Rousseau and French Revolutionaries give birth to leftism and the left-wing
<Darwin proves that the struggle for existence means that speciation occurs in tandem with varying genetic traits, some of which are more advantageous than others
<Speciation occurs over thousands of years when the same species (homo sapiens) are geographically separated
<Africans have significantly lower Autism Levels, higher crime rates (in America and Africa), can't even domesticate Zebras
So basically the right-wing is destined to consume the left-wing (while adopting it's criticism of powerful corporations) when whites give up 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Christianity🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 as well. Used to be one of you guys until Black Lives Matter.
If Equality is the basis of leftism then leftism has a lifespan.
Rousseau and French Revolutionaries give birth to leftism and the left-wing
UR GONNA LOSE
MUH CRIME RATE
Fuck off /pol/. We've had this debate 100 times.
used to be one of you guys until blm
Nah, you didn't.
looks at no blacks in America rates
quick comparison to white statistics
now I want an Asian/Jewish ethnostate
Equality is the basis of communism
Read and fuck off.
I'm not going to fuck off. Either participate in the argument or just ignore the thread my dude.
Nah, you didn't
Yah, I did. I was an anarchist and have always hated communism for being too authoritarian. Albeit the flaw in views boiled down to believing that democracy and equality were important, when in reality, not everyone is equal and therefore democracy has limited if an entirely superficial value.
What argument. It's the same tired old talking points that have been sent away dozens of times. Furthermore, you have 0 fucking sources. Not one.
I was an anarchist and have always hated communism for being too authoritarian.
Smells like you were a liberal too me.
Read Lenin and go back /pol/index.html
The link you posted contradicts you.
The abolition of classes means placing all citizens on an equal footing with regard to the means of production belonging to society as a whole. It means giving all citizens equal opportunities of working on the publicly-owned means of production, on the publicly-owned land, at the publicly-owned factories, and so forth.
That's still equality.
If Equality is the basis of leftism
<Entire ideology based on the assumption race hierarchy
<Only white people are individuals.
History never happened, reality is not real and the only cause for anything ever is race.
I was an anarchist
Yeah right, you probably only heard of anarchism because of Bakunin and Proudhon's antisemitic comments.
I was too liberal for liberalism, hence I became anarchist. Only to realize some people abuse freedom when given it, especially if they happen to be niggers.
Muh gommies make all ppl = same =(
That doesn't imply your starwmen of we're all going to paid the same, or that we would ignore that some people have greater skills at certain things than others. Your life and ability to completely self-actualize will not be impeded by your ability to pay or the brutality and inefficiency of a market. Profit is not necessary.
*blocks your path*
I hadn't heard of those comment until long after I had given up on a leftist mentality. I was an anarchist around 2010, and many people I knew went to Occupy.
I was too liberal for liberalism,
And yet here you are being a fucking liberal
bakunin was a salty mother fucker but he also admired marx so much he translated his works into russian
which … affected world history a bit
You know what argument. Don't play stupid, just fuck off or engage the points.
The answer is simple: the personal qualities of present-day grifters are such that we may find among them even exceptionally stupid people like OP's thoughtleader
But the social status of grifters in bourgeois society is such that only those are allowed to hold such posts who sell science to serve the interests of capital, and agree to utter the most fatuous nonsense, the most unscrupulous drivel and twaddle against the socialists
Why did Lenin style on libs so fucking hard?
Because your simple racist mind has a single preconceived notion of how different people act and twists everything else in your worldview around it
And yet here you are being a fucking liberal
I never said I was a liberal.
What fucking points. It's the same old shit that /pol/ thinks is revolutionary but to people who know how to read, it's just a joke. If you had a grasp of socioeconomics and cleared you mind of all the racial spookery, you'd get that.
What fucking points.
You're just playing stupid at this point.
So you were a dumbass anarkiddie playing out your childish idealist fantasies as a dumbass sheltered radlib, then you got triggered by BLM and became a fascist? Pathetic lmao
was a liberal
comes on leftypol
acts like a 0 Autism Level liberal
use disguised liberal arguments
refuses to own up after being exposed like the sneaky spineless liberal wrecker he is
Rape, robbery and murder seem to have the same implications no matter what society you live in.
