Why do leftists tear you to pieces if you just try talking about loneliness as a hetero male?

John Wood
John Wood

Not even spewing misogynistic shit, not saying you’re entitled to women, not blaming women for anything, literally just talking about loneliness if you have a penis and like women gets you attacked in leftist spaces, why? Are we supposed to be castrated, is it wrong for us to desire companionship? Not even tryna make an incel post, genuinely wondering why you can’t talk about your own problems. Is it just the era of idpol?

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Colton Davis
Colton Davis

Guilt by association

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

That's not my experience at all. Loneliness is a universal human feeling. Humans are social animals, we need company to function properly. I don't think anyone is shaming hetero men when they talk about loneliness.

Perhaps you're thinking of society's pressure on men to "suck it up" or "stiff upper lip" and just deal with all the emotional and psychological problems that arise living in a individualist consumerist society with superficial relationship and alienation from your labour.

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

Leftists definitely do, whenever I post on leftist forums online if I dare to write something about extreme loneliness and depression over a lack of intimacy I get attacked. Unless you ramble about how happy you are to be single and sexless you get attacked.

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Companionship is bourgie

Juan Ramirez
Juan Ramirez

Do they still do that? Used to be okay, then it wasn’t, I don’t track it. The impression I got from watching unassociated fluctuations in media was that cultural acceptance of loneliness was on the upswing again.

I think this shows pendulum swing because it has something akin to boom-bust patterning. People want to help the lonely, so they try. Some of it works (most people get richer during a boom/most lonely people get less lonely), some it works brilliantly (a few people get rich in every boom/a few lonely people get popular, or make lifelong friends), but society overextends (brittle or irrational investments fail/sometimes lonely people are more than people can reasonably accommodate), and then goes into retrenchment (debts must be serviced/emotional injuries take time to heal).

Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

Don’t conflate sex and companionship, hah. That’d be likely where you’re going wrong. Don’t be nephilistic, seeking to go down from Heaven to find a wife; it’s important to be able to find virtue in men as well as women.

Jeremiah Young
Jeremiah Young

Because any space that does not have a party line on idpol (particularly feminism) comparable to that of the CPGB-ML will be infested by liberalism. Even in other groups I have seen feminists joining and then "dating" the leadership who then in turn turn the place into radlib central to secure their access to pussy.

James Morgan
James Morgan

Incels have some of the most insufferable identity politics
Normal people can talk about loneliness tho

Logan Powell
Logan Powell

How are we defining incel? Because, I don’t see why it’s perfectly fine for trans people and women to talk about dating problems but not men, like, insane incel rants about skull sizes and chads and the femoid plot is one thing, talking about how dating is hard in the 21st Century is another.

Cooper Thompson
Cooper Thompson

letting them divide us
#notallincels
The answer is simple. You are talking to the beneficiaries of the unequal distributioon of mates, to the attractive males and females who are in their harems. The status quo serves them just fine, male virgins seeking justice are a threat to their privilige.

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

Because moaning about your shitty non-problems is for little liberal bitches that don't have anything better to do in their lives. The biggest, most difficult problem they've ever faced is that a girl didn't want to kiss them. They never had to work really hard, they never went hungry, they were never beat up for being poor/brown/member of a union etc.

Little kids died so you can wear your fucking shoes, get over yourself.

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Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

If you get dissed on just for talking about your dating issues then those people are assholes. As long as you're not acting like a stereotypical incel sperg with the conspiracy theories and endless obsession over their inceldom (which will all but guarantee them continuing being incels).

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/

Luis Bailey
Luis Bailey

Nice way to silence dissent cunt, just tell people complaining that the act of speaking out is the cause of their issues so iether they suffer in siolence or are themselves to blame.

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

because your posts on cth made you sound like an incel

Landon Baker
Landon Baker

– I had a patient, let’s call him ‘Henry’ for reasons that are to become clear, who came to hospital after being picked up for police for beating up his fifth wife.

So I asked the obvious question: “What happened to your first four wives?”

“Oh,” said the patient, “Domestic violence issues. Two of them left me. One of them I got put in jail, and she’d moved on once I got out. One I just grew tired of.”

“You’ve beaten up all five of your wives?” I asked in disbelief.

“Yeah,” he said, without sounding very apologetic.

“And why, exactly, were you beating your wife this time?” I asked.

“She was yelling at me, because I was cheating on her with one of my exes.”

“With your ex-wife? One of the ones you beat up?”

“Yeah.”

“So you beat up your wife, she left you, you married someone else, and then she came back and had an affair on the side with you?” I asked him.

“Yeah,” said Henry.

