Shortfalls in the German army's personnel and equipment are "dramatically" hindering its readiness for combat, according to a new report. No submarines or large transport planes were available for deployment at the end of last year, the report says. It also points to failures in planning and leadership that have exacerbated existing problems in the military.
The report was published by the parliamentary commissioner for the armed forces, Hans-Peter Bartels. "The army's readiness to deploy has not improved in recent years, but instead has got even worse," Mr Bartels told reporters at a press conference in Berlin. "At the end of the year six out of six submarines were not in use. At times, not one of the 14 Airbus A-400M could fly," he said. Mr Bartels said all of the vehicles were being repaired at the time of the report. The condition of the military's fleet of fighter planes, tanks, helicopters and ships is described as "dramatically bad". The report also says a lack of spare parts and outdated equipment has left "big gaps" in the armed forces. It notes that thousands positions for officers were vacant, resulting in a lack of adequate leadership.
The report calls on the government to pursue reforms "with greater urgency" and increase the defence budget. Germany spent €37bn ($45bn; £33) in 2017 on defence - about 1.2% of GDP, well short of the Nato target of 2%.
The issue of defence spending did not play a major part in recent coalition talks, but Chancellor Angela Merkel has pledged to meet the 2% spending target by 2024. "We will make the best possible equipment, training and support available to our soldiers," Ms Merkel said earlier this year. On Monday, a Nato diplomat told Reuters news agency that "German readiness levels are a serious concern". Germany has for years struggled to modernise its military as it becomes more involved in Nato operations. It scrapped conscription to become a professional army seven years ago, but in 2016 said it was considering a form of national service for civil defence.
Recurrent funding issues have been highly embarrassing. In 2014, it was revealed that tank commanders had covered up their lack of machine guns by using broomsticks painted black during a Nato exercise.
Other Nato members have also started to increase defence spending. The alliance faces a range of security challenges, including the Islamist insurgencies in the Middle East and Africa.
Not at all. Maybe you could teach us how to fire up the ovens again. Like you did back then too, never forget polish deathcamps :^) Also IF you ever invade please nuke Berlin and salt the earth. Thank you!
Well that's the old: Poland has 180 T-72 Germany has 360 Leo2 Germany gives (rather than truly sell) 120 Leo2 to Poland so they can scrap their T-72 because they're shit by new (read: just as old) stuff. And since they're pricier to maintain but way cooler Poland can have less tanks for the same job.
Oh and NATO is now stronger.
Anyone with half a brain can tell what's wrong with that picture. But half a brain is already way more than what the people in charge of military budgets have.
Matthew Roberts
No. In 2014 we simply decided that we had too many tanks to maintain because our budget was so low. It was also a deal to improve relations between Poland and Germany. Today: HURR DURR WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TANKS ANYMORE! Can you see the logic?
John Evans
Is it just simple stupidity though or does someone stand to gain from it?
Austin Cox
Never presume malice where jews stupidity is an answer.
Adam Garcia
I think Occupied Rhodesia could be in Berlin within a week.
No you don't. By feeding you cheap as fuck Leo2 Germany makes sure you rely on KMW for support for your tank fleet, meaning KMW can bribe all your tank related generals with cushy retirement plans perfectly legally.
And that's exactly what they need to cripple any plans of domestic polish tanks forever.
Hudson Myers
Guess who's their Defense Minister
Jose Adams
Ursula von der Leyen Aka: and my favorite:
Isaac Howard
Poland will do you a favor once they invade you should be used to foreign invasion by now
They will push for an EU Army next so that all EU armies are equally cucked
Jonathan Wood
But German ZOG would intervene in case of an armed insurection meant to remove the post-soviet government. Could you collapse and start again without (((EU))) already?
Just you wait until we reinstate monarchy
What does the chicken symbolize?
But Chancelor Schroeder said that german repentance is over so German government started to look for a new perpetrator for the holocauster after paying Priceless 2 billion dollars yearly Israel ransom they demanded
Presumably they want to a) starve out the Bundeswehr in favour of a EU army and b) use it as a pretext to militarize the police, who are infiltrated by Turks/Kurds/Arabs and buddybuddy with Antifa in some locations.
Ian Jenkins
Basically sacrifice the German army to cuck the Polish army since it's the last major military power that could resist them? I guess that makes sense.
Do it and take back the fuckers over here.
