Russia's new nuclear weapons

So what's the gist on this one Zig Forums? The media is going crazy about how he's trying to nuke the West and it's an obvious attempt at inciting new Cold War rhetoric. Is he doing anything other than re-establishing MAD?

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Why does he support the terrorist Ramzan Kadyrov?

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Can't say I'm surprised.

Do you believe him?

They have undetectable silent torpedoes that are powered by nuclear batteries and can drive around the planet for 50 years in the marianas trench, and carry as a warhead the Tsar Bomba full 100mt version with radiation enhanced by cobalt to make it more radioactive than our entire arsenal put together. It generates a radioactive tsunami that can take out 100 miles of either coast.

Their missile tech is about 25 years ahead of ours, mobile, more numerous. Their warheads are stealthy, can maneuver, and they shit decoys and EMP grenades nonstop. There is literally no way to intercept them, our interceptors have trouble catching fucking Scuds, 1950s targets and satellites in fixed predictable orbits.

Zig Forums has known this for years, only jingoist retards at the Pentagon are satisfied with the fucking minuteman missiles.

The only new thing is that they actually made Project Pluto real. But… of course they were. They're fucking Russians.

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See this is how I know you guys aren't from here. We have discussed status 6 and the other superweapons multiple times.

Because you're a soyboy, that's why.

Because Russia is a superpower that can take over Berlin, Paris and Washington, but can't sort their shit out in Chechnya. That's why they have to keep a rat like Kadyrov around.

Kadyrov had his men assassinate someone at the Russian capitol, Kadyrov is Putin's Gregor Clegane that he can use to intimidate his neighbors.

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Russians brag a lot and I mean a lot. The reason they do that is to maintain their clout and relevance. That's what you do when you consider yourself a superpower allwhile your economy is in the process of falling behing Australia and Spain.

So yeah I have my doubts, as always with the notoriously loud mouthed Russians.


Funny coming from someone who's hiding his Russian flag. Chances are I've been here longer than you, faggot.

flags get hidden by clicking show post options and limits, and selecting hide flag. the flag then disappears, it doesn't turn into a question mark. if i was using a proxy or tor my id would read 00000 not an actual code.

lurk. more.

Tell me about Strelok, why does he hide the flag?

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Standing

Because he is a mild KGB dictator ruling a collapsing second world power.

is kill

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Edit that with CoD Ui and points flashing for each kill

They truly are subhuman.

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That actually describes California. California runs the Democrats. Democrats run half of America and growing thanks to illegal immigration. townhall.com/tipsheet/alexnitzberg/2018/02/21/cesspool-in-san-francisco-garbage-excrement-drug-needles-blight-city-n2452446?amp=true

breitbart.com/california/2015/08/25/san-francisco-steps-up-poop-patrols/

no da US is the true shithole!
Yeah whatever you need to tell yourself lad. Let's roll some facts about Russiaput eh.
I don't know how anyone who is not completely delusional or just completely fucking insane could look up to Russia.

Because it takes a Chechen to kill a Chechen. Because it's similar to US relations with Saudi Arabia.

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Seems like dick-waving to me.

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Fucking kek, according to just about every MSM outlet Putin literally said "You will listen to Russia now".

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See? What did I tell you?


Not yet lol but they're getting there.

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It really isn't. Chechnya, for Putin and his predecessors, is ultimately about maintaining the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation. You see Caucasians and Chechens in particular have a history of rising up against Russian central authority. Which wouldn't be much of a problem if the Caucasus wasn't part of Russias soft underbelly and Russia wasn't a huge multi-ethnic shithole with plenty of separatist tendencies to begin with. So then what did Putin do to keep Chechnya calm and compliant? Simple, he bribed two of the most powerful if not the most powerful Chechen clans, the Yamadaevs and the Kadyrovs, to squash the Islamists and keep Chechnya loyal to Moscow and the rest (Kadyrov's father being assassinated, the bloody rivalry between the Kadyrovs and Yamadaevs, the ongoing bribes etc) is history.

This has absolutely nothing in common with US Saudi relationship which is based on little more than oil (and, in the past, countering Soviet influence in the ME).

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The cold war never ended and you know it. We just pretend a little more now.

Get the fuck outta Zig Forums you commiefornia crackhead

I honestly dont know how I could even logically argue with slav boo posters like this. Facts logic and reason mean nothing in the face of this insanity.

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Sad but true.

Because Putin was riding naked on a horse! If that doesn't prove to you that he is the saviour of the white race then nothing will and you are most likely a kike. Don't you understand?

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When living comrades are bleeding out, you tend to not give a shit about those who are already dead.

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If California is no longer the US then doesn't your argument that the US is worse then Russia have no validity

I haven’t seen America worse than Russia retard. I was calling California a bigger shithole than Russia.

To be fair they seemed to be more busy looting dead comrades then helping anyone.

Ok, now I know you are just retarded.
Go and show me a single screenshot where you can see someone "looting" a dead body in .