LMAO
Guess he had a good personality and respect for women :^)

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

I think on this board when people see someone describe themselves as an "incel" they are adhering to a specific ideology like MGTOW or whatever you see on /r9k/. Usually I just use it for anyone who wants sex but is unable to get any for any reason and that's it. So therefore females can be incel too.

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

my gf and I are polysexual and bisexual you retard, the most of a harem we've had is other dudes in bed with us
anyone who unironically identifies as incel is likely going to sperg out about state issued monogamy or some shit so they are already out of the ballpark. then you have people who want to be slick entryists with their misogyny but don't have the thinnest veil of subtly, usually ranting about the same shit but shouting vulgar workerisms. That's also shit-ass awful and I wish they would all go away.

If you want to talk about social atomization and how online dating culture ruins intimacy and inherently lends itself into women seeing men as more of a commodity (and somewhat vice versa) then whatever, that's fine. Just don't have retard spergouts about how much women deserve the rope or something.

Jaxon Edwards
Jaxon Edwards

If you're not a virgin you can't be an incel. Otherwise the term would be meaningless. This means practically no female above 20 is an incel.

Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

But I don’t do that sperg shit, I specifically did the latter and that’s what I get shat on for.

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

muh dictionary
Kys. The only thing that matters is 1 male having more than 1 female, depriving always one virgin more of his partner for every additional conquest.

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Juan Jenkins
Juan Jenkins

the "thot phenomenon" threads are spergouts
imagine being such a liberal moralist that you don't have the occasional threesome

Chase Young
Chase Young

Imagine being such bourgeois decadent hedonist that you think everyone is afforded the luxuries you are

Joseph Perez
Joseph Perez

Dissent against what exactly?

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

Imagine forgetting so hard to pretend to be egalitarian that you rank everyone 1 to 10… I get that Zig Forums is run by the same broken slaves that think fascism is strong on /pol/, but you are supposed to pretend.

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

If you're not a virgin you can't be an incel.
I guess so.

My situation is weird, I'm bi, but with a strong preference towards women. I have only had sex with guys though, simply because it is way easier despite having a much smaller pool to choose from. But I guess that would still disqualify me from being an "incel".

Nicholas Lee
Nicholas Lee

The established sexual order that is based on chaos/anarchy (freedom in burgerspeak) and the accumulation of sex and love at the top and absence at the bottom that inevitably results from that.

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

I can see were you are coming from, I'm also attracted to cute traps/femboys but those are even more unachievable than females :/

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

have you ever considered that the reason that nobody is keen on bedding you has to do with the fact that you advocate taking away all of their freedoms for some weirdo sexual caste system based off a subjective measurement of one's value based off subjective beauty traits that is predicated on the idea of reproducing at all?

Even if I am your boogeyman sex chad, I've got no plans for reproduction anytime soon. Having a kid in this capitalist society is immoral. I might adopt tho, because I'm not particularly concerned with "muh genes" and whatever spooks you hold.

Ryder Fisher
Ryder Fisher

the thot phenomenon threads are spergouts

Good thing I didn’t make them then?

Jaxson Adams
Jaxson Adams

then what got you so unjustly persecuted

Lincoln Reed
Lincoln Reed

but those are even more unachievable than females.

Only because they are rare. However they are usually huge sluts, I have even managed to fuck a few. They tend to be incredibly narcissistic and vapid, don't expect more than a one night stand.

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

have you ever considered
No because I have never voiced these things in real life you fucking moron.
I am your boogeyman sex chad
not particularly concerned genes
Are you retarded? it's subconscious, animals don't fuck because they think about the sperm entering the egg but because they are rewarded with opiod release for fucking.

Liam Ramirez
Liam Ramirez

I said that I’m severely lonely, that porn and tinder make those feelings infinitely worse and are just a retreat from trying to date, that a lot of men are this way these days, and that they can’t adapt to changing relations between men and women. They’re men that don’t know what behaviors can get them companionship, because of our society a shit ton of people have socialization issues, some men are incredibly attractive and have status amongst others so they can do things “the way they used to be done” (no that it’s good or right) while others understand the new dynamic much better and succeed because they know how to socialize and fraternize in this new world. But there are also a lot of socially maladjusted men in this new world who have no clue what to do whatsoever, either due to looks or personality, I fall here due to my personality, and I honestly don’t see wha recourse I have beyond giving up and continuing to retreat and/or eventually killing myself.