Read the rest of my post you disingenuous faggot
Never said I was a liberal but I don't mind being accused of one.
I was too liberal for liberalism so I embraced white supremacy
Then know your fucking place, scum
Read the rest of my post
Then address my points.
Your answer to why amounts to
hurr becuz black
When In fact the answer is orders of magnitude mor complex,coated including history and economics, things a brainlet like you will never properly grasp
See, this kind of bad snide bad faith is why it's often pointless to engage with the right.
BLACK PPL WAZ DA JOOS!!!1!
WE WUZ KOSHER
not pointing out that the Cultural Marxism School is 24738830% jewish
Why wouldn't you want white people to be on top if you are white? It's basic self-interest applied in a collective way as opposed to capitalism which just serves individuals.
Pathetic. Truly and utterly pathetic. That would only have any effect if you were antisemitic to begin with, and we here reject idpol of every kind. Just stop, go back to /pol/ and whine about Jews and blacks and whatever the fuck else.
Probably because I’m not white lmao
And also because you’re just trying to find a position on the totem pole slightly above blacks while letting porky tear your ass apart like a Christmas present
can't even domesticate Zebras
they have a ducking reflex that makes lassos useless.
You would rather patronize than listen. How pretentious and willfully ignorant.
Equality and human rights are the death-sentence for all of creation. Take the Pentti Linkola pill
Do you have anything other than pointless infographs and easily mockable bullshit
I assume most people here are white, so you're in the minority.
star movie bad
It's easy to mock anything when you're the dumbest person in the room.
The point of the picture is to show the leftist bias in journalism.
Yeah, the Afrikaners should fuck off or be destroyed, fuck kulaks and kulak adjacent lmao
The grand majority of leftists couldn't care less about race. The few who do aren't hung up on it like you.
Speak for yourself, you haven't said anything of substance besides crap infographs and pretending to take the high ground
What is white people on top? Do you think white capitalists give a shit about you?
AFRO NAZBOL GANG ALIVE IN SOUTH AFRIKA
Imagine for a moment not wanting to seize shit from invaders. Imagine for a moment wanting anuddah shoah to happen
I've always noticed how shitty of a copout this is. Calling anything complex or simple is redundant, all things can be viewed in either a complex or simple manner depending on your ability to explain. You're just exposing the fact that you have no argument but you would like to have one.
No really. If you are against Blacks wanting to kill Whites in Africa then there is no reason at all to get mad when shitskins take ur shit.
Look at your own goddamn pic.
"White people on top" aren't gonna magically solve the problems in that.
You're just too lazy and sloppy to get invested in actually learning, if it's not spoonfed to you through memes and infographs you won't absorb it. Sorry fucko but you need to do some actual reading.
Do you think white capitalists give a shit about you?
I've already stated that capitalists (and their leftists underlings) are a part of the problem. They are the ones who are able bar politicians from implementing a ban on immigration, they are the ones who want cheap labor at the expense of their fellow whites.
why gommies no spoonfeed like mummy duz?
Go back to 10th grade biology, mutt.
But then again u voted for a guy who cucked out to Jews, had Slavs put him in place, and let a shitskin take away ur Internet.
Why would anyone give a fuck about white South Africans tho?
Do you know what the left actually is. Or are you just another retard who thinks it means liberal
Good luck getting an actual debate from these drones, a mod will be along to ban you shortly. I got banned for a month for drawing attention to the fact that corporatism and capitalism are two different things.
The grand majority of leftists couldn't care less about race.
No shit. That's my point, you don't want to see it, but when niggers commit crime disproportionately and then riot and fuck up the city you can't help but see that they are the reason anarchists are discredited. Because them not being bound by the law means more rape, more murder, and more robberies.
You're just too lazy
Then why are you consistently engaging with me? lol
what is socioeconomics
Will you make any effort at all to look deeper into the economic, social and historical causes for these? Secondary factors and interactions? Of course not. You made your mind up and won't interact with anyone or anything that may challenge it.
Because it's a case study in how backwards and inept the right is at debate. Memes, infographs and the same handful of tired old points, that's all you saddos have got.
