

Any even remotely socialist program requires leaving the EU and its pro-capital regulations. Reforming EU is a waste of time. Nuke Brussels. Change my mind.

Jonathan Cruz
Jonathan Cruz

Oh please. If voting could change anything it would be illegal.

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Jaxon Thompson
Jaxon Thompson

Nuke Israel. Change my mind.

Camden Gray
Camden Gray

Nuke Israel.
Yes.
Change my mind.
No.

A cold, hard truth, but it needs to be demonstrated as such. Doing nothing leaves you looking like a euphoric, 2kool4skool cynic.

Gavin Smith
Gavin Smith

Why does what we look like matter in the slightest?

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

Nuke Israel.
Yes.
Great, congratulations on joining both the communist and the fascist party.

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

You want people to listen to you after they've been disillusioned with representative bourgeois democracy, rather than the fascist that promises to fix everything, and proposes ditching the entire "voting" thing entirely, right?

All genuine fascist parties are pro-Israel, though? Which is itself fascist? Or are you implying anti-semitic neonazi LARPers are politically relevant?

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

The BREXIT Party has many supporters and members who are left wing. If you want to fight reactionary ideology, fight the EU, not Brexit. It’s important to remember that it isn’t the BREXIT Party sinking migrant ships, it’s the EU army with their “fortress Europe” nonsense. The EU is a reactionary institution.

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

a party that is anti-eu is as communist as a party that is anti-israel you absolute retard. die slow

Angel Morgan
Angel Morgan

You work with the tools you have, not the tools you want.

Chase Jenkins
Chase Jenkins

eat shit and die you stupid motherfucker you are no tanky

Camden Nelson
Camden Nelson

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Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

EU is a neoliberal shithole that can’t be reformed (although an effort should still be made) so I can understand leaving. But the attempt to leave is definelty ideologically muddied, especially where there is no real casus beli to leave. I picked Soft Brexit though coz that is THE actual democratic decision to make that Leavers and Remoaners are ignoring to be partisan as fuck.

TL:DR Labour did nothing wrong with regards to EU

James Brown
James Brown

Don't worry, the EU is dead, when the coming Last Depression reaches Deutsche Bank.

Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

No, fascism is not a looming threat. It cannot come back. Global capitalism cannot be split back into numerous sphere like it was in the beginning of the twentieth century. Trying to look good to normies as opposed to fascism is a fool's concern.

Christian Kelly
Christian Kelly

No, fascism is not a looming threat. It cannot come back.
Liberalism is always destined to collapse into fascism. If you bothered to look past the speeches, the aesthetics, the bells and the whistles, and looked exactly how neoconservatives and neoliberals behave, the wars, the trampling on workers, the handouts to the rich, you'd faintly hear Hello Zepp in the back of your head.

Jackson Ortiz
Jackson Ortiz

Doubt but okay. I think when people talk about the EU it is more about the institutions than its monetary policy

Easton Martinez
Easton Martinez

Reported.

Christian Murphy
Christian Murphy

You forget its modus operandi and capitalism itself. To grow, capitalism requires free movement of labour (Schengen) and free movement of capital (deregulation and austerity). And you should know by now how these l'aissez faire ventures end and instability it introduces. Either Germany bails out Deutsche Bank, breaking the rules they forced on everyone else, and the rest tells them to fuck off and start looking after their hurting economies, or they don't and Deutsche Bank's €43 trillion in derivatives crash the EU economy with no survivors.

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

What are you talking about? The amount of communist parties that are in the EL are next to zero, and even if, say, a communist party would join them they'd be kicked out by the butthurt SocDems anyway. The KKE founded the Initiative of European Commmunist and Worker's Parties for communists to have their home on a European scale:
initiative-cwpe.org/en/home/
If your party isn't in there, it's probably massively revisionist.

Camden Wilson
Camden Wilson

everybody who identifies with Marx and Lenin is stuck in the past and is like a Nazi
/liberalpol/index.html

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

now that /leftpol/ comes back after BO's resignation we got literal EU shills

Jesus Christ

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

But people talking about entering or leaving EU is more concerned about its democratic/federal nature rather its monetary policies. A economic crash would injure EU but would not deflate the European ideal/dream

Jordan Martinez
Jordan Martinez

You'd be naive to believe that the people in charge who join/leave the EU don't do it because of mostly economic incentives. Or even military incentives, like the butthurt belt in its Russophobia.

William Adams
William Adams

European ideal/dream

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Leo Ross
Leo Ross

Brainlets. I never said I personally believed in the European dream/ideal, only that the people who likes the EU probably do.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

You think EU exists because the people believe in the European ideal. And I'm going to have to ask you never call anyone else a brainlet until you learn materialism.

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Austin Cruz
Austin Cruz

If an idea is shared by a large number of people it becomes a material force
t.Lenin

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Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

Then what's your argument to not leave the EU? The way the EU is structured it's much harder for socialists to get a foothold in EU structures than in national structures. The EU has fucked anything that's slightly to the left of centre with sanctions and austerity, like Syriza or the left coalition in Portugal, getting out of its stronghold is a good idea.

Jayden Perry
Jayden Perry

You think EU exists because the people believe in the European idea
No I don’t you fucking moron.

I never said otherwise? Check up the reply chain.

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

CPGB-ML
Imagine actually believing this…
Also the BXP is full-to-the-brim with prokies what are you chatting.

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

My country's socialist party is euroskeptic, I think they're good enough to vote for.

Jackson Walker
Jackson Walker

Any Swedes here? SKP are running and K is telling people to not vote. What do? SKP are embarrassing "anti-revisionist" Stalinoid LARPers tbh.

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Owen Clark
Owen Clark

Idk why there are people defending BXP on ideological terms itt, it's a single issue party and the best thing for it to do is to splinter the votes between various factions of the right-wing after the European Elections. The Protest vote strategy isn't something I'm opposed to but enough people are doing that for Tories & Kippers to get royally fucked anyway. I think you all need to realise that BXP technically isn't a /real/ political party in that all executive control rests with Farage, and that he's going to pivot towards the exact same positions as Johnson & Rees Mogg (I.E becoming cucked to the US and inviting them in to sell off even more state institutions, especially the NHS. Mogg personally benefits from this because he runs private care homes). This is just going to be another neoliberal ourobouros eating it's own tail through marketizing even more aspects of our lives. That being said I think it's ultimately a good development that turns out well for the left because as UKIP & BXP increasingly show themselves to be exactly the same Right-Wing horseshit as Tories, the more of them start looking for alternatives.

Hunter Wright
Hunter Wright

Wow what a fucking leftist hero. I've read Spiked, it's total TPUSA style shit.
And George Galloway? Jesus wept.
Don't care what you think about their ideas (although Galloway is absolutely based). The point is that they identify as Lexiters, therefore the party is open to Lexiters and cannot be called a right-wing one. It's a broad church for supporters of Brexit and if and when it stops being that, I will stop supporting it. Comparing it to the Nazis is some crass bullshit, friend.

leftists are somehow getting fooled by communism again.
Why are you even here if you believe this shit. Communism = leftism

because they tell you what you want to hear about sovereignty
You just love strawmanning, don't you.

I thought OP was just talking about Britain.

Nathan Lee
Nathan Lee

'Leave the EU' definitely was a leftist option. That's why the establishment was heavily opposed to the referendum. It would never have been offered to us if David Cameron hadn't been so stupid and reckless.

Opposition to monarchism is a necessary part of communism. You cannot be a communist if you don't oppose it, just like you can't be a communist if you don't oppose the EU.

Soft Brexit is the ideal outcome for Porky. It preserves our entanglement in EU institutions while at the same time preserving the facade of bourgeois democracy. Hard Brexit > Remain > Soft Brexit.

International Brigades flag poster has been around for a while with the same opinions, and he hasn't been banned (which is good). Definitely nothing to do with BO leaving.

Better that CPB's policy of 'dude vote Labour lmao'. Even though all Labour's candidates are People's Voters.

Samuel Powell
Samuel Powell

Even though all Labour's candidates are People's Voters.
*Not literally all, but many

Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

The CPB are calling for a boycott of the EU elections communist-party.org.uk/images/boycott_leaflet.pdf

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

Oops. I was going off this post , should have verified it.