Jack Flores
Technically we already are a monarchy but the regency government is ZOG that will certainly be purged During Christ 2nd Coming
That's a false statement. None of the songs were banned. They simply planned to make a new version of the book that didn't contain the following songs anymore: Das Panzerlied, das Westerwaldlied, Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss, because the old version was printed in 1991, and less than 10% of those books were actually available, because most had been damaged or lost over time (or were taken home by soldiers for "training" purposes and never returned). And guess which song we were ordered to sing a few weeks ago during battalion assembly? Das Westerwaldlied, all of it. Nobody gives a fuck what Flintenuschi thinks is racist or not. We do what we do. derstandard.at/2000057471753/Von-der-Leyen-verbietetKameraden-singt
The next company always sings "Es ist so schön Soldat zu sein", which was composed in 1939. Literally nobody cares.
This is true though. We NEED more equipment. I am not even saying newer or better, just more. When you can't even give every guy a training grenade, or every team a fucking functioning radio, then you fucked up.
Jeremiah Powell
Guess it's time for Poland to save Krauts from themselves or what's left of it.
Frivolous posting is what got them into debt in the first place.
Asher Morris
Say that 1v1 on my face and not online and see what happens.
Brandon Foster
Say that 1v1 on my face and not online and see what happens.
Ryder Diaz
The greeks are going to be mono-replying in every thread just to spite you now, especially since he got dubs doing it. the trouble with you germans is that your mistakes are as well implemented as your successes.
Juan Myers
Kick moderate rapefugees from your country and you'll have the money
Wyatt Gutierrez
Doesn't the EU effectively own the Greek government but can't actually manage to extract any value from it?
Cleaning a pig sty isn't fun either, yet it must be done to enjoy bacon.
Carter Martin
Naw, sty rotation is where its at and it doesn't fuck the landscape up what so ever.
Nolan Rogers
battle bear
Wyatt Richardson
A far-right Poland invading Germany would be Max irony.
Gavin Hughes
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Jose Lee
You mean aside from the fact that it was written by people who literally had American guns pointed at the back of their heads, purposefully engenders political stasis and dysfunction and doesn't even make an attempt to base itself in anything but naked legal positivism meaning any "rights" or "freedoms" it guarantees are nothing but a arbitrary privileges granted by the state to be rescinded or curtailed when deem expedient.
Andrew Roberts
The Greeks are too lazy to accept any state other than their own.
Why doesa it even matter? The only threat to the West are the endless hordes of niggers, but the military is more than capable of wiping them all out if it comes to it. Russia isn't a threat, Ukraine isn't a threat, no country is a threat. The only thing Germany needs to worry about is to save it's people from getting completely replaced by shitskins. How to make a pussified male generation 101
Τα οβριά και τα μουχαμέντια δεν ξεχωρίζουν φλώρους ξανθομπάμπουρες από κάποιον οριακά πιο ανοιχτόχρωμο από το κουραδί της πέτσας τους, όλους τους >λευκούς ή νεκρούς ή δούλους μας θέλουν.
This is what I means when I say the germs lost their northern spirit.
What happened to bravery borderlines stupidity? Never give up and all that.
Jonathan Watson
The German people have been put to sleep by the perfidious anglo and the jew. 70 years of Brainwashing has taken it's toll on the mind of the people. Hard to wake up. I want to see a nice future but everything looks fucked beyond repair
Everything seems lost, but it's the darkest before the dawn.
John Foster
500 μάντρες αρχίδια θα μας κλάσουν. Το μόνο που μπορεί να πάει στραβά είναι να μας τη πέσουν όσο είναι ακόμα τα κομμούνια στη κυβέρνηση. Προσωπικά θα ψηφήσω Χρυσή Αυγή για να μην γίνει αυτό
Friendly reminder that Russian DM was draft dodging motherfucker who escaped mandatory conscription despite Afghanistan war been in its height. He was able to did it because his father was equivalent of the city major (additional points for his father for been minority inclusiveness hire). Entire career of the Russian DM was non military. He is no less civilian than hags above. But it so easy to trick burgers with flashy hat, like you are talking with children.
Actually of top 3 Russian current executive branch positions: president, PM and DM no one was in conscription service everyone dodged draft in USSR which had mandatory conscription. Makes you think.
Polish one is an old trade unionist as well, he's never served.
Jack Diaz
That said, at his previous position as a chief commander of an emergency & rescue service, he did excellent job, miles better than all his predecessors. You should care more about performance than lineage.
Henry Allen
Talking shit about a man who singlehandedly >caused butthurt for almost two decades among the (((MSM))) >Wrote a bill that would make public names of all soviet traitors who performed public functions from voivode (state senator equivalent in terms of importance) and above unfortunately President lech wałęsa was one and dissolved the parliament overnight during vacatio legis
Why did denazified Germany cause more harm than Third Reich could ever dream of? Was it autism?
