*Reads Stalin’s Backstory*

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

Holy fuck, reading about this dude’s childhood and teenaged years, Stalin really does sound like the heroic counterpart to Adolf Hitler, born poor as shit to a drunken abusive father, an artist and poet as a kid, also experienced the harsh hellish realities of early 20th Century capitalism. Like, fuck, this dude’s life story is so fucking cool, all his life he basically fought for and did whatever it took to help the poor and working class, he was exiled multiple times for it, he tried stopping ethnic wars in Russia, and all throughout he didn’t need rich people and the army propping him up like little bitch Adolf, he propped himself up by his own fucking grit and determination.

Stalin really was something else man

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history.com/news/how-stalin-was-caught-napping

Brayden Cox
Brayden Cox

believing Soviet hagiographies
you're about as dumb as the average person who unironically believes Abraham Lincoln never told a lie

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

You worship a limp-dicked nutcase that shot himself because slavs crushed his “master race”

Camden Miller
Camden Miller

i worship no man other than my myself

Levi Scott
Levi Scott

Truly ebin, m'lad!

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Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

Did you get to the part where he starts robbing banks? Yeah, the guy was a twat even before the revolution.

Carson Gomez
Carson Gomez

Revolutionary Stalin robs bourgeois banks/orchestrates strikes against Rothschild oil refineries one leading to a storming of a prison and the second one on the funeral of those shot by soldiers. Gets arrested and sent to exile where he attempts to escape twice,one fails and he gets frostbite the second succeeds and when the revolution of 1905 breakouts his soldiers disarm police and tsarist soldiers while stealing illegal printing materials for underground newspapers and orchestrates attacks against other tsarist military and paramilitary forces. A revolutionary in every sense of the word.

Adolf Hitler gets sponsored by the richest motherfuckers in Germany/abroad after attending a campy christian school/failing university and forms an alliance with a German president,ww1 general and a majority of the Conservatives and to top it all off releases a Rothschild. The opposite of a revolutionary and was basically just someone conservative ministers and rich people elected.

Levi Jones
Levi Jones

Um no he allied with the US and there was still markets so he was actually a US puppet

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/215975651

Aaron Lee
Aaron Lee

stalin was an OKHRANA agent who turned coat

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

Lmao who did this?

Asher Bell
Asher Bell

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Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

take a guess

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

despot
masonry
Two based schizo posts to start the thread.

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

Legend. Absolute unit. Modern jesus.

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

Young Stalin would make a hell of a movie to be sure.

Not to mention the part where his wife in her twenties bleeds out from tuberculosis probably exacerbated by Baku's chemicals industries and then he throws himself into her open grave. Dark.
you're about as dumb as the average person who unironically believes Abraham Lincoln never told a lie
The coolest accounts of Stalin's youth comes from Ioseb Iremashvili, a childhood friend of his, and a Menshevik who later wrote a book about growing up with him called "Stalin and the Tragedy of Georgia," which was censored by the Soviet state because it was too "gritty" you could say, and the Soviet authorities didn't want people getting the wrong idea.

Justin James
Justin James

Also how Stalin was a suspected police informant because he kept busting himself out of jail (he was smart, is why) while Hitler was literally a police informant.

Isaac Hall
Isaac Hall

apnews.com/a8ac08b41cd72d9d500b7e1629d7a6ef

stalin was an OKHRANA agent too

Camden Scott
Camden Scott

an artist and poet as a kid,
And unlike Hitler, he was a good one.

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Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

He also escaped Siberian camps on his way back, seduced a noblemen's daughter.

Brayden Jackson
Brayden Jackson

lmao pretty pathetic source. Some guy can claim he has a document but he has to actually demonstrate he has the document to prove it, but as far as I'm aware nobody has, and allegations Stalin was an agent were debunked pretty conclusively in 2003 by Aleksandr Ostrovskii, who features heavily in Kotkin's recent round of biographies. Where Hitler was literally a "V-Mann" (Verbindungsmann) a.k.a. "police spy."

Luke James
Luke James

remember that one?