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Well might as well make it an EU election general since it is coming up.

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

Not swedish, but what is the worst thing "true SKP member" would do? He can't exactly begin collectivization of all european farmland and throw every liberal into prison. What he will do instead is vote in favour of leftist legislative, and try to push EU from the NATO. They might not be the best option for your country, but they will do as good as any truly leftist party would do in EU parliament.

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Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

STOP POSTING PORN
I want rin to dominate me so badly

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

dressed woman is a porn
did you just came from sunday's church?

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Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

This is degenerate too, you did not have that in the Soviet Union.
Also going out is pure suffering tbh especially in summer when there are all these cute females in their revealing clothes, it's like being a starving child locked up in a cage in a luxus restaurant.

Carson King
Carson King

soviet union was cold. Other socialist countries were not as puritan as you suggest in regard to revealed skin, and if some man would try to force on woman dressed in swimming suit in town was beaten up by police.

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Altough the DKP has distanced themself from the EL, I wonder why they didn't join INITIATIVE yet.

John Collins
John Collins

Holy shit dude have a wank.

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Landon Hernandez
Landon Hernandez

Contrary to the meme, fascism is not liberalism's final form. We are in liberalism's final form, and it is every bit as awful as fascism was. It is stupid to worry about the long-dead fascism when we have the very current liberalism with its boot on our collective necks right now. What exactly are you even afraid of? We already have the mass incarcerations, the poor segregated from the not-so-poor, a police force that is indistinguishable from the military, the wholesale slaughter of civilians, the mandatory propaganda that dominates every media outlet, omnipresent surveilance, a small ruling cabal, workers movements systematically eliminated. Even if fascism were possible in this global capitalism–which it's not–it could not possibly be any worse than what we have right now in the liberal present.

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

"Fortress Europe" is an economic term. The European Union is critically engaged in destroying national boundaries. This is good for us because it accelerates the elimination of concerns which go beyond capital and are easy exploited by the Bourgeois. Nationalism has to die if Communism is to live. It creates attachments to things like tradition (a tool for the maintenance of class structure). The EU, for all its faults, will be an essential tool for us to push for Worker unity. Vote for the furthest left-wing party on the ballot paper.

Chase Thomas
Chase Thomas

This. We have to be adaptive to circumstances. Liberalism has caused nothing but mass poverty and a social class of people who have been completely abandoned. In the first world we see the transition from traditional industries to service industries erode the once ubiquitous class consciousness that helped Communist parties and Unions achieve the (albeit limited) successes they once enjoyed. Service industries have created a Bourgeois "Working Class". overcoming that is the biggest challenge for European Communists.

Isaiah Foster
Isaiah Foster

That's exactly what my view is, basically. Plus the EU is a useful counterweight to America and the rising China.

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

pro-EU posting should be a bannable offense tbh

Tyler Peterson
Tyler Peterson

Plus the EU is a useful counterweight to America and the rising China.
Literally neolib rhetoric.
<hurr durr Europe should be as imperialist as the USA like it was in the old days to fight the Chinese bugmen

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

I asked them about it, they never heard about it.

Jack Williams
Jack Williams

The EU is accelerating capitalism to the point that capitalism's inherent contradictions will destroy it and lead to European communism.
Going back to nationalism and national currencies will keep capitalism alive for a lot longer. When the EU is already communist, Corbystan will still be succdem.

Benjamin Foster
Benjamin Foster

When the EU is already communist

Do you want to say by this, the EU can be reformed?

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

no, he's saying that Brussel's parliament should be seized by red army and establish European Socialist Union.

Adam Lewis
Adam Lewis

A trot agreeing with ML's

Looks like you'll be spared the Ice-pick today comrade

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

Any even remotely socialist program requires leaving the EU and its pro-capital regulations. Reforming EU is a waste of time. Nuke Brussels. Change my mind.
Any even remotely socialist programme requires a reassertion of poltical power over capital, the sovereignty of state power against global capital. Any even vaguely "anti-business" policies will be punished by credit rating agencies and investors, and companies and wealthy individuals will threaten to take their business elsewhere. Tax havens are the most blatant example of this. There are precisely two states powerful enough to actually weaken the power of global capital, and neither would benefit from such actions in the present. European Union represents some 25% of global GDP, and European rules on, say, tax havens would have a solid chance of becoming institutionalised globally. Even the current EU, despite having tax dodgers like Juncker at the top, is already acting against tax havens, just not aggressively enough. What is needed now is political will and power, and GUE/NGL for example is already doing a lot of groundwork on the tax haven issue.

why? sure, it's just another bourgeois institution of political power, but where political power resides so must we.

that's a giant strawman, user. are you sure you're not arguing in bad faith?
Literally neolib rhetoric.
neolib, how? more like neorealist geopolitics if anything.
For what it's worth, an EU military would actually prevent interventionism, since any military action taken by it would probably require a high level of political unanimity, thus blocking the usual suspects from utilising it to destabilise and destroy countries in Africa or the Mid-East. It's unlikely anything short of a territorial invasion could trigger enough consensus for military action.

Gavin Nguyen
Gavin Nguyen

Lmfao Brexit was 100% about racism and nationalism.
Opposition to monarchism is a necessary part of communism. You cannot be a communist if you don't oppose it.
Opposition to monarchism is a necessary part of capitalism. You cannot be a capitalist if you don't oppose it.

Your take is dogshit. Any good socialist should be anti-Clinton, therefore you should vote Trump. Any good socialist should be anti-Israel therefore you should vote for an Tslamic theocracy. Any good socialist should be anti-EU therefore you should vote for Nigel Farage's Brexit party or Sargon's UKIP. Eat shit and die you fucking cocksucker.

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

Lmfao Brexit was 100% about racism and nationalism.
maybe the mainstream right-wing brexiteering was, but there was also a strong element of protest, of people voting against the status quo no matter what the other option. And you can't ignore the long tradition of leftwing Euroscepticism in the UK. The Labour party was the more EU-critical of the two main parties in Britain for a long time, and Corbyn for example comes from this Eurosceptical Bennite left-labour tradition.

Carter Edwards
Carter Edwards

Opposition to monarchism is a necessary part of capitalism. You cannot be a capitalist if you don't oppose it.
Totally wrong, you spaz, and it wouldn't disprove my point even if so. Take a course in logic.

Lmfao Brexit was 100% about racism and nationalism
Wrong. I am pro-Brexit and against those things, and there are plenty of examples ITT of people and parties who are the same.

Eat shit and die you fucking cocksucker.
Butthurt little faggot.

John Cox
John Cox

Lmfao Brexit was 100% about racism and nationalism.
Go home, COINTELPRO, we see trough your lies

Cameron Turner
Cameron Turner

neolib, how? more like neorealist geopolitics if anything.
Why the fuck should I still for European monopoly capitalists against American monopoly capitalists? Do you even know the most basic communist positions?
For what it's worth, an EU military would actually prevent interventionism
It hasn't so far, and it won't. You don't need a united military, you can use the militarized nations like France to do the bombing like they did in Libya.

Also, bonus points for thinking imperialism = interventionism, you illiterate

Christian Hill
Christian Hill

Why the fuck should I still for European monopoly capitalists against American monopoly capitalists?
as I see it revolutionary defeatism really isn't in the cards right now. I'd rather a balance of power be maintained than to see a balkanised europe as a theater of great power competition. anyway you didn't really answer the question of how it is neoliberal rethoric but jumped to a whole another one.
It hasn't so far, and it won't. You don't need a united military, you can use the militarized nations like France to do the bombing like they did in Libya.
there is no EU military user. though it is true that individual states can and will use their own militaries unilaterally (and after brexit leaves EU with only something like 1,5 real militaries, the French position will be more prominent because of their hard power disparity in comparison to the rest of EU), an EU military would lessen the need to maintain such armies for individual member countries.
Also, bonus points for thinking imperialism = interventionism, you illiterate
very honest arguing user

Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

t fash sympathizing butt hurt whitetarian.

