Why are SuccDems so fucking lame?

Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

Does anyone else on here watch this guy? He usually has some good takes and I enjoy watching what normie leftists have to say so I can gauge where the American "left" is on their path to class consciousness. On one of his recent episodes he repeated the "muh 20 gazillion" line while trying to distance himself, Sanders and the Nordic countries from actual socialism. Hasn't that shit been debunked forever now. Will succdems ever stop harming our movement or are they 100% dead weight?

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Camden Harris
Camden Harris

Salty Talk has always been just another liberal who chastises the working class for complaining about mass immigration, among other liberal takes. Not a good character to represent our movement.

Henry Cooper
Henry Cooper

My boyfriend watches him constantly and I debate his stupid liberal talking points regularly

William Moore
William Moore

hes SHIT

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

you don't have a boyfriend and you don't "debate" him

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

Of all the socdem youtubers and you have to pick suckular talk? At least Michael Brooks has a sense of humor and charisma

Carson Murphy
Carson Murphy

Shits fucking sad. The dude literally talks all day about how fucked the world and working class is and then turns his brain off and says "hrrrmm we need some mild reform about now".

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Benjamin Morales
Benjamin Morales

Kyle makes funny faces

Ian Rogers
Ian Rogers

Do you have anything to substantiate this claim?

Gabriel King
Gabriel King

If you think Kyle Kulinski is bad, try watching David Pakman

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

Michael Brooks has charisma? Guy is a snoozefest because he went through the Sam Seder school of not being interesting.

Jimmy Dore remains to be the most charismatic SocDem YT

Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

Why are SuccDems so fucking lame?
I can imagine that they are not edgy and cool in your eyes. They care about real issues like healthcare, social security, workers rights instead of fighting revolutions for a utopia that doesnt work in practice.

Will succdems ever stop harming our movement or are they 100% dead weight?
Its the opposite.

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

Why are SuccDems so fucking lame?
because they have a victim complex

Does anyone else on here watch this guy? He usually has some good takes and I enjoy watching what normie leftists have to say so I can gauge where the American "left" is on their path to class consciousness.
There is no leftism or class consciousness in the US currently

On one of his recent episodes he repeated the "muh 20 gazillion" line while trying to distance himself, Sanders and the Nordic countries from actual socialism. Hasn't that shit been debunked forever now. Will succdems ever stop harming our movement or are they 100% dead weight?
Leftists need to do the same and remove ourselves from being identified with Nordic sucdem

Easton Jones
Easton Jones

Surely it's a step in the right direction though?

Nathaniel Ortiz
Nathaniel Ortiz

they care about real issues like healthcare, social security, workers rights instead of addressing the reason that these things are at risk in the first place

Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

succdem user has a point though. the far left should focus more on concrete political goals instead of only reading books about revolutions and sneering at people for trying to fix their fucked up healthcare system.

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

This is a hot take but succdems hijacking actual leftist buzzwords is good in my opinion. By diluting the word socialist it makes more people listen when real socialists speak.

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Sebastian Cook
Sebastian Cook

We are not utopians. We are not the ones who believe that the working class and capitalist class can live in harmony and that all we gotta do is tax the rich more and regulate the economy and everything will be alright.

We take a material view on the subject matter and recognize that the externalities that the public and the ecosystem have to suffer with are not anomolous, but pandemic to the system.

Typical Americlaps are more concerned about about keeping their welfare benefits that the widescale destruction and exploitation that affords then their privileged consumerist way of life.

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

I've been posting several times about what the fuck we could be doing, especially in the US, and it's usually faggots who want to pull 100 year old books out to tell me why we can't do anything except wave a magic wand to cause a revolutionary movement to spring forth from nothingness that immediately vanish when I start asking them how to do it.

Owen Lee
Owen Lee

sounds like we're kinda on the same page then

Colton Lewis
Colton Lewis

And even if we are going to make concrete political goals, we should always include them in how we're planning on eliminating the source of the problem and how those things are directly caused by capitalist economy. Just saying "we need healthcare" isn't socialist or even brings people very far left, saying "the profit motive prevents effective healthcare" does start to move towards revolutionary goals. That's why succ-dems are the utopians, they want to have a world free of problems while ignoring why those problems arise in the first place, then point to europe's literal crown jewel countries as if they weren't built off the backs of incredible exploitation filtered enough times to make it hard to see.