Jeremiah Rivera
Jeremiah Rivera

Also
taking away all of their freedoms
literally muh freedoms shit. Shut up liberal. Nobody cares about abstract "rights", what people care about is their real material experience of life. If you had sex with plenty of females you do not want to lose that, not "freedom" you just use that to shield yourself and disguise that you have taken something that now someone is lacking.
sexual caste system
No. No classes, no castes, no chads, no virgis
1 Male = 1 Female

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

And what is the political solution to this that the left should in your opinion take more seriously? Because more attractive = more sex is a fundamental feature of natural selection that is traceable across hosts of species. How do you negate this? Bonus points for a political solution that isn't batshit.

Carter Howard
Carter Howard

teach me senpai

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

idpol neoliberals

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

See, this is where we disagree, what amounts to slavery isn’t a fucking solution, Jesus

Basically there is no solution, a lot of guys will just be lonely as our society tries to work out a new synthesis, because I know I fall into the category that will remain alone I just wanted support and got attacked for it, which is why I realize suicide is the correct solution for men like me

Luke White
Luke White

Suicide is the solution to not getting laid

David Russell
David Russell

covert incel thread

Grayson Stewart
Grayson Stewart

Why do you people conflate the full array of romantic life with sex?

William Reed
William Reed

Because more attractive = more sex is a fundamental feature of natural selection
There were still massive deiffernces in the degree of the dicrepancy across human history, so clearly society can widen that natural gap or closen it. Generally monogamy should be rewarded while promiscuity should be punished to counteract the natral reward/punishments that work the other way.

Adrian Ortiz
Adrian Ortiz

Incel Special Ops reporting
Because I think I might kill myself

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

Fuck, leftists are basically all the same, aren’t you? There’s literally nothing you can do for the rising number of socially isolated males so you just attack them with your idpol bullshit until they shut up and happily die for the revolution

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

You're not Chad OP, therefore they rationalize that you are a piece of shit and deserve loneliness.

James Wright
James Wright

My dude, I am the last person to really ask for advice. But here's what I got, I am 6'2" and when I was in my best shape I was like 185lbs. So work out, build your chest/shoulders mostly. I didn't have a six pack either. Get your hair cut/styled in the best way that fits you, do not try to look like a twink or whatever gay stereotype you are attempting to look like. Get drunk and go to gay clubs that usually have younger patrons. Where I live (South Florida) helps. If you live somwhere like Iowa, you might be SOL. I don't feel like I am anything but kinda lucky to be honest. Right now I am fat (Like 215lbs), old (33), and I have lost some attraction to guys, so I pretty much have given up

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

There’s literally nothing you can do for the rising number of socially isolated males so you just attack them with your idpol bullshit until they shut up and happily die for the revolution

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Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

So you’re saying I’m right?

Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

my gf and I are polysexual and bisexual you retard, the most of a harem we've had is other dudes in bed with us

this fucking board is literally made of people identical to the strawmen pol makes about leftists

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

No because I have never voiced these things in real life you fucking moron.
Just because you don't openly state your contempt doesn't mean people don't notice it. How you go into any social interaction emotionally will reflect through whole transaction, and people are keen on picking up on little details.
Are you retarded? it's subconscious, animals don't fuck because they think about the sperm entering the egg but because they are rewarded with opiod release for fucking.
Well if people did it just for the orgasm why don't we all just masturbate?
As someone from the ennobled position of having a gf, a lot of our fetishes revolve around delaying orgasms, because it isn't about the orgasm but the act of fucking someone itself. It's interactions and power play with a partner that you trust, borne of the warped sexual psychology of the two of us. If you are reductionist about the nature of relationships in these conversations then I have no idea how you'd even peruse a relationship irl, you're a domestic abuse case waiting to happen. It's sad the transactionalism of capitalism broke you, but you don't get pity by being a weird sexualized tyrant.
literally muh freedoms shit
Nobody cares about abstract "rights
Imagine thinking twitter tanky talking points apply to actual communism
what people care about is their real material experience of life.
like… forcing them into relationships
If you had sex with plenty of females you do not want to lose that, not "freedom" you just use that to shield yourself and disguise that you have taken something that now someone is lacking.
I've not accumulated much of anything really. I've got a gf, sometimes we fuck some other dudes and sometimes we fuck some other girls, some on a semi-permanent basis but others just because they are curious and we are willing. Since we are open about our relationships and we take things at a pace they are comfortable with and respect what they want, people are more willing to see us about these things. You could learn from that.
No. No classes, no castes, no chads, no virgis
posts an image of a ranked system of people presumably on attractiveness
lmao
I can sympathize with the aspects of online dating that commodity people like that. I didn't experience it myself but I've had plenty of friends who got burnt on that shit and came to me to talk about it, so I've got the perspective on how it works as opposed to what genuine courtship looks like.
They’re men that don’t know what behaviors can get them companionship
The societal standard has broken down (as it should have, it was very abusive and hollow in how people interacted and anyone who unironically thought it fostered healthy relationships just needs to see the number of broken households to know the old standards were shit). The best way to tackle that imho is to try to work on the individual level with what people are comfortable with. It's seen as uncouth for women to be forwards with what she likes, so generally you need to build up rapport with someone before you can start asking about, say, what they want out of a date. That said, being raunchy is somewhat more acceptable now through social media, so you can get a feeling of what they like through the kinds of jokes and sexual banter they have.
But there are also a lot of socially maladjusted men in this new world who have no clue what to do whatsoever,
I'd extend this to women as well, I've been confided to before about this kind of thing, asking what men like and how to win them over, what is the way to approach a guy about dating, ect. Like I said, trying a personalized approach to the person rather than trying a society-wide courtship method is always much more successful. I know, easier to say than do, but it is a genuine way to actually approach and get to know people.
and I honestly don’t see wha recourse I have beyond giving up and continuing to retreat and/or eventually killing myself.
I'd honestly just get off the dating app stuff, all it does is promote the transactional mode of relationships and you probably won't find many people looking for something genuine. Approach people at your workplace or school or whatever, build friendships with them, try to understand them, and play up to what they like. The "friendzone" is a grand myth perpetuated by dudes who aren't earnest about their feelings to other people, but at the same time you shouldn't come out as madly in love during the first date either. Just go with whatever pace you all feel comfortable with.