Lincoln Ramirez
Lincoln Ramirez

why? sure, it's just another bourgeois institution of political power, but where political power resides so must we.
The thing is that the EU is a giant beuocracy, the European Parliament if a giant rubber stamp. The EU is not a liberal democracy. This is why it can’t be reformed.

Matthew Flores
Matthew Flores

These figures make no since since firstly Sweden was never accepted to euro and secondly the vote on EU constitution was never accepted,implemented nor ratified. As for the Greece in terms of bailout the public vote was advisory and not legally binding.

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

As for the Greece in terms of bailout the public vote was advisory and not legally binding.
That doesn’t justify going against public opion.

John Gomez
John Gomez

I agree, but what could you expect form capitalist superstate construct like EU that is far more concerned with consolidation of financial markets than issues of labor? Despite the presence of multiple socdems in its parliament and European council EU has done nothing in terms of labor regulation across Europe while it has done everything at behest of industry,agriculture and finance markets.

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

EU is currently building new ministry in charge of EU labour:
consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/labour-mobility/eu-labour-authority/

Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

I vote the MLPD! Everyone from Germany should vote them!

Cooper Jenkins
Cooper Jenkins

Was Die Linke not good enough?

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

I am an accelerationist so I will vote far right

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Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

Kapitel G - Weg und Ziel der Befreiung der Arbeiterklasse und der Befreiung der Frau in Deutschland
<working class and the woman
Discarded. DKP does not have this BS iirc

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

The party which is unironically using the "not real socialism" meme as their main line?

Jaxson Perry
Jaxson Perry

you're a retard.
t. accelerationist

Wyatt Scott
Wyatt Scott

Die Linke?! Haha, they aren't even communists, idot…

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

DKP is a pathetic joke! The MLPD is much better and if you are a communist, you should support the abolition of traditional gender roles!

Isaac Adams
Isaac Adams

Are you a member of them?

Anthony Carter
Anthony Carter

No, why?

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

Can you explain, what you like about the MLPD?

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

Yes and? You didn’t answer my question.

Luis Cooper
Luis Cooper

I'm not for the MLPD but to pay devil's advocate they are staunch anti-revisionist and refuse to work with class collaborationist unions and stuff. They also do a lot of international work. From a pragmatical perspective, they aren't overaged and poor like DKP and have enough money to actually get on the ballot for every election. They also "trigger the libs" with their Stalin posters in rich neighbourhoods.

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

Because that communist party is revisionist and communist only in name. The fact is, vote or don't, it doesn't make a difference. Matter of the EU are matters of the bourgeoisie, its their institution, they ultimately decide what happens and what doesn't. The EU has no relevance for the proletariat.

Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

vote DKP lads

Daniel Perez
Daniel Perez

not voting for Corbyn
smh tbh

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Justin Lee
Justin Lee

Not really. Individual revolutions in individual countries didn't happen, it happened just in one. Imagine the october revolution, but happening in the EU. Most of Europe going red in one mighty swing. That is why communists should support a stronger connection of the Eu. Revolutionary times will come soon enough.

Nicholas Murphy
Nicholas Murphy

I am an accelerationist
No, you're not.

Liam Sullivan
Liam Sullivan

you are delusional

Sebastian Ross
Sebastian Ross

Well, perhaps. But ATM any idea about how to make a communist revolution is delusional.

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

anyone seriously presenting themselves as as a Marxist Leninist in the current year has got to get a reality check

anyone calling themselves leftist while denouncing the first even worker's state should hang themselves

Christian Taylor
Christian Taylor

You can't vote for Corbyn though. The actual candidates all love the EU and most of what you hear from Labour spokespeople would make you think the party opposes Brexit. i don't blame Corbyn because he has to keep the party together, but in this context a vote for Labour is a vote against Brexit.

'I will vote Labour, because I believe ultimately that Labour will be counted on the anti-Farage side of the ledger' - Tony Blair
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/11/farage-cannot-be-allowed-to-dictate-britains-future-he-must-be-thwarted

Austin Brown
Austin Brown

Eh it depends, a lot of momentum candidates got put onto Labour lists: especially in London.

Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

I didn't think Momentum supported Brexit.

Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

They shifted to Lexit now.

Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett

Source?

Kevin Bailey
Kevin Bailey

I went to a Momentum even in Manchester where they were advocating Lexit. Sorry there isn't one article I can point to, it's more a gradual, incohesive chance in stance.

Camden Rodriguez
Camden Rodriguez

In short: Ultraleft larpers

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

What does ultraleft mean? You are either a communist who wants to abolish private property and overthrow the bourgeoisie, or you are just a stupid wage slave who accepts capitalism, you morons!

Austin Turner
Austin Turner

What does ultraleft mean?

Read Lenin's "Left-wing communism: An infantile disorder"

Caleb Gray
Caleb Gray

I already did and? Why are the MLPD members larpers? They named themselves after Lenin.

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

They reject all socialist states, which weren't/aren't led by Stalin or Mao. Similar like Trots, they actually take side with the class enemy, instead of defending actual existing socialism. And beside that, their excessive dogmatism scares away the masses. In the end, a communist party without any connection to the masses/normies, stops being a party of the working people.

Yes, the DKP is by no means a perfect party. But they have a significantly better connection to the working class, than the MLPD. You can call the DKP revisionist, but in regard to the material conditions of this country, their program is more realistic.

Jaxson Hill
Jaxson Hill

PCTP/MRPP

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

First, the MLPD has more voters than the DKP, so they obviously have a better connection to the masses.
Second, you are a stupid, opportunistic piece of shit! They are Marxist-Leninists, so they have a a clear ideology and that is exactly what communism is about! The DKP is revisionist and therefore trash!

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

*or PCP. I still haven't decided. PCP has been letting me down massively

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

First, the MLPD has more voters than the DKP, so they obviously have a better connection to the masses.

Ok, how many seats does the MLPD has in the parliament? Atleast, the DKP is represented in some communal parliaments in the northern part of Ruhrgebiet, like Gladbeck, Bottrop or Mörfelden-Walldorf.

they have a a clear ideology and that is exactly what communism is about!

Yeah, at this point, they aren't better than SGP. No political praxis, just verbal radicalism. This is surely what communism is about.

Kevin Gray
Kevin Gray

They reject all socialist states, which weren't/aren't led by Stalin or Mao
Ultras would never support Stalin or Mao lmao

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

There isn't much of a difference when you are practically ultraleftists who just happened to have a different historical assessment of Stalin and Mao. Leftcoms support Lenin but reject Stalin, MLMs support Stalin but reject Khrushchev, but since all of these people are dead they are practically the same in terms of praxis (same shitty arguments about not-real-socialism).

Chase Harris
Chase Harris

Do not vote in EU elections. It's really important to drive voting to 0% so people realise we don't need to be part of european union. It's neo-liberal trade union and it's reformist to vote in it.

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

Ok, how many seats does the MLPD has in the parliament? Atleast, the DKP is represented in some communal parliaments in the northern part of Ruhrgebiet, like Gladbeck, Bottrop or Mörfelden-Walldorf.
The MLPD has more voters, idiot.
Yeah, at this point, they aren't better than SGP. >No political praxis, just verbal radicalism.
This is surely what communism is about.
They exist since 1982. And the DKP is a pathetic boomer party with revisionists. And yes, communism is radical, kill yourself!

Oliver Walker
Oliver Walker

It's neo-liberal trade union
True, but why shouldn't we vote? If you vote a communist party, you are hurting the system from within.

Jayden Perry
Jayden Perry

You can't achive Socialism within EU. So first logical step to building Socialism is to leave EU.

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Cry some more.

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

No arguments, only personal insults. Good job at defending the Mlpd

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

tbh some attempt has to be made before taking your ball and going home…

Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

I had 4 arguments against your pathetic DKP and you are the one crying here. Nobody votes the DKP, moron.

Lincoln Reyes
Lincoln Reyes

I didn't said that you can achive Socialism within the EU, i said that it can hurt the EU from within.