As long as you hate on whites then you can't complain about them becoming more racist and using South Africa as a pretext for how they treat niggers everywhere else in the world. It's like a dog biting it's master only to be beaten back into submission.
corporatism and capitalism are two different things.
they're different when you have an imaginary definition of capitalism, like most lolberts
You literally came here ranting about how non-whites are inferior and should be enslaved you stupid fucking /pol/tard
This is what I'm talking about, saying "what is socioeconomics" is a total non-answer. It's backpedaling into obscurity. It's pathetic. You're trying to excuse rape, robbery and murder on a disproportionate scale by saying, uh hey, they were poor, even though whites don't do that when they're poor.
Well you are inferior, but I never said you should be enslaved. I think you should be exterminated entirely.
You not only don't understand but you utterly refuse to. You don't look any deeper into causes and effects, you just parrot NIGGUZ LOL every time, because you lack the mental faculties for anything more.
even though whites don't do that when they're poor
They don't need to be poor to rape and murder.
it's a case study
You're not studying, or teaching. You literally told me to fuck off at the outset. You're excusing the fact that you want me to leave but can't make me do it. lol impotence disguised as intelligence
No, they don't. Nobody needs to be poor to rape, rob or murder other people. Just ask your local nigger.
The same old impotent smugness that comes with the right. You have nothing actually to say so you put your jester hat on. Dance, monkey, dance.
You're being pretentious as a substitute for having an actual argument. Reminds me of a lot of college professors.
And you're being ignorant and stubborn in place of actually doing impartial research into these things. You don't know, you don't WANT to know because it would differ from your opinion and god knows we can't have that.
open a fucking book
How about the Bell Curve?
Whiteys get the bullet too
The simple solution is to kill everyone
Reminder that the Bell Curve is literally about how the Rich are becoming a different species and only used that one Black neighborhood as an example because it was poor as a means of showing that racial differences in intelligence are the result of environment.
I did impartial research, I told you I started out as an anarchist and I challenged my own beliefs. I thought like you but the only difference is that I was open-minded to the notion that equality and democracy are flawed. And thereby stopped being leftists after actually doing research. You are the one who can't accept facts, you are denying everything while telling me there are things I'm not considering. Debunk it all then. Provide evidence.
Well, you're right actually.
it is another posting someone who piggybacked in someone else’s work for hot takes episode
Worst authority to appeal to tbh
But tell me if that quote is incorrect and how.
No, you started off with a preconceived notion then filled up on simplistic, reductionist memes and unsourced infographs like you've been inundating this thread with.
Some of those are sourced though. The evidence that niggers commit disproportionate rape, robbery and murder (over half of America's) comes from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. You're lying through your teeth to save face.
And again you skip over the forces and causes of what causes that. You won't look deeper because it would actually require you to think rather than swallow memes.
Because intelligence is very much dependent on nurturing and environment and testing than genetic (that isn’t even related to race)?
you skip over the forces and causes
Not at all, in fact, you do. It's a nature vs. nurture argument and I'm arguing in favor of nature, as in genetic predisposition and speciation due to geographical separation.
Go back to the Bell Curve.
The only arguments for that are shaky at best, and often use bad samples and practices to reach their conclusions. Nurture makes far more sense in that anyone of any race raised Ina bad environment may well grow up to be bad themselves. Not a hard concept.
Is there any reason you retard Nazis want the love and affection of people you want to destroy? You get the bullet and your family does too, Stalin didn’t kill enough Germans.
It's funny how according to Nazi logic the Slavs should've killed every last g*Rman
If the soviets and allies had continued to kick Germany while they're down then just left them to rot, would we be dealing with this crap today
Except Germans started the war, Slavs did not, ergo, not nearly enough Germans died.
Now buy yourself a handgun and follow your leader
Definitely not, Comrade Joe could’ve swept through Europe but then D-Day happened and he was ultimately more merciful than he’s credited for. The Red Army had every right to burn Germany to the ground and salt the Earth after the shit they pulled in the East.
A disproven book? At least put out some data instead of just referencing it as a weak substitute.
Hell your picture proves my point. The continents have vastly different wealth and access to resources that undermines intelligence.