Christian Morgan
Christian Morgan

2916442
You know when I was writing I was thinking "I bet this guy lives in Europe". Well at least you have trains that can take you to a city much more easily that someone living in the middle of nowhere in burgerville. Well there are also a lot of twinks who only like other twinks. You don't have to be muscular.

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

No more /leftpol/

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

this fucking board is literally made of people identical to the strawmen pol makes about leftists
naturally, any person /pol/ ostracizes tends to drift to drift into circles that offer them some kind of protection, hence trans leftists and whatnot. When liberalism fails to protect people from a bunch of ironic unironic fascists, they seek other systems.

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

People in general don't conform to /pol/'s hypocritical purity obsessin

Angel Clark
Angel Clark

we need to stop covering for degenerate lifestylists

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Ryan Wright
Ryan Wright

this entire thread
I like how Zig Forums gets a rock hard erection for "converting" (see: inviting them to make the board worse while most of them don't actually change their mind) Jordan Peterson fags, chapo trap house liberals, furfags, "gender critical" bullshit, and /pol/ boomers but when it comes to incels the sympathy and understanding and attempts to have good faith coversations just go right out the fucking window, despite incels, particularly if theyre also neet/hikkikomori being some of the easiest to actually convert to leftism if you know what to say

Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

Tbh I can't stand the noise from clubs and so on and they privatized the trains so they are a lot more expensive than driving would be, but thanks anyway anonrade.

Aaron Wood
Aaron Wood

implying that polyamory and all the lgbtqodejdog+ postmodernist garbage is in any shape or form leftist

you should read about sexual life in the ussr. people fucked a lot, but there was none of this repressed degenerate fetish shit

Carter Wilson
Carter Wilson

George "sell out all the british communists to the CIA" Orwell
a good judge of how to build a movement

Jeremiah Diaz
Jeremiah Diaz

My trolling attempt went wrong and now I'm writing a screed
youtube.com/watch?v=Q7N8BAytB2U

Jeremiah Lewis
Jeremiah Lewis

Entitled to women
Why would you be entitled to another human being? You're a fucking reactionnary sperg, if you weren't so bitter you might have a chance but being an incel ranting about muh chads n stacies isnt helping

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

have you ever considered
I think the better answer is that that is a reversal of causality, it is the virginity that creates the associated idelogy, not te other way around. All who claim otherwise are idealists and therefore liberals.

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Logan Hill
Logan Hill

Keep knocking down those strawen roastie, the man who took your virginity is not going to come back, he has newer fresh young sluts now.

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Julian Evans
Julian Evans

What changing relationships? You think autistic virgins didn't exist in the past?

Justin Sanchez
Justin Sanchez

Relationships between men and women have in no way evolved in the 40 years since women joined the labor force

Okay

Chase James
Chase James

I'm a dude

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

the virginity that creates the associated idelogy
true, but the ideology perpetuates the virginity, and it elevates it into a form of identity politics as well. then it goes from where one can reasonably talk about societal ills and the atomization of society to "we need sex castes!"