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Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

every time I see a comment like this I can just taste the hatred that went into the humans v orcs things
honestly these people are so detached from reality

Connor James
Connor James

carried an OKHRANA badge that he claimed he stole
joked about ratting out fellow Bolsheviks he didn't like out to OKHRANA prior to 1917
was accused of being an OKHRANA agent to his face by his fellow Bolshevik contemporaries on at least two occasions
killed pretty much all of the old Bolsheviks during half a dozen purges
<it was all made up by Russian reactionaries
"no"

bt dubs Hitler actually served hard time for his revolutionary activities or the beer hall putsch, he couldn't just "escape" from prison like stalin did (because stalin was an OKHRANA agent)

James Rivera
James Rivera

more like an orc agent, amirite?

Brody Gonzalez
Brody Gonzalez

Hard time
He served like 8-9months of his 5year sentence, and he didn't even do anything along the lines of forced labour but was just sitting in his cell writing.
You can compare it to Breivik crying over not getting the newest playstation. Tho I guess for you faggots not playing games is considered "hard time"

Ryder Phillips
Ryder Phillips

Hitler actually served hard time
LMAO, he was fawned over, had a personal secretary, regular visitations, quality food and continued access to political activity. He was given a flick on the wrist by a sympathetic bourgeois legal system and acted like he was persecuted for oppression points to put in his book. Like all right-wingers nothing more than a slimy grifter desperate to make themselves out as a victim.

Isaiah Scott
Isaiah Scott

Hitler’s imprisonment was stated to have been a relatively comfortable stay akin to a hotel where he was able to write a dogshit book

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

If Stalin was an OKHRANA spy do you think he'd be stupid enough to go around showing people "his" badge?

Robert Diaz
Robert Diaz

This turned out much better than expected.

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward

As much as I hate tankies you have yo respect Stalin for dunking on Lenin and Trotsky for treating him like most bourg treated proles

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

Won't anyone think of the bankers?

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

was accused of being an OKHRANA agent to his face by his fellow Bolshevik contemporaries on at least two occasions
That doesn't mean anything if you've ever been involved in an actual communist organization.

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

Like only twice? Definitely not a spy.

Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

all the replies are absolute schizo conspiracy nonsense and/or butthurt namecalling
sometimes I lose faith in this board but I am glad that /pol/ manages to be laughably worse 100% of the time

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Elijah Thompson
Elijah Thompson

He also died sitting in his own piss and shit, with no one making a move to help him lol

Oliver Thompson
Oliver Thompson

lol, old people weak
time won't spare you either, fascist

Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

It’s more lol because his guards spent most of the day sitting on their asses outside his room, even though Stalin didn’t get up like he usually did in the morning. And when they finally called the doctor it took him 2 hours after the call to actually bother to get to Stalin.

Jaxson Gutierrez
Jaxson Gutierrez

Source: A British comedy movie

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

My Source: Historians, witnesses, and Soviet Media

Your Source: It makes me butthurt daddy Stalin died like a unloved hobo

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

keep crying nazi

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Dominic Richardson
Dominic Richardson

I’m not a Nazi though, i’m a anti authoritarian anarchist. Stalin is a Red Fascist.

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Historians
whoms't?

witnesses
StaLiN's BuTTLer oN tHE eViLS of ThE TYraNt

soviet media
yeah, sure

Christian Robinson
Christian Robinson

Yeah he ended up dying as a deranged lunatic. The guy killed all of his former comrades who made the revolution possible, his own wife killed herself(probably due to living with the gravedigger of the revolution), and after Operation Barbossa(retard Stalin ACTUALLY believed Nazi germany would keep its word) which killed millions of Soviet citizens, Stalin was such a bitch that he was nowhere to be seen for a week.