William Bailey
William Bailey

I'll vote for this guy, he's an EU candidate from the furthest left party in Denmark.
There have been a couple of debates, I attended one of them recently and it was a complete demoralizing shitshow.
The liberal party went on about how people like Greta(young climate activist) and the youth are being panicky and the xenophobe old-people party literally talked about using "logic and reason" instead of feelings.
Other than that, everyone but the far-lefties seemed to agree that the climate needs to be addressed but by negotiating and policies.
It was nice to see this guy and the other lefty anti-EU lady actually have the balls to challenge the EU as a neoliberal system despite the "hurr look at brexit" remarks.

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Kayden Cruz
Kayden Cruz

Whatever, be happy with you maoist sect.

Ryder Allen
Ryder Allen

Of making European Union socialist? It will never happen.

Leo Brooks
Leo Brooks

You will go to the gulag!

Josiah Diaz
Josiah Diaz

Why take part in system that is rigged against you? There is nothing to gain.

Brody Roberts
Brody Roberts

Bourgeois society is rigged against us in the first place, small victories are possible and better than nothing.

Adam Young
Adam Young

If you vote a communist party, you are not participating in the capitalist system, you are harming the capitalist system from within.

Liam Murphy
Liam Murphy

Keep on screeching, you autistic larper. Everybody else who is intersted in actual communist politics and not pseudo-radicalism, vote DKP.

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Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Yeah, comrades. Vote a revisionist, opportunistic, unsuccessful boomer party…

Dylan Hughes
Dylan Hughes

No not really harming at all since it makes European Union seem more popular than it really is, since they can just say so many people voted. We have absolutely nothing to gain from EU and furthermore most communist parties that take part in EU elections are Euro-Communist rather than ML. It also makes people think that reforms are option rather than revolution. That said elections are great way to get publicity but not on EU elections since you have close to zero say on any action even If you happen to be most popular party in your country and anyway If that's the case you should already be out so no need to even think it like that and anyway then we are back at my first point. Why give them popularity when you can choose not to.

Jason Cook
Jason Cook

Calls DKP "revisionist"
"Not real socialism"

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Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

What they mean is that socialism must have a clear ideology, you stupid piece of shit! Go to the gulag!

Blake Jenkins
Blake Jenkins

most communist parties that take part in EU elections are Euro-Communist rather than ML
I am not talking about parties like "Die Linke", because they are not real communists, I am talking about real communist parties. And I didn't said that voting will bring about a communist revolution. What I meant is that it is just a tactic to infiltrate the EU!

Brayden Nguyen
Brayden Nguyen

Kapitel F
13. "…Eine materielle Quelle der verschiedensten revisionistischen Theorien und ihrer Verbreitung sind heute Staaten wie China, Vietnam, Kuba oder Nordkorea, die unter der Flagge des Sozialismus/Kommunismus in Wirklichkeit die Restauration des Kapitalismus vollzogen haben."

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

CPGB-ML
that party is literally a meme

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

anything has the hungarian workers party listed as a member is instatnly the most revisionist thing ever. Sorry to dissapoint you, but if this party allows Munkáspárt to be within their ranks they're fucking Kruschevites and if you think otherwise you're either a liberal or a Kruschevite.

Noah Perry
Noah Perry

Yes and what is wrong with that statement? All these states are no longer communist.

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

The problem isn't even that they make the argument that all these states weren't real socialism, the problem is that they believe the Maoist bullshit about the USSR turning capitalist and changing their entire mode of production because Khrushchev held a speech where he said Stalin did some bad stuff.

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

Because it is true! Khrushchev initiated the de-Stalinization. He was a piece of shit, that deserved to be tortured and slaughtered, just like you!

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

Why don't you just join the MLPD, instead of discussing with us revisionist meanies?

Isaac Roberts
Isaac Roberts

Why don't you pathetic boomers of the DKP kill yourselves?

Benjamin Cooper
Benjamin Cooper

Let me guess: You are a autistic keyboard warrior who will never do anything political

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

Let me guess: you are a fat boomer who thinks being a communist means being a pacifist coward who only criticizes capitalism.

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

Ok, jokes aside. Why don't you join the MLPD?

Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

Why do you ask?

Isaac Martinez
Isaac Martinez

Just out of curiosity. You are interested in them, why don't you join them?

Elijah Long
Elijah Long

My first post in this thread but…

Momentum in North Oxfordshire and Oxfordshire supported Remain and even my current branch in Leicester supports Remain.

I'm voting Labour anyway because Labour will get more funding with more EU seats which they need to win the next general election with and you know the media will only want to harp on how Labour GTFO if they lose votes or seats.

Asher Howard
Asher Howard

I`m really torn on whom I should vote for since the options are so bad. On one hand I`m fully aware what a neoliberal shitshow the current union is but I`d rather not vote for nationalist and reactionary parties just because of this and I still hold onto the pan-European idealism and would like to see strong unified federal European superstate on the world stage.

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

why not simply vote for Finnish communist party?

Adam Green
Adam Green

Because I'm too busy killing capitalists and fucking their wives!

Andrew Cox
Andrew Cox

Because he is a stupid socdem.

James Thomas
James Thomas

That would be same as not voting at all since they have no change of getting even one MEP trough.

Bentley Myers
Bentley Myers

That's still much better than voting for right-wingers imo.

Jaxson Moore
Jaxson Moore

Is the Left Alliance really that bad?

Lincoln Jones
Lincoln Jones

What do you guys think about GUE/NGL? Do they have good praxis in trying to reform EU from within?

Aiden Perry
Aiden Perry

If you're looking to reform capitalism, look no further:
europeanspring.net/

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

To be frank no. Their plans are like "RENEGOTIATE THE TREATIES" and that's about it.
You can dislike Varoufakis, call him a social democrat, a sell-out or whatever, but he at-least has a plan tbh.

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

Bump. Are you guys sleeping? The results just came in.

Josiah Diaz
Josiah Diaz

Get dabbed on ddrinosaurs, GREEN WAVE TIME

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Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

Smug_farmer_pepe.jpg

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Lucas Bailey
Lucas Bailey

Thanks I have to vomit now

Brody King
Brody King

Those Anderen votes
Lol we are gonna see some meme parties enter the European Parliament from Germany.

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

Le Pen beat Macron
Fuck man.

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Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

Didn't the Greens get rid of Nuclear and replaced them with coal plants?

Jaxson Brown
Jaxson Brown

Lignite, which is even worse.
The whole Germanic "Green" movement is based in anti-nuclearism, not climate activism.

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

me too. fucking bourgeois-liberal greens and their massive mainstream media support. even springer was shilling for them like crazy. also kipping ruined die linke, as expected.

france looks depressing as well. fascists 23%, macron 22%, mélenchon scores only 7%.

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

why the hell is Melenchon's party so small?

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

These are actually gains from their result (they got 5, so they are predicted 1-3 gains). Mostly it's because Melenchon has a large level of support in the public but his party doesn't command it.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

also kipping ruined die linke, as expected.

fucking hate her guts. i still voted for the linke but ah we only got 5.5% - embarassing. i hope a new populist leftist movement starts soon or else we're going to be absolutely irrelevant. the left party is killing themselves with idpol and liberalism. people love wagenknecht and gysi and yet we get kipping and other lib fucks.

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

He lost some popularity since the last election and a lot of far left people here do not care for the EU at all

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

Animal Activist Party
Satirical lib party named The Party
Pirate Party
VOLT which is some lib EU shit AFAIK
Family Party
ÖDP which is like eco-conservatism

Jayden Fisher
Jayden Fisher

Golden Dawn is failing hard
Our soc-dems and KKE is rising
I don’t want to jinx anything so let’s not get i to details
Varoufakis could even get in the euro parliament kids

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Caleb Long
Caleb Long

I don't think MeRA will get a seat, Varoufakis might get one in Germany tho. His French and Danish (G.s & Alternative) allies aren't getting in, DiEM25 appears to have failed.

Levi Evans
Levi Evans

Golden Dawn is failing hard
I have no idea how anyone thought it would go otherwise, literal gypsies and thugs LARPing.
That video with three of their members being shot always brings a smile to my face.