It would be an even fight, and only if Poland attacks first as fast combat favors the guy who starts the war, so….
They have same personnel numbers, about 175 thousand personnel both. Poland has over 200 active Leopard tanks. Germany has around 200 active Leopard tanks as well. In addition Poland has about 1000 older soviet tanks, but I'm not counting those. Poland is ahead in artillery as well, and their light armored vehicles outnumber Germans. Germany has 6 submarines to Polands 4, and Germany has 37 surface combatants to Polands 32, so a slight edge there. Germany has 104 fighters to Polands 79, a slight edge there as well for Germany.
The main advantage for Poles is they could be in Berlin in under 2 hours. German government wouldn't even get up at night to respond to a threat, so Poland would have potential six hours time to do with as they will before any response even BEGINS organizing.
Jonathan Kelly
Nah even in its current destitute situation Germany is untouchable for Poland. At first there is the Problem that Germany is one of Polands most important trading partners, so the moment they attack Germany the polish Economy gets a heavy kick in the nuts. This would already be a bad start for Poland to enter the war. Then there is the fact that Poland gains nothing from getting to Berlin in two hour, as the German government can abandon the city and move to the old West German capital Bonn and make use of the old Cold War infrastructure installed there, fun fact part of the German government is still in Bonn and hasn't made the move yet to Berlin. In other words the first stage of a war between the current Poland and Germany would start with Poland hurting its economy bad and then getting to Berlin after some fighting, only to learn they have nothing gained but a bankrupt city full of internationalist faggots. Also while the Minister of Defense is currently the useless and insane bitch Ursula von der Leyen, she is mostly just a figure head and desk jockey. The person actually in charge of commanding the Bundeswehr during its daily operations is the Inspector General of the Bundeswehr, who is currently General Volker Wieker. And if Volker Wieker manages to escape to Bonn, while the civilian government faggots perish in Berlin he will get the biggest Zig Forums boner of any general in the milky way, because he is not only in charge of the entire military during wartime, but Polands attack on Germany would also mean that the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany was broken, which frees the Bundeswehr from all restrictions that have been placed on the German Military since the end of World War 2. This Treaty is the only thing that stops Germany from assembling nuclear weapons, as by Germany's current technological level building a nuclear bomb is as easy as LEGOS. So by attacking Germany first, Poland manages to put Germany under a single ruler, who can call for mass mobilization, use everything the Bundeswehr still has in inventory(including hundreds if not thousand of military vehicles of both the Bundeswehr and NVA) from the Cold War and who can get his hands on weapons of mass destruction of every kind in a matter of weeks, while the German economy starts to have a little surplus since the Germans no longer have to pay for their useless government, cover Berlins dept and the war is temporarily a massive opportunity for the German industry.
How do you lose a machine gun on a tank? They're bolted on for fucks sake.
Hunter Fisher
Aren't those the ones where the filthy kikes prepared to genocide 6 million innocent Poles and were saved just in time by the invading Germans?
Carter Nelson
This "you can't attack your trading partner" myth needs to fucking die. Russia was responsible for literally 100% of the wood in the ships of Victorian England, yet they didn't hestitate to engage in the Great Game. France was Germanys #1 trading partner before WWI, and Soviet Russia their main source of oil before WWII.
Your trading partner is at the top of the fucking list for attacking people.
Please. 9/10ths of this is the sheer surprise of it. Poland can put a bunch of German flags on their tanks and be in Merkels bedroom before anyone realizes a thing, and Poland can have 1,000 tanks and 10,000 armored vehicles in Bonn before the German minister of defense can untangle herself from the 12 niggers tag teaming her to take the priority phone call.
The only hope is using the air force and navy to smuggle out a government in exile. Not the actual leaders of Germany, but a few top tier secretaries who can sit in Brussels pretending like they run the country that is 100% under Polish occupation.
And after three months of occupation when Germans realize the Poles are genociding the Muslims, 90% of the Germans would glue little wings to the back of their t-shirt.
Christopher Campbell
Thing is, Germany is a nuclear country, Poland isn't. Nukes were a mistake.
Christian James
They didn't lose it, it wasn't delivered on time for the exercise and since the exercise was just a simulation, they just simulated having a machine gun. The problem was caused by the fact that the exercise happened in 2014, but the serial version of the Puma IVF was first delivered to the Bundeswehr in 2015. So the Unit who did it went basically with a prototype to the exercise that wasn't fully equipped. Another situation that lead to this was the fact that the Government has no idea if it want's to equip the Bundeswehr to be ready for the chance of a NATO land war with Russia or equip it to be NATOs mercenary bitch that invades far away countries and quarrels with insurgents. The result is that 350 Puma IFV are planned to replace 500 Marder IFVs and while the Puma IFV is a solid upgrade to the Marder IFV, its not build to the specifications that either side wishes for and the low numbers ordered causes the production to be slow.