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

People married out of obligation and the need to stay alive not because of love. That's why marriage is a spook and it's not because a women is forced to stay with you means she gives a fuck about you and isn't cheating on you with the delivery man

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

love is a spook
isn't cheating
true, but as she had something to lose it reduced the risk, today there is no consequence for getting as much chad dick as she wants iin her teens and tweens

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

So you admit to literally wanting a slave and you don't give a shit about all that sentimental love bs. Just get a hooker at this point. They're not even that expensive

Hudson Sanders
Hudson Sanders

What is a fetish at this point.

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Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett

not getting to inseminated by attractive/high-status men while I am young and gettig the unattractive/low-status men to pay for it is LITERALLY slavery

Luis Ramirez
Luis Ramirez

also sex is free for chad why should i pay for it

Kayden Rogers
Kayden Rogers

Incels tend to get pretty mad when you don’t conform to their worldview , they start calling you a chad and shit,like i love you for calling you handsome but we (as leftists) just try to help you
Also incels are using an unironic anticommunist meme (seize the means of reproduction) as an argument so..
In general though leftists have nothing but sympathy for alienated people

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Ethan Ross
Ethan Ross

For calling me*

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

Mfw tried to start a dialogue and then my thread dissolves into Incels ranting about wanting slaves so people have to counter it

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Eli Miller
Eli Miller

2916487

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Ayden Adams
Ayden Adams

Youre a total schizo dude. People aren't cartoon characters. Chads and incels are total spooks. You can't get laid because you're an autistic faggot. Most people have sex without problems and some are promiscuous because they're attractive but not to that extent that you think of. People, especially women could pick up on your misogyny and that turns em off. If you acted like a regular person and focused on your general social skills it wouldn't be that hard

Ethan King
Ethan King

Why did women not pick up on the misogyny of Henry? see

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

Some random anecdote made by an incel.
Some sociopaths have good social skills and are charming + deceiving. You're a faggot so you're easy to read

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

He explicitly stated, he wasn't feeling entitled to women, you illiterate sperg.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

No, itS an example of a general law. You name-calling me only displays you lack of arguments.

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Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

Tfw you gotta be an ardent feminist and also guy hat FUCKS to be a commie that wants to hang porky for ruining your life and the planet

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Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

He did,

Connor Hill
Connor Hill

Burgerstan is a sociopathic shithole and their culture isn't universal.
Go ahead and bully people then, you have your answer on how to fuck stacies.

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

Incorrect, you can be an incel if you haven't had sex for a while, grannies with dead husbands are incels, I'm technically an Incel despite getting raped shit like that

Carson Russell
Carson Russell

Why were you raped

Noah Nelson
Noah Nelson

This is probably why you got shit on for talking about it

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

unironically posting stonetoss

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

This, imagine your biggest problem is not being able to have sex with the same frequency as a stereotype of male machismo

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

anyone who is virgin above 25 or so likely has a lot of problems

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

Are you really saying that the average women dates misogynist?
Also you get no pussy despite being misogynist, doesn’t this disprove your argument?
Inb4 i am not a chad
Was henry a chad?
Don’t the victims of bullies tend to be antisocial?Like what did you expect
Also i used to be in a popular kids gang when i was 10 and we did picked on a poor soul (i felt and still feel bad about it)
Am i also one of those bullies?
This like i have never seen anyone get actually bullied in my country
(pic KKE's secretary with his harem)

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Aaron Perez
Aaron Perez

personally, i fuck tons of bitches. and i'd never take any of your advice. you sound full of shi'ite and you're probably a fat jewish girl.

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

has a lot of problems
literally a NEET in a first world country with no social skills and all he has to do is to talk to people more to fix his issues

Yeah must suck to be in such a rut.
if Stalin was still alive he would have yeeted incels to Siberia for being decadent bougie fags

Brayden Clark
Brayden Clark

Shalom sister

Elijah Kelly
Elijah Kelly

Since when did this board become /pol/. Plus don't we have a containment thread for this

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

2916492 (You)
Are you really saying that the average women dates misogynist?
Nice strawman retard. The poster was claiming that females detect “misogyny” and do not have sex with those were they find it. If Henry is not a misgynyst, I don’t know who is.
Also you get no pussy despite being misogynist, doesn’t this disprove your argument?
I didn’ get any pussy back when I wasn’t either.
Inb4 i am not a chad
Was henry a chad?
Sure, but anyone who is sexually “successful” is.
2916497 (You)
Don’t the victims of bullies tend to be antisocial?
No. Asocial maybe. You are just parroting the just-world-myth. Maybe the homeless are just bad people too.
Also i used to be in a popular kids gang when i was 10 and we did picked on a poor soul (i felt and still feel bad about it)
And I’m sure females rewarded you with sex for this behaviour but not the bully victim (or vastly less).