Liam Davis
Liam Davis

die partei is not really liberal, they're nowadays more like the spd under lafontaine used to be for a while, sonneborn recently said so recently unironically. i actually considered voting them for a while.

fucking hate her guts
same here. she has the bourgeois media behind her and with all those new feminists, libs and antigerman zionists a fairly large powerbase inside the party. wagenknecht and lafo need to leave this sinking ship and start something different. even the left wing of the spd is more /lefty/ than kipping now ffs.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

Unironicly their main voterbase seems to be in gypsie ghettos
A christcuck russian spy is also gaining some votes

Nicholas Hall
Nicholas Hall

According to the latest results, only 79% of French votes actually went to parties reaching the 5% threshold.
IMAGINE HOLDING ELECTIONS WHERE 21% OF ALL VOTES ARE WASTED.
THIS POST WAS MADE BY NATURAL THRESHOLD GANG

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

voted GUE/NGL

did i do good?

David Martin
David Martin

I voted ENF

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Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

How many hours until we get some final results?

Hudson James
Hudson James

So in the fight against climate change instead of things staying the same or even regressing with more reactionaries rising to power in the EU we get the worst possible outcome a false sense of progress and empty rhetoric with the greens.

The planet and humanity is nosediving even faster after these elections, but maybe the general populous is little bit more sedated regarding the imminent climate collapse.

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Levi Fisher
Levi Fisher

Ur a faggit.

Leo Diaz
Leo Diaz

no u

John Fisher
John Fisher

Greek here, let me shed some light
Golden Dawn is failing hard
not exactly, they simply split because velopoulos made his own party. they got 9.5% in the last elections, now velopoulos and golden dawn got 5% each. it's mixed feelings really, the number of fascists remains the same but they are now divided. Also, elliniki lisi (velopoulos) isn't as active in the streets and doesn't organize golden dawn style sturmabteilungs that attack and murder leftists and immigrants.
Our soc-dems and KKE is rising
KKE didn't rise, it was at those same % in the last elections. KINAL is a coalition around PASOK, which is another pro-nato, capitalist party and applied the same IMF austerity policies ND applied.

Caleb Walker
Caleb Walker

At 88% vote count.

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Austin Bailey
Austin Bailey

Honestly must be fucking shit to be a Hungarian.

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

a false sense of progress and empty rhetoric with the greens.
of course, even the most radical don't realize how badly shit is fucked and how much we'd have to do near overnight to even slow down the greatest catastrophe the human race has yet faced

Matthew Roberts
Matthew Roberts

Velopoulos has most of the boomer LAOS votes from the indepedent greeks
Also Varoufakis is very successful for a newcomer

Julian White
Julian White

yep

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Thomas Anderson
Thomas Anderson

Honestly thought you lot has something with that labour militancy back in January but it just died. Real shame.

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

You don't know how it feels to hear 'muh soros' from the media constantly. It's a complete nightmare.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

Tbf I imagine that's why i know so many Hungarians at uni.

Eli Jenkins
Eli Jenkins

Whenever in Hungary there's the slightest hope of class consciousness rising the bourgeois parties make sure to capture the momentum and reroute the energies towards impotent anti-orbánism. Until we have a competent communist party that isn't purely fueled by 20th century nostalgia or that isn't diluted by socdems/anarchists/redlibs there's no hope.

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

Lol the Greens may overtake the hard-right (Le Pen, Salvini, AfD).

Liam Taylor
Liam Taylor

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Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

Why do you vote for DieLinke when there are three communist parties on the ballot?
Gysi
Ah yes this crusty old fucker. I remember him shilling for the end of the GDR back when he was in the SED and how he hid himself in the fucking toilet when some DieLinke delegates invited Max Blumenthal.

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

That's just a prediction from polls, nothing official.

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

DiEM25 appears to have failed
On one hand I kinda like Varoufakis so that's sad on the other hand maybe this exorcises his terminal reformism out of him. Really didn't expect them to fail though, maybe it was a stupid idea to have him run in Germany, a country where he not only doesn't speak the language but also had his character assassinated years ago in a racist smear campaign.

Josiah Brooks
Josiah Brooks

Where did you get this? It's illegal to release results before voting ends in Italy at 23:00.

Easton Smith
Easton Smith

Well it's not even that, Varoufakis aligned himself with four parties: the Danish Greens, the French G.s, Polish Razem, and Czech Pirates. Now the first three have failed to enter the EUParl, and the last one left DiEM25. He has failed to form a pan-European movement as he hoped, which is a real shame. He still might enter in Germany though, the issue with exit polls there is that they tend to miss the microparties that weren't expected to win seats.

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

/voros/index.html

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

magyarnemzet.hu/belfold/tortenelmi-veresegek-az-ellenzeknel-6964229/

Bentley Taylor
Bentley Taylor

I'm already using it, but thanks anyway.

John Hughes
John Hughes

The state of politics is one of the reasons for Hungarians emigrating, but the main one is low wages.

Fun fact: the second biggest Hungarian city in the world is London.

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

Fun fact: the second biggest Hungarian city in the world is London.
Wow. I mean tbf we did get a lot of Hungarian refugees from WWII (a lot of them jews), and from '56 (I mean GOOORRRKKKAAAAAAAAAA is one of them). But yeah, really common to find Hungarian students and Hungarian immigrant families (mostly working middle class professional jobs) in the UK. Also lol they tend to be leftwing, like the Hungarians I know are into soviet shit.

Parker Bell
Parker Bell

Velopoulos has most of the boomer LAOS votes from the indepedent greeks
No, velopoulos has whatever golden dawn votes didn't go to ND

Also Varoufakis is very successful for a newcomer
Varoufakis isn't anti-capitalist in any sense, so I don't get how he's relevant.

Christian Wood
Christian Wood

twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1132752563206594562
Tsipras calls a snap election
SOME FUCKING BIG DICK ENERGY RIGHT HERE

Joshua Peterson
Joshua Peterson

Italy, SWG exit poll:

LEGA-ENF: 27-30%
PD-S&D: 22.5-24.5%
M5S-EFDD: 21.5-23.5%
FI-EPP: 9-11%
FdI-ECR: 5-6%

Levi Murphy
Levi Murphy

BReAKinG NOoz
Bourgeois elections conclude. Working class fucked over.
MorE aT sIx

Gabriel Turner
Gabriel Turner

Pic is the current election results for the parliamentary elections here in Belgium. Two most important ones to look at are Vlaams Belang and PTB-PvdA.

– Parties –
- N-VA: Right-wing party. Flemish nationalist.
- PS: Walloon sucdem party. Lately been involved in corruption scandals.
- Vlaams Belang: Far-right reactionary Flemish nationalist party. Winning a big victory right now. Other parties have promised to never enter into coalition with them, but it's predicted that there'll be voices for N-VA to pull back from that promise now. Although it's unlikely to happen just yet, it might in the future, which is terrifying.
- MR: Walloon liberals.
- ECOLO: Walloon greens. Pretty big victory.
- CD&V: Flemish christian democrats. Losing because no one cares about christian democrats anymore.
- Open VLD: Flemish liberals.
- PTB*PVDA: Marxist party. Used to be traditional Marxist-Leninist party but moved away from that after the fall of the USSR. Big victory. Two seats turned into twelve by the looks of it.
- sp.a: Flemish sucdems.
- CDH: Walloon christian democrats.
- DéFI: Small Walloon liberal party. Who gives a fuck?

Obviously some mixed feelings about this, but generally happy that the PvdA is making progress.

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Jonathan Diaz
Jonathan Diaz

(me)
Whoops, skipped over Groen. You can probably guess who these guys are. It's been a disappointingly small victory for them.

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

Syriza rage quits. Early election announced in Greece

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Tyler White
Tyler White

I knew a Hungarian girl in the U.S. who had resting bitch face all the time and was really lefty and also hated fat people – because let me tell you, we've got a lot of 'em!!!