And also China/Japan/Singapore culturally game the intelligence test to optimize it (the results from China are also only from Shanghai)
Correlation doesn’t equal to causation. Your pathetic attempts to irk out any correlation still doesn’t measure up when you make the huge leap of faith
I have German friends and they're perfectly nice people, BUT…
You're going to bribe billions of Blacks into not being prolific murderers and rapists?
Christ, you can't even strawman properly. Go back, you've mad enough of an ass of yourself already.
Do you mean to imply that all animals care for their young the same way? Nurturing style is genetic, as is intelligence. Why would Blacks be identical to Whites, or any genetic group?
Calm down. I'm merely pointing out the odd logical inconsistency here. There doesn't appear to be enough resources on the planet to pull Blacks just in America out of their downward spiral (avg Black household wealth will be negative before 2050). When you factor in the EXPLOSION of Blacks in Africa, it seems insane to go on about "socioeconomics" like you have a viable solution for humanity.
Yea all animals from the same species genetically care for the young the same way like breastfeeding (funny enough breastmilking your young significantly increases Autism Level), baby cries and leaving the parents at around 20s etc etc. It is culture (and also access to resources) that shapes how we take care of them.
You’re a scumbag white supremacist and you’d be doing yourself a favor by ending your life
Why are you so mean tho? I was gonna say that the very first victims of the Nazis were the gommies, and Marx and Engels were German too. So even if they did the Holocaust you shouldn't hate all Germans, only the Nazis.
Uncle Joe Himself said that
The races of Man are as genetically different as subspecies, such as those of tigers. And like kinds of tigers, survival strategies do differ. Culture is not a pure contrivance, it comes from the biology of the hominids who practice it.
Comparison to tigers is ridiculous, since the taxonomy of tigers and human are created by humans anyway.
If anything the genetic diversity/strength within Africans is far more than outside, showing that genetic deviation is not that big despite them leaving Africa.
We've had this debate 100 times.
Oh sweet summer child…
I might as well respond to this despite the range of claims being made all at once
Equality is the basis of leftism
No, it is not
<"The elimination of all social and political inequality,” rather than “the abolition of all class distinctions,” is similarly a most dubious expression. As between one country, one province and even one place and another, living conditions will always evince a certain inequality which may be reduced to a minimum but never wholly eliminated. The living conditions of Alpine dwellers will always be different from those of the plainsmen. The concept of a socialist society as a realm of equality is a one-sided French concept deriving from the old “liberty, equality, fraternity,” a concept which was justified in that, in its own time and place, it signified a phase of development, but which, like all the one-sided ideas of earlier socialist schools, ought now to be superseded, since they produce nothing but mental confusion, and more accurate ways of presenting the matter have been discovered.
As well as this entire chapter from Anti-During
Darwin proves that the struggle for existence means that speciation occurs in tandem with varying genetic traits, some of which are more advantageous than others
Marx does not reject Darwin, in fact he devotes the 2nd edition of Capital to Darwin himself.
Speciation occurs over thousands of years when the same species (homo sapiens) are geographically separated
The "races" cannot be constituted as different species or different sub-species as that is simply not how taxonomy operates in the modern world. Sub-species are now defined by the degree of genetic variance between two subjects within a species after the flaws of the older system were made apparent.
Africans have significantly lower Autism Levels, higher crime rates (in America and Africa), can't even domesticate Zebras
This ignores a slew of factors, many of which were addressed here (ignore the shitposting between the two other anons) .
Zebras are also a bad argument because they are both not suitable for agricultural work after immediate domestication and the conditions of Sub-Saharan Africa would not provide many situations in which domestication would provide a net benefit for both the cost and what could already be accomplished. There are reasons why even the Boers did not bother with large scale Zebra domestication.
Regardless of all this, Marxism does not care for equality in the slightest. Whether or not populations are divergent does matter in regards to his analysis and conclusions. During Marx's time, such opinions were even common.
muh Bolsheviks were majority Jewish
Your sources for this is a Zionist news article which makes largely unverifiable claims based on prior unverifiable claims, Timothy Snyder; person who buys into the fabricated narrative that Stalin purposely constructed the famines that occurred to eliminate Ukrainians who resisted collectivization (a farcical claim if you analyze the environmental causes and the other territories the famine occurs) and who I'm not even sure makes such claims (though I wouldn't be surprised), Robert Wilton; a reporter who supported the Tsar and who had never interacted with the the bolsheviks directly with sources which unverifiable and are simply a reiteration of White Army propaganda, and a hearing (which has been posted here before and occurred during the allies intervention into Russia on the side of the Whites) in which the sources are a list the person giving the testimony allegedly got from another source he could not name and from a book he did not have which he got from a priest he could also not name (so, a whole lot of nothing).