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

He was 10 years old. You know anyone who had sex at 10yo

Alexander Reed
Alexander Reed

maybe just higher social standing and female affection which later lead to being given sex adn love

William Ross
William Ross

What's the point of this whole thread anyway? I mean you reject any advice we give. If it's just to sperg out about muh stacies don't you have R9k or r/braincels or something

Lincoln Fisher
Lincoln Fisher

What's the point of this post?

Dominic Johnson
Dominic Johnson

To see where this is getting at because it's fucking ridiculous?

Hunter Wood
Hunter Wood

Incel

Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett

Even if your whole retard theory on women being sluts and only fucking chads is true. We don't care. We wouldn't alienate a significant portion of the working class because they enjoy life too much. Women have far more value than a few virgins with incurable aspergers

Henry Cox
Henry Cox

You say that because they are fucking you instead of the virgins. This thread made me think that maybe genociding the attractive males is more important than genociding the rich.

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

These are incels. Do not listen to what they have to say.

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

Is this about my thread or the Incels in the thread? Because I’ve literally never said any of this shit and I don’t know why everyone is sperging out in this thread

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Cooper Taylor
Cooper Taylor

I haven’t even replied to the majority of the replies here dude, I'm not the one ranting about chads

And why the fuck do you tards try driving people to the most nihilistic and reactionary places in the Internet? When you’re literally open arms for actual fashies?

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Oliver Ortiz
Oliver Ortiz

Get out whitey.

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

Get out k i k e

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

Not really, I've actually always been really autistic myself. I'm pretty average looking but I had more success in college by just being nice to women, I've fucked mostly normal girls. My longest relationship was 4 months and I have lots of dry spells from time to time. But I can tell you is there are women out there who don't get laid just as much as some incels but they don't complain about it because their sense of worth isn't tied to their number of partners unlike men

Colton Martinez
Colton Martinez

Aight I wont

Xavier Hall
Xavier Hall

Tfw you’re a short skinny black dude that honestly can’t play hood/thugmax so you find Marxism and Leninism and use that to try living and ignoring your loneliness but the brutal gauntlet of emotions you feel from isolation tears you apart mentally once your defenses break down so you try watching porn to get those urges out but it makes you feel even worse and guilty so you give up entirely and suffer because you were meant to suffer

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Camden Carter
Camden Carter

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Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Yeah welcome to the club buddy, moving on

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

What a dumb thread.

Yes, masculinity does matter in our society. Stereotypical masculinity is important when choosing a partner, that's why Chads are successful (the converse can be said about woman), and yes that's a "social" problem. But the stupid cucked incel ideology based around not getting laid is practically recognizing that you submit to this stupid spooks. Incels torture themselves for not getting laid, for not being hyper-masculine and reinforce narratives of masculinity. How is this not being ultra reactionary? And I say this as a lonely loser just like you.

And by the way, why the fuck does this matter so much? Goddamn it the fucking earth is about to become a total dump and you stupid incels are complaining about not getting laid, is just as stupid as SJW's counting the number of females and niggers in a movie.

Angel Walker
Angel Walker

I didn't wanted to reply to that post, but to OP.

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

I haven't met a single chad in my life that didn't have relationship problems like most normal people. I've met a dude who had a modeling career and still wasn't as promiscuous as the average incels thinks, I've known fat blobs who slayed more pussy than that model

Adam Jenkins
Adam Jenkins

Since we have no solutions to your problems and refuse to give an answer that relates it to capitalist social relations, we’ll just insult you and guilt you into making the correct choice, because that’s how reality works, remember when it worked for the Clinton Campaign, I ‘member

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Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

Why are men wrong for feeling lonely tho? That’s literally it? Commies never have any answer for this shit, every time I ask I get kicked so hard in the gut I ask myself wtf not look at incel forums.

What strategy is there to alienating lonely alienated people trying to find support for their problems? It can only ever end one way

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Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

I didn't say they didn't have problems, but if that's what you understood I'll correct myself. I was just pointing out that it's probably true that having the features of a "chad" will grant you more acceptance by women and society in general. Of course, life is not perfect for average guys and "chads". Only delusional incels believe that chads life are perfect and ultra-promiscous because that's part of their self-denigrating imaginary that gravitates around self hate, humiliation and so on. But if that happens, it has indeed some social causes: effects of masculinity in males are a social factor, not individual.

No, I didn't say that the solution to your problems was individual, but you must realize that the ideology and explanation that you have built around your failures is quite reactionary and it actually reinforces these stereotypes.