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

Hot as fuck too like dayum and I'm gay

Camden Brown
Camden Brown

- PTB*PVDA: Marxist party. Used to be traditional Marxist-Leninist party but moved away from that after the fall of the USSR. Big victory. Two seats turned into twelve by the looks of it.
Are they going to destroy the dutch reactionary separatists through unity?
Now I'm a bit jealous

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

just u fucking w8 boyo

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Gabriel Moore
Gabriel Moore

First half was supposed to reply to

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

Are they going to destroy the dutch reactionary separatists through unity?
Not yet. Some day though…
Honestly I'm not that upset with the reactionaries as long as the far-left is growing too.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

because DKP didn't have a chance of passing over the threshold and i dont care about "stalin is the cause of every ill in the world" SGP or "rojava is great" MLPD

Samuel Butler
Samuel Butler

Austria: bmi.gv.at/412/Europawahlen/Europawahl_2019/
Bulgaria: results.cik.bg/ep2019/index.html
Croatia: izbori.hr/rezultati/
Czech Republic: volby.cz/index_en.htm
Denmark: kmdvalg.dk/Main/Home/EV
Estonia: ep2019.valimised.ee/et/elected-members/index.html
Germany: bundeswahlleiter.de/en/index.html
Greece: ekloges.ypes.gr/current/e/home/en/
Hungary: valasztas.hu/ep2019
Italy: elezioni.interno.gov.it/europee/scrutini/20190526/scrutiniEI
Ireland: rte.ie/news/elections-2019/results/?app=true#/european/dublin
Lithuania: vrk.lt/2019-europos-parlamento/rezultatai?srcUrl=/rinkimai/904/2/1548/rezultatai/lt/rezultataiEpDaugmVrt.html
Luxembourg: elections.public.lu/en.html
Portugal: europeias2019.mai.gov.pt/
Romania: prezenta.bec.ro/europarlamentare26052019/romania-counties
Slovenia: volitve.gov.si/ep2019/en/#/rezultati
Spain: resultados.eleccioneslocaleseuropeas19.es/#/es/eu/resultados/total
Sweden: data.val.se/val/ep2019/prelresultat/E/rike/index.html
Official EU site with estimated results by nation: election-results.eu/
AFP Election Center: interactive.afp.com/European-elections-results_586

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

There is no threshold and if you keep voting for shit nothing will change.

I mean, if we can't even get communists to vote for a communist party, then who the fuck are we going to get to vote for us at all? We might as well just dissolve, capitalism will kill us all, good job.

Even fucking 0,5% would actually help - with everything really.

Jose Scott
Jose Scott

So how is the Left doing in your country? Sucks to see Die Linke loses % though. Hopefully the old and new leader can get their shit together to work something out

Kayden Lewis
Kayden Lewis

Remoaners deciding to treat the EU election as a second referendum have United the pro-Brexit electorate behind Farage and given him the largest party. Congratulations on an epic footbullet, mongoloids.

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Why so much shilling for socdems itt?

Ian Bailey
Ian Bailey

Technically the pure Remain parties have roughly around the same weigh-age if not more than pure Brexit parties though…

Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

Indeed, the votes are certainly close but the vote has split far more for remain. Remains biggest victory seems to be in uniting leave into a single camp against them

Caleb White
Caleb White

elections

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Brody Lee
Brody Lee

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Angel Perry
Angel Perry

These elections really make me want to kill myself. My country just voted massively for an openly self declared fascist.
The only opposition to him is the usual liberal capitalist party. Followed by more populist fascists, conaervative corrupt as fuck liberals and a party that is the literal continuation of our fascist party after it got banned post war.
All the actual left wing parties didn't get even 1% and NONE even got a single seat.
Fucking hell I'm really depressed and I'm strongly considering moving.
You can complain about greens all you want, but at least your country didn't vote en masse for a fascist because muh immigrants.

Any suggestions on where to move that is more socialist friendly?

Christian Carter
Christian Carter

where to move
Move to capital. Join communist party. Start organizing.

Don't forget that most (if not all) communist parties are massive eurosceptics which attend euroelections only to block more liberal reforms and increase class consciousness.

Charles Myers
Charles Myers

Here are the votes of all parties of Germany.
bundeswahlleiter.de/europawahlen/2019/ergebnisse/bund-99.html

I think I going to become a third-worldist. It really makes me sick to see, that every meme party like "LIEBE" or "Die Frauen" get more votes than the communist parties.

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Kevin Rodriguez
Kevin Rodriguez

My capital voted massively for liberals and fascists. Communists got 1.6%
This place is doomed

Robert Green
Robert Green

capital cities newer get majority communist, people there get the most benefit of capital centralization. But it's still most populous city in your state so there are the biggest opportunities to spread marxist propaganda.

Or idk, try to spread marxist propaganda by the internet. Go to wikipedia and edit all articles on anarchy in your language, that should help get more edgy teens to our case. Set up google alerts on words such as "communist" on articles in your country and point out they have it opposite, as proven by countries of washaw pact, that could help some readers to see a little bit more of ideology.

Jaxon James
Jaxon James

I did all of that. I plastered 10 thousand flyers that I printed myself all over the city. I spend my days making contributions online to left wing online magazines and forums. I participated in promotion events to talk to people about communism, socialism and our communist party. All I got in exchange are insults and even had a guy "accidentally" spill his beer on me after I approached him to talk.
I guess I'm just tired of being treated like dirt by the average person just because I want to help them

Justin Edwards
Justin Edwards

Heyyy if you find a left-wing country to emigrate to text me i'm also getting tired of ma patrie

Aiden Peterson
Aiden Peterson

oh shit, I'm sorry comrade. I had no idea.

Blake Ward
Blake Ward

That's fucking sad and thankfully this isn't how I perceived it in Krautland. Most people are interested and civil, but they are also being apathic, you can have a nice conversation with them but they won't vote for you anyway. I never had a guy attacking me or insulting me, the worst thing that happened was a security guard that gave me shits for distributing flyers in front of a mall despite us having a permission from the city.

Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem.
Thanks comrade. I was considering moving to Germany. Sure, Linke decreased slightly, but green voters would be fairly receptive to socialist arguments. At least there is some hope for the future. In my country the youth split between the far right and the populists by a 75% margin. We are so fucking doomed

James Evans
James Evans

Man, I seriously wish to move there. It fucking sucks here in Italy as a lefty.
The people that voted for our equivalent of SPD, liberals mind you, are convinced to be leftists. They will all tell you they voted PD because our former minister of interior stopped migrants and because the EU common market is fundamental. They are literally fucking retarded and beyond infuriating

Carter Peterson
Carter Peterson

and the xenophobe old-people party literally talked about using "logic and reason" instead of feelings.
it's fucking sad how Danish political culture fell for rhetoric by fucking youtubers.
There's more of this shit like Pia Kjaersgaard stopping a debate because the other side used the word racist, without letting him speak as to why he used the word. There's nobody whose feelings matter more over facts than these retards'.

Ian Gomez
Ian Gomez

Today, all of you are my friends. Yes, even the MLPD-fag

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Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

So the only positive thing is that the """left""" stil has 30 seats more than the right in total? Or is there a country where the far left succeeded?

Christopher Campbell
Christopher Campbell

No communist party ran here (Wales) so I voted for the Brexit Party. I'd only vote for the CPGB-ML, CPB or Socialist Labour Party anyway.

Destroying the EU is of the utmost importance for the working class, not just in Britain, but across Europe.

Jace Cox
Jace Cox

That was the correct option, user.

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

Macron popular with the old fucks as infuriating as predictable

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Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

Congrats, you elected a fucking outsourcing porky. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Gill
He founded and managed Burgill Ltd in March 2004, with his mother Elaine.[5][6] Registered in Llangefni, Anglesey, but operating solely in Kingston upon Hull, the company provided domiciliary and home care services mainly to Hull City Council. The company employed 180 staff,[2] chiefly from central Europe (mainly Poland) and the Philippines, to which they optionally provided chargeable "bunkhouse"-style accommodation.
Cut a tank…

William Hill
William Hill

Or is there a country where the far left succeeded?

greece and portugal if we are modest with what we consider the far left. other than that, no.

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

I was considering moving to Germany. Sure, Linke decreased slightly, but green voters would be fairly receptive to socialist arguments.

nah man. greens are more conservative than you think over here. it's one half conservatives who feel bad about polluting and the other half is idpol libs. you'd have a better chance talking to socialism with SPD, Linke, Pirates, non-voters, even AfD than with most Greens.