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Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

retard Stalin ACTUALLY believed Nazi germany would keep its word
Imagine actually believing this. That one of the foremost agents of geopolitics in the era would, in an era of escalating tension and confrontation against Japan in Inner Mongolia - MPR, and against German proxies in Spain, Stalin simply signed a pact (following the precedent set by western allied powers to prolong preparations for war) and immediately thought everything was hunky-dory. You're delusional

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

are you mad that you got btfo'd on 4/pol/

Oliver Rodriguez
Oliver Rodriguez

Border guards heard much the same from captured enemy saboteurs, and railroad workers observed huge numbers of Nazi soldiers moving east. Though not every report proved reliable, Soviet intelligence purportedly named the exact, or almost exact, date of the invasion no fewer than 47 times in the 10 days before “Operation Barbarossa” went into effect. The Soviets even recorded wiretaps of Germans discussing Hitler’s plans, including one officer who declared “they haven’t even noticed that we are preparing for war,” and another who said “the Russians, of course, will be taken unaware.”
history.com/news/how-stalin-was-caught-napping

Your father figure was a colossal retard

Samuel Bell
Samuel Bell

You're retarded. You know Stalin didn't die when he passed out in his room, right? He regained consciousness for a little and died in bed after 4 days.
(retard Stalin ACTUALLY believed Nazi germany would keep its word)
Stalin was such a bitch that he was nowhere to be seen for a week.
This literally never happened.

Hudson Cooper
Hudson Cooper

History.com
Cursed source. I can't comment on the rest though.

Oliver Perez
Oliver Perez

Okay? Full mobilization was avoided as the Stavka thought open military conflict could be avoided a while longer, and preliminary industrial evacuations to the Urals had already been initiated. My only point was you can't seriously expect Stalin to have had no idea of the impending, as these preparations had begun up to a year beforehand. So no matter the incompetence of that which is immediately prior to the opening of hostilities, you can't make the argument that it was the gross and plain naiveté of the Soviet general staff and Stalin, whom were wholly complacent and disbelieving that ANY conflict would happen.

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

And don’t forget how he single handily killed a hundred mercenaries with a large sword in a forest, and came out with mere scratches.

Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

Also how he single handily killed a platoon of White Russian’s with nothing but a pistol.

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

It should be reiterated that every american nazi on this board is genuinely stupid. These people are, by and large, real life schizos in need of help and there is no reason to engage with them except for occasional laughs and to prevent the dissemination of obviously incorrect takes.

There continues to be no evidence (literally none, a couple guys that didn't like him whined that he was a spy, that tends to happen when you work for an underground political organization) whatsoever that Joe was a super secret spy. Literally none, a couple guys that didn't like him may have whined that he was a spy but paranoia is a real thing when you work for an underground political organization and not some pussy German window breaking club. No primary sources, no nothing. Not that we need any, because the claim is breathtakingly incoherent: it would be insanely contradictory for a literal tsarist to play a pivotal role for the reds in the civil war (Stalin was a faithful general that performed excellently throughout the entire civil war and was generally praised by Lenin, only receiving criticism for his crass manner). I would love for galaxy brain to explain to us why a tsarist agent would wait until over a decade after the whites had already been brutally defeated and repressed (with the direct aid of stalin) to start 'sabotaging' the bolsheviks (by killing some dudes and proceeding to carry out the most ambitious and successful campaign of economic growth in human history and insuring the security of the soviet union for decades after his death). What the fuck did the ohkrana hire him for? To escape? Was escaping his job? Because he did absolutely nothing else for them. This shouldn't have to be explained. Go ahead and tell us that you were just being epic and triggering. Good one. Go back to facebook and talk about freemasons and old town road with your 15 boomer friends, dork

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

Before cartwheeling his way to the tzar, and personally flossing on his corpse.

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

he propped himself up by his own fucking grit and determination.
tfw Stalin pulled himself up by the bootstraps

Jack Taylor
Jack Taylor

To be fair, the guy was already provoking mass unrest by enacting collectivization and moving around swathes of the population, often by force, to accomplish mass militarization and industrialization in a period shorter than anyone at the time thought economically or even physically possible. I don't know what else he could have really done about the German threat before they decided to show up.

However, disappearing after the invasion began was not very leaderly. He obviously was hoping he could just hold out longer or even indefinitely, which was an unrealistic expectation given the circumstances and Hitler's own statements. CCP probably had the most correct take on him, 30% bad, 70% good.