First I didn't say this, secondly it isn't a myth that starting a fight with your trading partner is a fucking stupid idea and does hurt the economy of the countries doing it big time. WW1 was a fucking disaster for both France and Germany, it cost them both their colonial empires and caused them to be in economic troubles for the most part of the 20th century. Facing mass starvation and losing their best generations. What are you twelve? This idea of the entire Polish Army acting like a bunch of invisible Ninjas is nothing but a sad joke.
Kayden Long
What? Where did you hear that? All the nukes in Germany are American, and answer only to American key codes stored in the Pentagon. Given that you're both in NATO and you actually contribute more, it's far more likely that we'll either aid you or stay out of it.
You understand that practically all of titanium in America during the cold war came from USSR, and Soviets depended on USA for food aid?
Seemed to work when it came to capturing Crimea without a fucking shot fired. Same thing will happen to your country if Poland ever fully develops a set of balls.
That is only the official story. The reality is that Germany is more like Israel when it comes to nuclear weapons, where it is a big MAYBE if they have nuclear weapons or not. The key to understand is that Germany already has everything to assemble nuclear weapons and deploy them and the only one saying they haven't or wouldn't do it is the word of the German government. Germany has military personal trained in taking care and deploying nuclear weapons by the USA. They have the machinery, knowledge and radioactive material to build their own bombs and the technicians, engineers and scientists able to build their own bombs. They also have the experience in running a nuclear program, by assisting other nations in developing theirs. And that is not even talking about the stories of German Submarines transporting nuclear weapons for NATO and then vanishing from everyone eye for a long period or how France made Germany the offer that they can have access to theirs if they want or you know the fact that the submarines that Israel is using for their Second Strike capabilities are build by Germany. You understand that this point doesn't defeat my argument or the point I made? The USA and USSR never went directly to war with each other, because it would have been the end of everything for them. Only in Russian propaganda was there never a single shot, also it took them several days to completely capture the Crimea and everybody knew from the beginning that it was the Russians behind it, so much for stealth. Also the Crimean takeover by Russia started a conflict that still isn't over and that is still financially hurting Russia deeply. Also never.
Lincoln Williams
*goes around his forces* What do you do?
Daniel Gonzalez
To be fair, everyone who is not literaly goatherding nigger have ability to make nuclear weapons. See: Poo-in-loo, Pakinstan
Lincoln Nelson
Last german uranium enrichment facility in gronau was shut down. There are no places to make plutonium. What do you propose to make the bomb from? At best you can make a dirty bomb, and you don't even have ballistic missiles to deliver it with. Need to use an air launched cruise missile, subsonic, with a range of five hundred kilometers.
Your country runs on wood burning plants generating steam for electricity. That technology predates even coal burning plants of 1800s. You have regressed to Africa tier, the only thing that lets you maintain an illusion that you live in a stable country are the funds you steal from EU member states. In all other terms, you are a banana republic.
Robert Green
The more Germany tries to assert its independence in the future the more hostile the US and greater anglosphere will become. Germany discusses gas pipeline with Russia ukranian revolution happens, Germany votes against US military actions in Libya the UK leaves the EU, Germany says it wants an independent military the migrant crisis happens. The next 20 years of military action will be the US trying to contain emerging powers Germany is Europe's emerging power.
Ethan Martinez
The same bankers control both.
Tyler Mitchell
From the close to 1 t of enriched uranium Germany has still in storage for "scientific research". Germany owns more enriched uranium than India or Israel. Little boy used only 64kg of enriched uranium, but with modern technology you need as little as 16kg for a working nuclear bomb. So Germany has enough material to build between 15 and 62 nuclear warheads on the spot. This doesn't favor in the fact that Germany has the technology to build new facilities in a short time. Even the nuclear bombs the USA has in Germany are still deployed by aircraft. Germany has several options(aircraft, submarine, artillery) to deploy a nuclear war had on Poland if it desired to do so, thanks to the fact that the industrial strong regions of Poland are also close to Germany. Ajo and Poland has no real way of defending against this thread, because they would never know when the nuke comes and they cannot intercept all of Germany's attacks to 100%.
Cameron Bailey
K den.
Connor Sanders
You have the highly enriched uranium needed for a nuclear bomb? Post sources.
You are retarded. Your country can't make a nuke in one day while Polish tanks are raping you.