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

Belgium too

Jaxson King
Jaxson King

We have fucked up so badly. On one hand you have the liberals/left-wing fascists that occupy 30% of the votes (En Marche/Les Verts) and on the other we have literal right-wing reactionnaries that occupies about another 30% of the vote. The other remaining third is divided between irrelevant liberals, retarded wannabe mainstream socdems (Gen S/PS/FI) ~15% and the traitorous "communist" parties ~3% (PCF which isn't even ML anymore, LO are Trotskyist reactionnaries).
The only really good party was the Parti révolutionnaire Communistes (hardcore ML) but they were literally at the bottom end of the results (less than 0,1%).

Duhhr learn to play Realpolitik!!11!1
There's no point in continuing to play the "democratic" game, the Overton window has moved too far right, all the remaining parties are a different shade of yellow now. What is to be needed is a violent take over and the purging of all indesirables elements.

Are you Dutch ? I heard the guy from FvD posed with Mein Kampf and is still scoring very high.
Beside, I'm sorry for you user, I hope things gets better.

I don't know whenever to be more angered at the boomers voting En Marche or at the retarded youngsters voting Les Verts. What does an ecologic party is even supposed to be ?

Jayden Mitchell
Jayden Mitchell

we need a genuine, europe-wide movement of democratic socialists who are both serious about the democracy and the socialism part: overcoming capitalism, stopping the privatization of public companies, instituting radical democracy both in politics and in the economy, modern technological aspects like eDemocracy and automatisation a la Cockshott, talking about how environmental protections and capitalism can't mix with each other, and so on - with NO retarded idpol that scares away most regular people.

the core can consist of regular communists, but we need a mass movement that is open to democratic socialism (think DSA, richard wolff) - that's all we can realistically get in the short-term. once we redpill people on class dynamics, exploitation of surplus value and other concepts we would have a healthy socialist movement going on, which is what we have been lacking since the 80s. for fuck's sake, there are probably more meme-anarchists in europe right now than there are socialists, let alone communists.

this way we can replace the left parties and make inroads with those currently voting for succdems and greens (as well as some voting for proto-fascists). i highly doubt the strategy of openly communist parties will work out to our favor in most countries. we need to instead just talk about democratic socialism, radical democracy, cybersocialism, socialism in the 21st century, neosocialism and other terms. think of succdem parties going back to their pre-rosa roots.

i see no other way we can have socialism in the first world in the mid-term. and if shit goes down the fan and we get a major crisis, we will already have laid the groundwork to turn many people fully red, which is something we can't seriously claim right now. if there is a major economic crisis in the 2020s, we will only have started to turn people socialist, but not be far along that we can actually seize power. think of the 1905 revolution as opposed to the 1917 revolution.

David Powell
David Powell

There's no point in continuing to play the "democratic" game, the Overton window has moved too far right, all the remaining parties are a different shade of yellow now. What is to be needed is a violent take over and the purging of all indesirables elements.

this is a LARP and we can only do this if we have mass support by at least 20% of the population or so, which we can't claim. our only hope is turning those retarded wannabe mainstream socdem parties further towards the left so that they turn into allende-esque demsuccs insteadd of succdems. everything else is just unrealistic. the left wing of those parties must consist of actual communists though.

Brayden Hernandez
Brayden Hernandez

i will argue that right now, the USA probably has more socialist energy going on that the entirety of europe with the exception of greece, portugal and belgium. we're falling behind and need to examine why.

the boomer communist parties of old aren't cutting it. we need new terminology, new aesthetics, a new marxism that is based on orthodox marxism (LTV, class dynamics, rate of profit falling and so on) but a continuation in the 21th century with a focus on technology, climate protection and mass democracy in the workplace like co-op shit or cockshott stuff like labor vouchers.

we can complain about muh evil trotskyists and muh reactionary MLPD parties as much as we want, in the end WE'RE going to be one's ending up against the wall if the fascists gain more ground, not them.

Adrian Powell
Adrian Powell

Don't vote for that party because the candidate is a nasty guy
Totally irrelevant.

Colton Hill
Colton Hill

This.
There's no left in Europe right now, and our communist parties are just LARPers and/or controlled opposition, is this trend continues, aside of being just more of a fucking joke, we're gonna end up at the wall.
And were are we gonna get this left from? The idpol-ridden leftists of reddit? The larpers which think they fought in Stalingrad? Or all of those people who are the new left, call themselves trendy titles but at the end are just traitors to the proletariat?
None of them will do it, none of them would do it, as their just the nice cop of capitalism.
There's only one option left unfortunately.
Us, shitposters from all parts of Europe, in a taiwanese feet fetishist board, are the people, the comrades, which need to stop capitalism, as we are the only ones that kinda understand Marxist theory, we are the only ones which need and could stop capitalism, as we're not satisfied with the statu quo, we ain't sheep.
Only us can actually do something about this.
Because of this, we need to make an European Union of Marxists, and united party, starting here, in the depths of the visible internet.
The only bringers of the revolution, right now, are us, no one else.

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Julian Turner
Julian Turner

Xi, rescue me from here! Please

David Mitchell
David Mitchell

God tier shitpost

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

with the exception of greece, portugal and belgium
what happened to the uk wasn't Corbyn popular and on an uptrend some months ago?

Matthew Carter
Matthew Carter

In Portugal it looks like these guys en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Communist_Party are dying (12.7% to 6.9%)
and these guys en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Bloc are growing (4.56% to 9.82%).

I have no idea who to support in th next more important elections in October, Left Bloc or PCP? Should one ride the Left Bloc popularity wave or should one try to save PCP from dying completely?

Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

This but unironically

Caleb Evans
Caleb Evans

Feminism[5]
hmm…

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

vote BE don't be a useful idiot

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

also support your local DKP and SDAJ groups!

Jayden Reyes
Jayden Reyes

shut the fuck up MLPD retard

Samuel Anderson
Samuel Anderson

unsurprisingly the feminists are also imperialists

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Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

Beyond this very short-term vision, a vision of the future for Venezuela can only be reached with free, participated, democratic elections and a political solution that mediates these elections”.
Pedro Filipe Soares also criticised the “political pressure from abroad, such as that promoted by Trump and Bolsonaro” and stated that neither Maduro nor Guaidó “have a clear legitimacy to rule Venezuela”.
It's from their official newspaper. Die Linke tier tbh

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Nicholas Wright
Nicholas Wright

Honestly this isn't a great take but it is not that bad tbh

Andrew Howard
Andrew Howard

Imagine voting for porkies then trying to justify it as a fucking marxist-leninist.
Holy shit you are all trash I swear down.

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

Doesn't know anything about British politics
All the options were porkies.

William Nelson
William Nelson

I am british you daft cunt.

Jordan Miller
Jordan Miller

Maduro was elected in a free and fair election and he has constitutional legitimacy. The reason it was lacking in participation is because part of the opposition boycotted it. Should they make voting mandatory? I can already hear them screaming about authoritarianism. Why are they not talking about the open class war and instead about liberal values? The only correct take is to tell the yankees to go home.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

Then your ignorance is even more embarrassing. Stay butthurt, chum.

Mason Taylor
Mason Taylor

Certainly something to think for the next election about user… I think people should be working in pushing BE to the left

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

Like I said it wasn't a great take by any means, but you two are getting triggered over something so mild.

Luke Butler
Luke Butler

They should have direct democracy

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

The ignorance of what? You vote for a party founded by a cityporky (Farage) funded by megaporkies (Banks) that stood a fucking Capita-tier outsourcing porky as its first candidate in your area (teh bloke I linked). Are you thick mate? Or is this just the regular mental gymnastics of a ☭TANKIE☭?

Brody Sullivan
Brody Sullivan

Mario, what a happened here a?

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Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

Geographic realignment of Italian politics: PD are the party of the Cities, LN are the party of the countryside, and M5S are the party of the South,

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

The ignorance of what
The ignorance of thinking that there was a non-porky option here. The only communist options in the UK were to vote pragmatically for the single-issue anti-EU party, or to abstain entirely. Getting hung up on the bad stuff the candidates have done is plain retarded.

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

are you implying anti-semitic neonazi LARPers are politically relevant?

They definitely are. They make up a significant base of people like Le Pen's supporters

Ayden Diaz
Ayden Diaz

So apparently the two biggest Italian cities are the countryside.