Go ahead, look at incel forums if you are that retarded and reactionary. I'm not saying that you are not in pain for being lonely. That happens, that's a problem, I get it. You are alienated. You aren't insulted for being a virgin. You are insulted for holding those stupid beliefs about "matriarchal societies" and the feeling that you are entitled to something. Being a man is hard when you are not man enough, but clearly the answer is not to become a pol tard.

Charles Harris
Charles Harris

You're not wrong for feeling lonely. But to the think the answer to alienation is cucking yourself to a reactionary death cult you're wrong. We tried helping you and we can't offer anything other than basic advice like get out more and getting better clothes etc… Because that's literally all that women give a shit about

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

The left genuinely does have a man-hating problem that it needs to work out. You're not wrong about this. Lots of liberals or "lefties" are still spooked on masculinity and get triggered when they see a man talking about being vulnerable or having problems. Fucking imagine a group of people who want to liberate the workers but can't bear to hear half the workers talking about their problems.

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Austin Morgan
Austin Morgan

This.

Communism should aspire to a more human and equal society, so I do think it's bad that someone denigrates incels for being virgins. It's not proper of what the "left" should be. SJW's do it all the time and it's totally counterproductive, they do it with poor and working class white people, with incels, and so on, while they fetishize blacks and woman. We should try to be comprehensive with those left behind and affected by our capitalists societies.

But the way to do it is to offer incels something more, something better. We can't condone their reactionary beliefs and tell them "ah yeah it's true, woman insult you because we live in a matriarchal society, it's the jews and the niggers and the democrats and…". No, that's reactionary bullshit. I don't approve the hatred that comes from the left, but we are not going to become /pol just to gain some support from internet virgins (no offense with that).

Caleb Campbell
Caleb Campbell

Calling redlibs and sjws part of the left
Idpol is just neo reactionary garbage that's meant to divide the working class

Andrew Hernandez
Andrew Hernandez

A lot of leftists hold stupid views, that's what it comes down to. The only leftists who will attack you for that are those obsessed with idpol who unfortunately make up a large number of us. Ignore that aspect of their ideology as much as you can.
What you're describing is an excellent way to tell the difference between a Marxist and a radlib or other mutt breed.
Marxists identify what you're describing as alienation caused by capitalism and understand it is an issue which, because of the rise of idpol, actually effects straight white men the worst in first world countries. Guevara, Stalin, and many other revolutionaries directly addressed and wrote about this at times.
Ultimately it stems from men's disassociation with labour and the expectations put on them. You are forced to work a job you don't care about, stress and suffer, to acquire capital so you can experience superficial love and relationships while desperately holding onto your masculinity in such a way that you don't experience loneliness or depression, but not to a degree that makes others uncomfortable. If you can work a job you love in which you are not being (or to a minimal degree) exploited, as is made a hell of a lot more possible under socialism, you'll find alienation disappears, and the wealth of social symptoms you experience go with it.
The prerequisites are ones we feel should be simple: you work a job you enjoy and feel is meaningful so that you can be confident and happy with what you do, thus being enabled to drop the hypocritical facade of masculinity and lack-there-of you are forced to carry. When this is dropped, and your mental health improves, relationships will follow. This is one of the many issues we care about and can only be solved on a large scale through radical change.
For you right now, user, the way to address this is difficult. You could follow the JP route which so many alienated young men have been attracted to and work on self improvement in an attempt to address the symptoms of alienation forced onto you, and that's a fair response. Just don't fall into his politics, and never forget the root of these issues.
If you are able to put yourself in a position in which you are satisfied with your labour then much else will come to follow and you'll be enabled to flourish in ways that will address your loneliness.

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Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

But I don’t hold those beliefs, I think the world would have been a better place had men never held supremacy over women and we’re seeing the final after-effects of that system

Aiden Taylor
Aiden Taylor

Probably. We should be more like bonobos. They have almost no hangups about sex and fuck everybody regardless of their appearance. They fuck to greet each other

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

But the average person thinks those people are the left, and a lot of revolutionary socialists believe at least some of those ideas.

Nathan Powell
Nathan Powell

but be a transwoman and talk about how "cis" women wont fuck you and everyone will crowd around you and pat your back

Julian Brooks
Julian Brooks

Also, I actually did use to use incel forums, I just stopped once I became a commie and don’t ever intend on going back. I more meant for young men who are still apolitical but primed closer to reaction. Their beliefs shouldn’t be condoned, but you gotta understand, as a young man with self-esteem issues they tell you a lot of what you wanna here, when I was 17 I was first drawn in because I utterly hated myself for being black (didn’t hate black people, I hated being a dorky black guy in a white bourgeois high school) and I hated myself even more for being unmasculine. I never got so far into it that I wanted control or domination over women (I hated myself for not wanting to dominate people), but I was held there for a long time because, even if I rejected the most extreme bits they told me everything I wanted to hear and every time I tried redeeming myself the door got slammed.