Oliver Hernandez
Oliver Hernandez

i'm a liberal
fify

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

This page has no sources and doesn't even mention all the actual preparations made by the soviets, which would contradict this guy's claims. Here's Zhukov's word from his autobiography:
"Vatutin and I went into the next room and quickly drew up a draft of the directive to be sent by the People’s Commissar. We then returned to the office and asked for permission to read the directive. Stalin listened to it then read it over again making amendments, and finally gave it to the People’s Commissar to sign. In view of its importance, I cite the directive in full: “To the Military Councils of the Leningrad, Baltic, Western, Kiev and Odessa Military Districts. “Copy: To the People’s Commissar of the Navy. “1. During 22-23.6.41 a sudden German attack is possible on the fronts of the Leningrad, Baltic, Western, Kiev and Odessa Military Districts. The attack may begin with provocative actions. “2. The task of our troops is not to be incited by any provocative action that may cause serious complications. At the same time, the troops of the Leningrad, Baltic, Western, Kiev and Odessa Military Districts are to be in full combat readiness to meet a possible sudden strike by the Germans or their allies. “3. I order that: “a) during the early hours of 22.6.41 the firing posts in fortified areas on the state border are to be secretly manned; “b) before dawn on 22.6.41 all aircraft, including army aviation, are to be dispersed among field aerodromes, and carefully camouflaged; “c) all units are to be put on the alert. Forces are to be kept dispersed and camouflaged; “d) air defence is to be alerted without additional involvement of unit reservists. All preparations are to be made for blacking out cities and other targets; “e) no other measures are to be taken without further specific orders. - Timoshenko, Zhukov “21.6.41.” Vatutin took the directive to the General Staff, whence it was to be immediately transmitted to the districts. Transmission to the districts was completed at 00:30, June 22, 1941. A copy of the directive was forwarded to the People’s Commissar of the Navy."

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Justin Torres
Justin Torres

I hear Argentina is lovely this time of year.

William Thompson
William Thompson

It's false that Stalin went crazy or had a nervous breakdown during Operation Barbarossa. I'm going to quote Stalin: History and Criticism of a Black Legend by Domenico Losurdo:
"As a matter of fact, ten years have passed since an American historian dealt a blow to the myth of the Soviet leader’s moral collapse and evasion of responsibility upon the start of the Nazi invasion: “However shaken he was, Stalin had eleven hours of meetings with party, state, and military leaders on the day of the attack, and he received visitors almost continuously for the next several days”. We now have access to the register of visitors to Stalin’s office in the Kremlin, discovered in the early 1990s: it appears that, in the hours immediately after the military aggression, the Soviet leader was immersed in an endless succession of meetings and initiatives to organize the resistance. These days and nights were characterized by “activity” that was “strenuous”, but orderly. In any case, “the whole episode [narrated by Khrushchev] is a complete fabrication”; this “story is false". In fact, from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, Stalin not only made the most difficult decisions, giving orders for the transfer of the population and industrial facilities away from the front, but “retained minute control over everything, from the size and shape of bayonets to the Pravda headlines and who wrote the articles”. There is no evidence of panic or hysteria. Dimitrov’s corresponding journal entry reads: “At 7:00 a.m. I was urgently summoned to the Kremlin. Germany has attacked the USSR. The war has begun […]. Striking calmness, resoluteness, confidence of Stalin and all the others.”

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Blake Harris
Blake Harris

not the moon

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Brody Gonzalez
Brody Gonzalez

Fair enough I suppose, he was a complete retard when it came to the military especially, he refused to let his soldiers retreat at the beginning of operation Barbarossa which led to several of the largest encirclements in history, including the largest encirclement in human history, he valued loyalty over competence which led to some truly terrible commanders, he kept counterattacking which became repetitive, and expected for the Germans, this allowed them to prepare, causing possibly millions to die in senseless counterattacks, he didn’t let civilians evacuate in some cases because he thought it would make the soldiers defending them fight harder, he killed much of his military staff in the great purge, and he generally fucked with the military constantly before mid war. His terrible decisions probably cost millions, maybe even tens of millions.

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

How about the Center of the planet?

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Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

My Source: Historians, witnesses, and Soviet Media
If you had these sources, wouldn't you post them here? It turns out you don't have any sources after all.

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

imagine being such a troglodyte that your ideology comes from a failed 20th century dictator that shot himself in a hole in the ground

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