You… do realise that something like reducing the workweek back to, say 16 or 20 hours a week is easily possible under socialism, right? Even at current development.
So, you're a leftist
Gabriel Bell
Colton Walker
Alrighty then.
Zachary Campbell
Who is the utopian now?
Charles Jenkins
It does matter. Your definition of violence is not absolute. Even if you are right when you say that it is because of this an that, many people disagree and live life as though it isn't.
The difference between my definition and yours is that physical violence and the threat of physical violence are very separate things for me and not for you.
Like i said, people who do not consider contracts and private property as violence can live together well, but you use your definition of violence to give a pass to actual violence.
That's fine, it's not forbidden, freedom of association. This might be a healthy thing. Many here, you too i think, would wager that on a private property, contract based society without the state it would be in the form of an upheaval of abused and disgruntled child laborers. I don't think so. But we're starting to get into crazy derailments that can only end in shitslinging and telling each other to read this or that book to no avail.
Ethan Allen
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We were not even talking about whose definition of violence is right or not. You can't just say you are not imposing any ideal on other people yet at the same time impsing a ideal on people by creating a society.
Societies with class antagonisms will fall whether you call the actions taken by either of the classes to impose their rule on the other violence or not.
This is a silly game of schematics that's not leading to any productive conversation.
Noah Campbell
Ok
Logan Martin
More news at 11
Isaiah Ortiz
You actually believe that real consent can be had between two people of inequal power? So if someone is starving and another person has food and the starving person sells their self to the person with food in order to eat, this is completely fair, just, and acceptable?
Noah Parker
I wouldn't want to participate in a society that accepts slavery or interact at all with someone who would let a starving person starve.
You may have some psychopaths who would love to explore the weak but economic prosperity eventually lifts the vulnerable out of their reach and allows for charity to take care of the ones who can't do anything for themselves.
Here is the point someone will scream at me that i'm wrong and delusional, of course.
Jason Jones
Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS):
The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER.
I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body!
Thank you!
- CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)