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

Yeah tbf when realignment happens is always like super clearcut and everywhere exactly goes where the general trend is. *nods*

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

I love how tanks always forget about their anti-reformism every time when they are faced with a geopolitical issue instead of a socio-economic one.

Isaac Rivera
Isaac Rivera

Geo-political issues are socio-economic issues you fag.

Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

Voting in the EU elections for a party that wants to destroy the EU is reformism

Easton Morales
Easton Morales

We are so fucking doomed. Lega is taking up everything and they are honest to god fascists. M5s are crypto fascists that go along everything lega does. PD voters are genuinely as bad as lega ones: they will tell you they are leftists and that they voted for PD (liberal capitalists) because they stopped migrants even before lega did, so the voters are basically fascists in denial. FI is berlusconi, enough said. FDI is literally the continuation of our fascist party. Actual left wingers are ALL below 1%.
Someone get me out of here I beg you

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

Porky vs. Porky is class struggle
neck yourself

Liam Hill
Liam Hill

Lega is taking up everything and they are honest to god fascists. M5s are crypto fascists
Lega are crypto-fascists, not actual fascists.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

voting for a party that wants capitalism without the EU is not reformism
I feel like a lot of people here just want to trigger the libs epic style.

Leo Sullivan
Leo Sullivan

literally every party is a porky party
but they want to retain the EU. ending it will be good for the working class

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

Who gives a fuck what they want 'without the EU' when they won't exist without the EU? And no, it isn't reformism when it doesn't involve reforming anything, only abolishing it. No reform is involved.

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

Tell me, how does exiting the EU abolish capitalism?

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

How do you propose to abolish capitalism without abolishing the EU?

Landon Young
Landon Young

I don't think that we should ever push for right-wing parties just because they want more economic independence, instead we should create our own parties which can achieve that. We can't just follow current political trends try to work within them. What we need to do is to create a vanguard which will take the lead and rearrange politics.

Camden Powell
Camden Powell

The Brexit Party is a single-issue party, dude. There's nothing inherently right-wing about it. And I would of course have voted for a left-wing pro-Brexit party if they hadn't all cucked out to Labour and refused to put candidates forward.

Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

The fuck are these supposed "centrists"?
marketwatch.com

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Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

The Brexit Party is a single-issue party, dude. There's nothing inherently right-wing about it.
Any party that doesn't claim to be left wing is right wing, no matter what they say about themselves.

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

Did I say that? No, I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you can't separate "geopolitical" issues from "socio-economic" issues like a liberal. You might as well say shit like "hurr durr we need to strengthen the middle class".

Liam Miller
Liam Miller

Do you really think bourgeois vanguard in America would let their European "allies" abolish capitalism, without strong entity like EU standing against them? That's why the focus should be on how to turn EU leftwards

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

If you think that Russian and Chinese Porkys care more about their workers than American Porkies your fooling yourself.
If European countries abolished Capitalism without the EU in place what would America do? Invade, lol, give me a break.

Charles Carter
Charles Carter

belgium

What is so good over in Belgium?

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

Let's just reform the EU!

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Hunter Richardson
Hunter Richardson

Greece: 93.8% of the votes are counted and Yanis Varoufakis's MeRa25 (GUE/NGL) is currently at 2.999% of the votes. The legal threshold in Greece to obtain a seat is 3%.
SEND HIM YOUR ENERGY ANONS

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Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

They should just round that shit up tbh…

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

TAKE MY ENERGY GREEK JESUS

Nolan James
Nolan James

Look up Worker's Party of Belgium

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

Greece: 98.19% of the vote counted and Yanis Varoufakis's MeRa25 (GUE/NGL) is 453 short of a seat in the European Parliament.
JUST A LITTLE MORE

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Caleb Carter
Caleb Carter

Please please please

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

Muh quick take.
1) EPP and S&D lost their combined majority, so they have to rely on ALDE now.
2) Point 1) makes G O D E M P E R O R I V P I T E R the kingmaker for the next Commission.
3) He already said he's not ok with the EPP official candidate Manfred Weber - basically because he's German - becoming the next President and he's pushing for
a) Michel Barnier, who's good for him because he's French and he's EPP, and that would keep that group quiet
or
b) Margrethe Vestager, who's ALDE - which makes Manu happy - and Danish, which would be a "neutral" compromise between France and Germany, but also politically between EPP and S&D.
Obviously, if Germany doesn't get any sexy job right now, the next ECB boss will be one of them, Jens Weidmann, after Super Mario Draghi finishes his jobs in November.

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Parker Lee
Parker Lee

Margrethe Vestager
Ah! Forgot to say she has bonus points as muh gender balance. Christ! Manu is so progressive and forward-looking!

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

Hungry?

Josiah Young
Josiah Young

He is not gonna make it is he?

Joshua Long
Joshua Long

Did he make it?

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

I will torture and kill you retarded, revisionist faggots!

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

With 2.99% of the vote, left-wing MeRA25 (GUE/NGL) fails to pass the 3% legal election threshold. The party of Yanis Varoufakis needed just 392 more votes to gain a seat in the next EU Parliament.
Press F to pay respects.

Brayden Diaz
Brayden Diaz

F

Was a good first try. Hope it works out for him.

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

u r funny

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

Given the choice between anti immigrant parties and socdems the anti immigrant party is the better choice

Daniel Miller
Daniel Miller

what about anti immigrant socdems

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Michael Scott
Michael Scott

preferable to pro immigrant socdems

William Ross
William Ross

Her ideological shift has only embolden the anti-immigrant rhetoric so much that there are 2 more far-right parties. And the biggest gains made in this election cycle is the centrist liberal party so pretty terrible tactical move.

Jeremiah Bailey
Jeremiah Bailey

Her ideological shift has only embolden the anti-immigrant rhetoric so much that there are 2 more far-right parties. And the biggest gains made in this election cycle is the centrist liberal party so pretty terrible tactical move.
aaaand?

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

kill yourself

boosting far right and liberal parties is not a problem
kill yourself

Benjamin Reyes
Benjamin Reyes

And this isn't the optimal way to shift the country left by validating the anti-immigrant fascist? For. No. Tactical. Gains.

Nathan Gray
Nathan Gray

boosting far right and liberal parties is not a problem
there are no other viable alternatives

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

And this isn't the optimal way to shift the country left by validating the anti-immigrant fascist? For. No. Tactical. Gains.
Reforms do not "shift a country left"

Anthony Flores
Anthony Flores

At least it won’t feed anti-immigrant right wingers dumbass.

Alexander Jenkins
Alexander Jenkins

At least it won’t feed anti-immigrant right wingers dumbass.
This isn't any worse than what we have now. dumbass

Henry Johnson
Henry Johnson

electing far right wingers is equivalent to electing milquetoast reformers
Okay /pol/yp

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

Okay /pol/yp
ok liberal

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

electing far right wingers is equivalent to electing milquetoast reformers
correct. it is still capitalism

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

Sure but it is a worse form of capitalism than current conditions that is harder to overthrow

dismissing the social democrats for being milquetoast social fascists makes me a liberal
If you say so.

Leo Ward
Leo Ward

Sure but it is a worse form of capitalism than current conditions that is harder to overthrow
this is false. There have been more revolutions that have come out of fascism than there has been from social democracy.

Alexander Gutierrez
Alexander Gutierrez

2904373

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Evan Howard
Evan Howard

Did he succeed or not?

Joshua Powell
Joshua Powell

no

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

Voting for radical left-wing parties (usually the communist party) is a bad idea. I think the best way we can play the politics game is by supporting parties that promise the small changes, and this is because small changes are those that spark the debate since those are the changes that can happen in our current political landscape. These radical parties that promise the BIG changes are the ones that get ignored, they dont spark anything; this is how most communist parties in europe work. You are not less of a radical by voting your social democratic party, these parties are the ones that have the chance of getting in power. If you think that by voting the communist party you actually achieve anything you are not living in reality.

Nolan Jones
Nolan Jones

Like what?

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

Suck a million cocks you commie faggot.

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Carter Miller
Carter Miller

Not election related by EU related:
twitter.com/TOLOnews/status/1137993668957220864
Krauts agree system with Iran to get around US sanctions