I'm here to start a discussion one what would be needed to do an effective revolution.
Lets take the catalan case right now: It seems they have reached and Impasse and the EU is looking away as Spain practices Lawfare on the Catalans, and since it's the power of Law, if the catalans do not revolt, they will sooner or later be squashed by reformisim.
How could they actually do it? What would be the necessary steps % of population necessary to achieve such a feat.
My guess is that you need 2% of the population absolutley commited and a 5% pseudo commited.
What's the matter CIA, don't have enough funding for your wargames scenarios? :^) In all seriousness, you can assume that most of the population will sway to the revolters. Should I back the federal government who have been incompetent in the war, or these local insurgents that have been securing food and killing off the gang members? A revolution is comprised of brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, family people pushed far enough that they decide to push back.
Gabriel Reed
The statistic I see thrown around is 5% bare minimum and 10% for a decent chance of success.
Not CIA. Regular joe here tired of the Spanish mafia.
We have around 6% that would be commited. However it should be started in a non-violent manner, or violent towards infrastructure.
Matthew Carter
Overall? I can't imagine women being too involved.
Ayden Howard
Yep. People are extremely fed up with the spanish esstablishment lawfare. more women contacted me than men. More men will join once they see its serious.
Isn't the number historically 7% or something like that? The exception of course is a civil war when you'll need a lot more.
Joseph Walker
Anywhere around that. 10% is where your ideas start spilling into the mainstream
Camden Cox
First of all, you can't start a revolution if certain conditions are met first. Ever heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Same shit. Most of the times, you can stomp over the law and the people's rights if their most basic needs are met. They will get angry and pissy if their social networks are being spied by the government as long as they can eat, earn money and enough leisures to numb the brain. No food, no money, no fun= shit will get real. This is just one (and most of the times the main) of the reasons why a revolution starts. Ethnic and ideological (this includes religion) tensions are among others
Josiah Kelly
This makes potential recruits start their own movement because muh killing civilians is bad
Also dear alphabet this is hypothetical and I am not going to commit crimes nor do I endorse them :^)
If your being support by an estblished power, it’s called treason not a revolution.
That’s terrorism
Guerrilla warfare is more psychological than anything else. Assassinate politions/business people who piss of most of the population. Get the established order to cack down on peaceful protesters. This does two things. It makes the established order look bad, and it makes peaceful protesters become violent and join your underground army. Use your violence to do things that increase your popularity. Then target police and military outposts through small guerrilla cells. Both a breakdown of rule of law and mass public support are necessary. Once both are achieved coming to power is as easy as walking into the capital building and declaring yourself to be the new government.
You are aware that at least 90% of the various 'revolutions' around the world were run by (or at least instigated by) some other nations intelligence services, right?
Carter Robinson
For a revolt to be successfully it needs support from the military or military aid from outside all the more so now when the government has tanks, IFVs and Helicopters and an advanced support and communication network.
Isaiah Gutierrez
In this day and age?
Popular opinion. For example, a second revolution in America can not happen unless you have the large plurality of the populace behind you. Mainly because soldiers are normal folks who have families. They care about their families a whole lot more then the federal government (and some do see themselves as serving the Nation and Constitution, not the government). So what would need to happen? A massive government fuck up and a shift towards true tyranny.
The problem is any fighting is going to last…a couple weeks unless the government is suicidal. Brits thought they could put down the American Revolution because it was just Militia Men and philosophers. But if you have 30-40% of the country turned against you and a nice chunk of people who don't know what side they support the opponent is fucked.
Ryder Smith
Step 1: Have a foreign ally to fund you Step 2: Don't surrender
Brayden Lopez
Revolution is by it's very nature, a seditious and treasonous act.
What did he mean by this? You're right on the latter though.
Logan Bennett
The nature of modern warfare requires a revolutionary fighting force to be savy on fourth generation warfare and the necessity to use modern technology fully to your advantage. Think ISIS when it first started with it's surprisingly high quality propoganda videos. If you had a format that merged direct military action with mass media like ISIS did you could win.
Luke Bell
Looks like OP is getting his wish >>>Zig Forums11326320
Benjamin Hall
That post is utter nonsense. It makes no sense even if you take everything it claims as fact.
Nolan King
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Jaxson Miller
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Joseph Reyes
perhaps it is to say that if guns are actually taken away in addition to targeting unconstitutional LEO, critical infrastructure should conveniently fail over a course of a couple weeks.
Having knowledge of critical infrastructure, military and government installations is obviously critical and that knowledge should not be mitigated by a longterm loss of electricity.
