1.once the privitazation of the means of production and land is illegal, workers all enhirt their own workplaces.
2. the people get so rich and content but want to plan out more development or vote for new revolutionary laws about something or someshit.
3. everyone in every city votes and elects the coolest most hardest working nice leader in that city (this is the dictatorship of the proletariat)
4. those dudes vote for the changes, and people who go to school for planning/planners help design the changes.
there is no unjust heirarchy, just just heirarchy. This is what communists all want, and it just seems like anarchists are throwing state around like a boogeyword
Is this wrong or right?
Kayden Cruz
Cooper Sanders
i know dude im just trying to picture how the ultimate society would function. there would obviously have to be EARNED hierarchy or peoples lives would suck
Parker Barnes
this dude gets it
Jaxon Wilson
well stop thinking in these Objectivist terms. it rots your brain.
Anarchism by itself just means a stateless/classless society. Communism is just a political ideology that details how to achieve that. the majority of ideas in Communism are taken from Anarchism, the rest of them are based on Marx's personal critique of Capitalism and how it thwarts those ideals.
Gavin Brooks
Bravo
Noah Gray
Except they typically work under "unofficial" hierarchies.
Cameron Turner
If the community leaders were give the position democratically, then its a justified hierarchy since the people consented to this (pic related). An unjustified hierarchy is when people aren't given a choice i.e. bosses and bureaucrats.
Juan Miller
But there is, though, no?
By its nature, the dictatorship of the proletariat is introduced as a transitional state. This is a part of Marx's theory, with the goal being that after relinquishing the monopoly on the use of force to this particular state and nationalizing industry, the state could be naturally dismantled as it would no longer be useful with the MoP in the hands of the workers.
The end result is supposed to be stateless, but the concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat decidedly is not.
Blake Kelly
This edit is sicker
Michael Perez
Also about this
Neither communists nor anarchists define the state as this. For all we know this "group of community leaders" is still a state. This definition alone isn't enough to know whether it's a state or not.
To commies, the state is a tool of the ruling class to oppress the working class. To anarkiddies it's an institution with a monopoly on violence against the working class which defends private property. To some I suppose these two definitions are very similar/identical but I think they're different enough to warrant mentioning both.