Trying to understand end goals of political systems. Being brought up in democracy the end goal always seems to be freedom, is this true for communism and fascism as well?
Is Freedom the end goal of Communism?
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Get Freedom of Association'd, bitch.
this is literally fascism then again, you do really want to be dominated both in theory and practice
those are consequences or realities but what is its goal.
Total democracy in both the workplace and in governance. AKA, the dictatorship of the proletariat (or the working class, whatever you prefer).
No freedom to the enemies of freedom
Marxist communists don't give a shit about freedom and civil liberties.
Freedom is slavery, &c, &c…
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If the end goal is democracy then isn't that what we have, people will just vote for people to be in control no?
Is the end goal of anarcho-communism freedom?
if its not democracy than what is it
t. enemy of freedom
Liberalism is rooted in John Locke's "life, liberty and estate(private property)". Maximizing freedom of an individual means allowing him to dominate others. That's why neither Jefferson nor any of the founding fathers were hypocrites.
What is communism? The complete extinction of freedom.
says the liberal
Your right to be a piece of shit that considers arbitrary groups to be lesser does not infringe on my right to not have you suck my oxygen.
Leftists are just assmad moralists, just as much as fundamentalist Christians are.
Show me where I said that.
Awwww, your impotent rage is so cute!
gay and autismpilled
Can you vote for your boss? Do your politicians actually really honestly vote in your internists?
yes, like all communism
slavery is freedom to you I guess.
hmm I've never thought about that like that but I suppose thats true. I thought technology was a freeing factor for a long time but I also find it allows people ways to "dominate" as well I guess.
No what is communism goal, or what is your goal?
Limitless freedom, of course. Which puts me directly opposed to commies.
That's some awful projection there.
Doubt you have more than 10 different pics
Also don't pick on the handicapped
It's not technology that permits the domination, it's the way the system is set up. Private property and its protection will always result in some form of slavery.
The end goal of all systems of government is absolute fascistic domination of everything you see and hear and think. Government, Govern = to control, ment = mind. Mind control. If you think the end goal is anything but absolute power concentrated in the hands of the few while the many are totally subjugated and oppressed, then you are fooling yourself. Everything else that you might think is idealized fantasy fiction about a utopian world that cannot and will not EVER exist.
Communism, fascism, democracy. None of this human level shit is going to matter in the 22nd century when robots take over and put all the shitty human survivors in zoo's next to the apes and monkeys.
sorry if I dont understand but if we vote for politicians already and they dont vote in our interests why would I work better in workplaces?
I'm not sure why you keep posting pics of Billy Herrington tbh. It's awfully repetitive.
from the communist manifesto (marxists.org
Jesus, that's some utterly shit logic.
basically, workplaces are smaller scale than entire nations of 330 million people. It would be much easier to just account for all people in a given organization so they can all vote in their OWN interest rather than electing a boss to represent them
Which system are you talking about there?
Jesus, whoever said that was a moron.
This is pretty enlightening tbh, although probably not for the reasons you'd hoped.
It is interesting, your inability to see anything other than as two bipolar extremes.
This is getting rather repetitive.
The end goal of any political system is immortality. Historically, that meant breeding the cattle-people while victimizing their young and retaining the most subservient victims to engineer into the next generation of victimizers. A lot of historic human leaders have been really profoundly stupid, remember.
Only in modern times are we at last getting materialistic and peaceful enough to broach into biological immortality.
It's more the fact that you're spamming ancap memes despite the fact that I'm not an ancap tbqh.
It's funny watching commies grapple with the fact that fascists haven't been a coherent political movement since 1945.
You prop up the corpse of fascism because you need it. It's the only system that makes your utterly shit system look less utterly shit.
I'm not sure why I expected any more tbqh.
I guess that means I win then.
It's fun watching you flounder tbh.
not mine, is OUR meme
I think we've identified the problem.
LOL someone blackpill this newfag
The end result of communism is a tyrannical society where everyone must follow the word of their designated authority figure or be killed.
How'd I do?
Both are correct. Socialism and capitalism remain untried systems. Capitalism purged of cronyism would probably work better than fascistic socialism, but socialism purged of fascism would probably work better than crony capitalism.
Anyone who attacks communism is a lying capitalist.
Please for the love of god, read Adam Smith. Also, corporations naturally consolidate due to competition. The very essence of competition eventually will self destruct.
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The base problem is that slavers are born of slave races, and abolitionism has won only in law, not in genes or spirits. Humans too often remain slaves, so they too often remain slavers. The desperation to flee the slave-nature when expressed through power over others creates in others a desperation to flee the slave-nature.
As long as human leaders remain slaves defying slavery, which is to say as long as human leaders remain emphatically “not”-slaves, true prosperity will be hard to achieve.
This seems to be a common line of reasoning around here. I wonder why.
read Adam Smith.
I see no reason to tbqh.
I started on Adam Smith. It isn’t inevitable that capitalism is contra-egalitarian. Egalitarian capitalism works if people are honest and charitable - under conditions of honest charity, it should be noted that MANY systems work!
"All for ourselves and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind. As soon, therefore, as they could find a method of consuming the whole value of the rents themselves, they had no disposition to share them with any other persons." except capitalism
It's all so tiresome tbqh.
That's literally the definition of freedom - the ability to do something without expectation of unreasonable retribution. See: you can't be shot for saying something someone doesn't like.
But I'm not surprised you can't understand this, you are stupid enough to be a Communist after all.