Aussies, now is your time

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Something along the lines of issues regarding various things. Unresponsive, splintered ideologically, literal nazi infiltrators etc.
I guess stagnant is the word to use.
Probably better to ask them yourself though.

Lmao good luck pushing labour left. That was what the whole "Change the Rules" campaign was supposed to do.
If you try to push labour left, I say do it with the foundation of a communist party anyway.

Corbyn may be elected, Bernie may be elected, AOC is a national figure…

I'm not sure that's actually true, I would say there's a decent chance they're hiding their powerlevel to some extent (Corbyn especially), but even if it is, pushing back against late capitalist tyranny is good for leftism, building dual power means DUAL power, not just community organising, remember?

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Bernie and AOC are a definite "no", but Corbyn has reinvited Marxist figures to the Labour party and given John "A Pick to the Back of Every Kulak" Macdonnel a high position. God I fucking love Corbyn.

Labour is pretty good tho

You have no plausible deniability if you straight up say you're doing dual unionism (remember The Militant's death?)

Fuck off, Chapotard

Clearly in the US things are going slower but that doesn't mean it's right to just give up.

I don't even listen to Chapo but stick it up your own ass, you would let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Leftism would be further along by destroying the Reaganite consensus.

The difference is that the former was based on a party of trade unions, the latter was not. Australian Labor, while neoliberalised, is still a party of trade unions and trade unionism: so the strats could work.

Imagine the headlines if literal ACP members were found infiltrating Labour.
They'd probably pin it on the chinese or something.

Also, something meant to be in the Australian Marxist Review.
auscp.org.au/militantmonthly/2019/5/14/big-fish-in-small-ponds-the-poisonous-effect-of-petty-bourgeois-individualism-on-anglophone-communist-parties

The D.S.A is an incompetent flailing child and gets it.

*>>2894238 gets it

Is Australia ever going to move off of that stupid fucking instant runoff voting so that third parties can actually win House elections?

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That's why you don't do it directly, you create an org like Momentum which is designed to pressure the main party's policy while allowing members for other groups. Eventually you ban members from other groups and the weird ones go away or the people that stay tend to deregister their parties as parties. Legit it has worked wonders.

Tbf they do in the senate, also AV is a pretty decent system for constituencies.

Right, because the Senate uses proportional representation. House elections are single-winner, and instant runoff voting maintains two-party rule for single-winner elections.

That was only possible because OMOV was introduced in 2011. Don't know if Australian Labor has that.

Its not that bad here is a paragraph from their 2019 election platform

purposes; oppose and reverse the privatisation of public assets and services; government
assistance to communities for the formation and maintenance of co-operative banks, at low
interest rates.

Its watered down VS policy; Nationalise the mines, banks and energy companies, under community and workers’ control ==with no guaranteed right to compensation== take back the wealth so that it can be used for social and environmental purposes; oppose and reverse the privatisation of public assets and services.

Also Nz'er here, any melbournites wanna tell me what the deal is. Ive seen there are anarchists, but it also seems like salt, vic socialists and the good unions are all at least on the same page and building

Im still having a hard time dealing with this. I thought the public could challenge results in the court of disputed returns but turns out you have to pay for your own representation and if you lose you could have to pay costs.

Alternatively you must join them now to prevent the co-opting

No one said CP members should inflitrate. Also its against party rules for anyone who has been in a fascist or communist organisation to join the ALP.

It is really hard to have any sort of insurgency in the ALP though because the party rules are still really undemocratic. I joined
because i was interested in this possibility and still am.

They have a bullshit system where party members get a partial vote and superdelegates including sitting members also get votes. Shorten was not the peoples preferred choice. This time albo will basically be unopposed. He's hardly a momentum type figure though.

Only if you're currently a member of those organisations. Similarly, they ban people who are in any other political party.

When the recession hits the liberals will force austerity on us. How should we respond?

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Leave Australia. It's the most class cucked country on the planet. There is no hope, the people are retarded.

I'm glad Bob Hawke's dead: classcuck, class traitor, unfaithful to Hazel (bless her sweet soul) and CIA informant. Keating, you're next you chinaman-worshipping cryptopoof

Fuck youre like the anti-keating.

Pommyland would be even worse. What im saying this this could be an opportunity to build class consciousness.

The majority of members voted for albo. The majority of the big players voted for shorten. Guess who we got for 2 terms?>>2894345

People's war from the bush.
Maoism with aboriginal charicteristics.

Serious question, have there ever been Maoist aboriginal movements?

Thoughts on the Communist Party of Australia (Marxist-Leninist)?
cpaml.org/index.php

Anthony Albanese is the new leader of the labour party
news.com.au/national/politics/anthony-albanese-will-be-the-next-labor-leader/news-story/f413b1237d2c791f4c07e5fc1e77f556

Anthony Albanese: Markets will determine Adani coal mine
theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/anthony-albanese-labor-leaders-mine-craft-doesnt-add-up/news-story/5409de5648e23a1cebcb5e3b63c15dcf

What is the difference between:
cpaml.org/index.php
auscp.org.au/
cpa.org.au/

Why can't all these people get along? It seems redundant having three separate Communist Parties yet none of them contested the election two weekends ago. (Plus there are a million Trot parties.)

You only need 500 members to register as a party and contest elections. None of these stupid groups will get to 500 members if they keep splintering.

Interestingly, after skimming the sites (I refuse to say that I scoured the sites when I didnt)

cpaml.org/index.php (Communist Party of Australia Marxist-Leninist)
Based in Victoria
auscp.org.au/contactacp (Australian Communist Party)
Based in South Australia
cpa.org.au/ (Communist Party of Australia)
Based in NSW
It seems to me that the Australian Communist party has idpol of lgbti, anyway I will post their premises accordingly.
cpaml.org/demands.php
cpa.org.au/about-us/02-an-introduction-to-the-cpa.html
auscp.org.au/party-documents (policies coming soon)
Maybe they can unify across three states for the federal election.

I actually conflated the Australian Communist Party with the Socialist Alliance.

They put some good candidates for the NSW state election that were from transport unions, I avoided the idpols. Needless to say that neither of the interstate Communist Parties participated in the NSW state election.

socialist-alliance.org/elections/state/2019/election-platform/new-south-wales-not-sale

Because the old one died. Apparently they can't "prove" they have 500 members lmao
Because the sino soviet split. probably less members than the CPA so idk
Because the CPA is apparently trash. Very new, starting from scratch. Don't have the membership.

Apparently they've all been having issues with the stuff laid out in (why the ACP split from the CPA).

remember that salt = vic socialists

Thoughts on Socialist Equality Party?

Internationalists but Anti-Frankfurt School and Anti-IdPol.

Bunch of faggots.

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The Greens allegedly has a Socialist faction these days. All I've heard from them is authoritarian SJW bullshit. Does Left Renewal have any redeeming qualities or are they literally all SJW fuckheads?

Pretty based coming out in support of Israel Falou's freedom of speech. Better than Socialist Alliance/Socialist Alternative/Victorian Socialists. SEP actually has economic policies.

They're not ideal because they are Trots, but they are the least bad Trots in Australia at the moment.

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I've seen posters spammed in the city for a "Socialism Conference". I thought it might be worthwhile going along just to meet people. On the program website, it's just SJW shit. socialismsydney.com/program/

Any of you guys going?

Moreso than the US?

Or follow Maoist Third-Worldist theory that the Middle Class is reactionary and must be expropriated or impoverished by the bourgeoisie first then let evolution take care of the class cucks: youtube.com/watch?v=fownJzVTGH8

You couldn't get any gayer.

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