Parker Bennett
Parker Bennett

This is a hot take but succdems hijacking actual leftist buzzwords is good in my opinion. By diluting the word socialist it makes more people listen when real socialists speak.
But the opposite happens. People in the US aren't more interested in socialism because of Bernie and friends they are interested in Social democracy and just as ignorant( and in a lot of cases more opposited to) Marxist Socialism

Brody Sullivan
Brody Sullivan

Pure anarkiddy post. What else should we look to, woke twitter tweets?

William Baker
William Baker

read a book

Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

To think I used to like him because he was actually willing to interview people about gamergate. He because a massive fucking tool due to the 2016 election.

Hudson Rogers
Hudson Rogers

*became

Camden Brown
Camden Brown

Make a fucking analysis of society that you live in instead of trying to re-analyze things from before the USSR was even conceived.

Andrew Smith
Andrew Smith

You're posting here

Ryder Garcia
Ryder Garcia

That people on the board cannot have SO's and we're all friendless nogfers?

Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

It isn't a question of can or cannot. It's a matter of fact. only no-lifers post here. Someone with a SO, by definition, cannot be a no-lifer, which leaves "you're lying" as the only logical conclusion

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

the sad reality is that it's both and i dont know why i'm here

Gavin Sanchez
Gavin Sanchez

im not a no lifer

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

Because you're a CIA agent.

Dominic Baker
Dominic Baker

fuck you for gatekeeping or glorifying alienation. A big reason I joined my communist collective was because I wanted more friends. I also have a BF, he's not so keen on reading Marxist theory, he likes more anarchist stuff. And we have very heated debates frequently. I'm also not in college, which makes making friends even harder, but I try my best, so fuck you again.

Jaxson Edwards
Jaxson Edwards

Brooks
charisma
Lmao

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

They suck because muh reformism

Juan Torres
Juan Torres

Instantly gets defensive when presented with facts
Insecurely brags about how he has friends
Continues arguing with fellow online losers on an imageboard during work hours

Really makes you think.

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

ikr
the true alienation is living in the fantasy world of thinking you have rich relationships in your life, like temporarily embarrassed extroverts.

Jackson King
Jackson King

This guy's format sucks. It's literally *plays clip* "omg this is bad" for 30 minutes on end.

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

you're forgetting his liberal smugness to hide his impotence.

Josiah Wood
Josiah Wood

His impotence is too self evident to even bother bringing up.

Sebastian Cook
Sebastian Cook

my biased analysis of someone else's situation is factual and if you disagree with me you're denying logic

Calm down there Ben Shapiro

Tyler Cox
Tyler Cox

muh (6)6 million
sound familiar?

even in the 90s and mid-2000s, moderate liberals were fine equating USA with being a fascist state when Republicans had control of the federal government, now, today, after the legacy of Obama, liberals seem so much more enthusiastic to promote the bullshit universality of bourgeois democracy, which is literally the "reason" Israel is expanding it's power, to bring civilisation to the middle-east, and so on.

I think there is a truth to conservative criticism of liberal moralism and hypocrisy, even if they seem like worn out boomer memes. Liberals are enemies of the left, but maybe they could work as useful idiots with enough sentimentality.

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Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

Facts are bias
What did he mean by this?

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

I think there is a truth to conservative criticism of liberal moralism and hypocrisy

In my experience after moving to the U.S., Democrats tend to be some of the biggest hypocrites. Republicans tend to just be fucking dumb most times, but libs are truly the most spineless of hypocrites. I'm not sure they are aware of it though, as they genuinely seem to believe themselves.

One small example, I remember when Obama was elected and he was being called a communist, and now many of the people who then rightfully ridiculed such notions are calling Trump a communist over the Russia thing, sometimes even directly. Making up wild sensationalist conspiracy theories, etc. Not too long ago I saw a man with a TRUMP PENCE hammer and sickle shirt. Meddling is another thing, in the eyes of the liberals being absolutely inexcusable, an "act of war", an unforgivable violation of the independence and sovereignty of the nation, AS IF the U.S. hadn't gone around toppling fucking democracies and sovereign nations across the entire world for the last 100 years+.

It reminds me of that old song "Love me, I'm a liberal" by Phil Ochs: "ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally."

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William Bailey
William Bailey

class war never changes…

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Joshua Smith
Joshua Smith

implying Republicans aren't liberals too.
Nigga, Republicans are just liberals that want gimmedats for white people.