Those who were Jewish were always a minority among the bolsheviks, and data sows they weren't even the most over-represented.
Africans have significantly lower Autism Levels, higher crime rates (in America and Africa), can't even domesticate Zebras
If you wished to increase African Autism Level levels and reduce crime all around, it would unironically be in your interest to be a communist or at the very least support communists in Africa.
Leftism is not about equality
On paper thats true, but for some reason almost all leftists (from liberal to marxist) reject EvoPsych or divergent evolution in humans. At most you will find leftist pay lipservice to these ideas, right befor screeching & banning everyone that comes up with "reactionary" conclusions.
For example all of those nice posts you refer to blaming the black white civilization gap on geography completly miss the point that such an explaination dosent contradict a hereditary view on intelligence (which is what all of this always comes down to). One might as well just say "those geographic dont select for intelligence as much as other environments".
but for some reason almost all leftists (from liberal to marxist
Liberals aren't leftist
If anything certain liberals (and some leftists) love EvoPsych because of its relation to Freud
It depends what you mean by divergent. As I said before in one of the linked posts
<Do you mean that, for the reasons I mentioned before, the development of civilizations within Africa was stunted and did not occur like that of other continents, which of course has an obvious effect on intellectual development? Then yes. Or do you mean that Africans are inherently unintelligent and so were, and are, unable to develop even if they had the means to because genetically they are simply incapable of forming any kind of complex society and lack the potential to ever do so? Then no.
right before screeching & banning everyone that comes up with "reactionary" conclusions.
The conclusions matter here. Your argument would be that Africans are and always will be unintelligent and that any form of development in Africa, capitalist or socialist, will always fail because Africans inherently cannot operate in any complex modern society due to early selection (after which you make an arbitrary moralist value judgement on the validity of Africans as a whole and their relation to other groups). A communist, especially a Marxist Leninist, would disagree even if they did accept such a simplified analysis of African development, citing the elimination of Autism Level traps within communist countries like Burkina Faso and its rapid infrastructure development as well as general security. They would also state that Marx already assumes humans are not equal, and repeats such in Critique of the Gotha Program. Whether or not people are the same does not disprove Marx in any way.
that nuclear butthurt in the comment section.
First of you are lying to yourself if you think even some liberals love EvoPsych. Besides that i think the "development in Africa was stunted which of course has an obvious effect on intellectual development". This dosent mean however that simply improving their environment could negate these past selections in such a short time, or that marxism cant improve their conditions. Also the black white Autism Level gap can only be narrowed, not eliminated, by improving living standarts.
did ti ever occur to you that people reject your pseudoscientific bullshit not because of "equality" but because it's PSEUDOscience aka shit
First of you are lying to yourself if you think even some liberals love EvoPsych
Freud is literally EvoPsych.
simply improving their environment could negate these past selections in such a short time
I believe I say in later posts that it would be generational. In the short term historically its generally been shown for there to be a rapid increase in the populations average intelligence as conditions and education improves before slowing to a gradual increase that is variable in its magnitudes generationally.
Also the black white Autism Level gap can only be narrowed, not eliminated, by improving living standarts.
This would have to be seen, but I would not care either way. I'm not a moralist, and a difference of a few points does not somehow instill in me the need to make some arbitrary value judgement. I have already my goals and convictions. It is by historical necessity alone must we carry this material dialectic to it's conclusion, and I care for nothing more then such a purpose.
Seeing metahorps of genitals everywhere isnt what i would call EvoPsych. Anyway i agree with the rest, it just bothers me that retards like LARP as materialist.
was meant for
Leftism is when you like Star Wars. The more you like Star Wars the lefter it is
It's more liberal bias than leftists, also liberals =/= leftists.
despite being 13% of the population, black people make up 100% of stretched white wombs
source: you don't need one big man
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I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body!
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