Idk, I think the only thing that saved me was the fact that I love history and anthropology (made it easy to question capitalism) and the fact that being black stopped me from seeing fascism as a political route to take, a lot of other young guys wouldn’t be so lucky.

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

Bullshit. This is just bourgeois utopianism. Bonobos are a sexual class society and even more unequal than chimpanzees. I would still be a virgin bonobo.

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Brody Campbell
Brody Campbell

I'm brown and white people are racist af. Even white liberal women are racist as hell. They'll call themselves woke but would never date a person of color unless they fit their fetishized ideal and they would never have a long lasting relationship with them anyway. But there are people out there who are good, I've dated mostly white women. You're not an incel you're just experiencing what any person of color would experience if he would be surrounded by bougie white people

Noah Green
Noah Green

white people are the devil, black definitely DON'T have issues with masculinity and don't do any harm to other young black males who don't fit into the stereotype

It's all tiresome

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Animals having class society

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Jaxon Cox
Jaxon Cox

Thing is, I’m def not an incel because I’m not even a virgin nor have I never dated, I’m legit lonely and have a shite dating life because I don’t fit the new paradigm or the old paradigm

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

I'm brown and white people are racist af.
You're more likely to notice a white person being racist than a white person not being racist.
Even white liberal women are racist as hell.
Women are generally much more conservative/reactionary than men are because they can get get away with it.
You're not an incel you're just experiencing what any person of color would experience if he would be surrounded by bougie white people
That's pretty accurate, but I'm wondering if it's causing you to reflect on the nature of this kind of bigotry and whether you have something in common with the incels.

Michael Garcia
Michael Garcia

That's okay user. As long as you don't fall into reactionary death cults like the other user said accurately it's okay.

This is /leftypol, not r/socialism or twitter. We understand virgins and lonely people, hell this is part of the imageboard culture. Most of us are like that. It's just that threads like this are controversial because incels always appear and begin spitting their shitty ideology.

Cameron Garcia
Cameron Garcia

I never said that. I'm just saying that in general, bougie white people are racist as hell. Regardless of how woke they think they are.

Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

Could it be that you specifically choose to frame your alienation as a hetero male problem instead of a more universalist and structural approach? Could it be that you're a latent sociopath? Food for thought.

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Connor James
Connor James

nothing latent about him

Nathan Lee
Nathan Lee

Latent sociopath

Okay, this is a hot take, in what way am I a sociopath?

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

If I was a trans woman saying I’m miserable because I can’t find a relationship would I also be a sociopath in that scenario?

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

Women are definitely not more reactionary than men. The right literally wants to subjugate them into breeding machines. They're more likely to be idpol fags but not fascist or right wing

Julian Hill
Julian Hill

idpol isn't right wing
muh wymmins dindu nuffin
Also the Natis actually encouraged women to have sex early and outside of etlock, asl ong as it was racially pure of course.

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William Wright
William Wright

*wedlock

Liam Butler
Liam Butler

I could see you went out of your way to get me some legit stats

William Clark
William Clark

OP, the reason this topic is almost impossible to discuss even on a board like Zig Forums, is because incels constantly come into any thread like this and attempt to poison the well, by falseflagging and then samefagging to attempt to derail every single thread. This has happened for years at a time and there are a few particularly dedicated posters like Swedish Socdem Incel, a tripfag who also used to troll pretending to be a Nazi. So you're actually stuck even more between a rock & a hard place, with Radlibs on one side and Fascists on the other (who gladly recruit from manosphere adjacent communities), but with a third dynamic of incels who explicitly want to drag everyone else down with them, and will constantly attempt to ruin the discourse on such matters. There's at least one of them in this thread, if I could ask a vol, before anchoring, if they could point out who is obviously samefagging just for confirmation.

Carson Powell
Carson Powell

idpol fags are right wing
Being right wing isn't about who's in charge of the hierarchy. It's about having a hierarchy.

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

wtf i love leftypol now

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Jack James
Jack James

1 Male = 1 Female
How though? What is to be Done?

Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

catholic altar boys?

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

Pol Pot did this and was quite successful until the bourgeois Vietcong ruined the party

Ayden Green
Ayden Green

Pol Pot did this and was quite successful
And that is different from arranged marriages because?
the bourgeois Vietcong ruined the party
BTFO US-China joint venture gets Khmer Rouge to invade Vietnam gets rekt anyway.

Jace Lopez
Jace Lopez

Imagine being this asshurt about someone having normal human reactions to dissatisfaction.

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