When the camerman walks over to the two rifleing through the dead mens kits at 1:04

They are taking off the carrier and equipment, because:
a) they may or may not be of use for the living, especially medical equipment, ammo and comms
b) you don't want to carry a dead man with 50 kilos of kit still on him
c) it will cause trouble when stuffing him into a body bag
d) it could cause trouble if the medical staff who had to unpack all of these bags would stumble upon a grenade in a pouch
Pic one: you can see two grenades lying on the groud next to the body.
Pic two: they are trying to remove the chest-rig
Pic three and four: He appears to be removing gauze pads, no money or valuables.
If they were truly looting they would go after valuables, like watches, or electronics, which would be located at the wrists or most likely in a pocket of the pants.
I agree that this is very macabre, taking stuff from a dead burning body, but I would be careful with passing judgement from maybe four seconds of video.

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What's Russian for "Witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle-station"?

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He was calling California shitty.

There are more muslims in Moscow than in California, more abortions in Moscow than California.

Bane?

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Dude Russians eat their own soldiers when they run out of rations, the only thing strange about that is that they didn't pull out meat that's already cooked.


Соблюдайте мощь этой полностью оперативной космической станции.

This.
Most of the stuff Putin said only confirmed shit we already knew or suspected. For example "Kinzhal" anti-ship missiles are already in limited service (they were nicknamed "GZUR" until now after the name of the program).
For the RS-26 Rubezh they started trials in 2011 (they should be getting in service this year).


That shit however is actually new.
And very real until recently it was treated more or less as a hoax despite the fact it made sense if you knew about soviet nuke history.
It's the shit called "Status-6" in the Nuclear posture review of 2018.

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I knew we were in for some bad shit in the 90s when our "scientists" at DARPA rediscovered scramjet tech when they bought a bunch of GLL designs from a corrupt official in Ukraine. At least we have thoroughly researched fag farming.
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Don't forget that Russia and China also both have a mobile underground missile silo system instead of a fixed one like the US does.

Have a memberships to Blacked?

Is it true or is it simply what they want you to think, their governments have a history of pretending the truth doesn't exist like with gulags, Stalin and Tienanmen Square.

Wait, what?

Probably some sort of underground railroad networked ICBM silo system

I think he means mobile and underground, not a literal tunnel boring nuke. Although that would be cool, it could only travel at about a meter a minute. Mobile launchers aren't accepted in America mainly because Americans themselves would never stand for a nuclear weapon being driven around a national park or worse, a highway with civilian traffic on it.

But they do have all of the advantages of naval, air and silo combined. They're relatively mobile and hard to hit, given that they can move about 30-50km in the time it takes for enemy nukes to arrive. Like a bomber they can be recalled and are visible - user can choose to park them, or move them visibly into position to signal a ready state to an enemy. Can't shoot them down or sink them, and they're easier to mesh with a land based defense network.

It was only about territorial integrity during the Soviet Union. Russia wouldn't give two shits about Chechnya if it weren't for the fact that they have oil/serve as an important transport point for oil. That's literally the only reason Russia involves themselves with Chechnya. Everything else is just nationalist pandering used to justify atrocities committed by both sides but mainly the Chechens. If you can be bothered to waste a TV show episode's worth of time, watch part one and two of embed related. It's got holes and doesn't cover everything, but it's probably one of the more neutral run downs of everything that's happened since the first Chechen war in the 90s.

He should nuke the west. DC first.

How do people not see what he's doing? There's no other reason for him to announce his new toys.

Our ABM defenses are shit-tier. It's designed to handle small BM threat numbers and only covers a small area, primary our silo fields and some strategic locations like Vandenberg, DC (Raven Rock, Mount Weather, PAOC, Pentagon, Greenbrier), Elmendorf/Eielson/Wainright, Offutt, and Peterson/Cheyenne Mountain. The rest of the country is left to burned, go blind, and die. It's one of the reasons why we've been forward staging nukes in places like Turkey since the late-80's. The Russians both in ABM technology and general ICBM/SLBM tech are light years ahead of us.

See, this Sterlok knows


Our road-mobile TEL were some cool shit man. Too bad this country is full of whiny fucking cucks.

That's what leftists and Chechens claim which is flat out wrong (protip: neighboring Dagestan serves as a gateway to the Caspian and it's bounties, Chechnya OTOH is landlocked. Chechnya ≠ Dagestan).

Look up Chechen oil reserves and production and compare that to the reserves and production in Russia proper.

Look up when oil exploration started and since when Russians have been squashing Chechen uprisings.

Get it?

Oh and one more thing, you know what has changed since the fall of the Soviet Union? No more South Caucasian socialist buffer states physically keeping the west at bay. Currently both NATO and the US are literally at the Russian border and expanding their influence by the day.


There is one: his boys getting humiliated in Syria.

Putting aside nuclear torpedoes and focusing on missile tech, is the correct countermeasure to a missile that can maneuver, dump missile-fooling debris, etc. not a powerful laser that gives no fucks about things like your maneuverability?

Ace Combat style defensive megastructures when?

Top kek.

Tbh Moscow isn't the most cucked Russian city, Saint Petersburg beats it by a huge margin. It simply has a sea port so it's handy to import drugs there and sell cheap, like half of the youth are drug addicts. Due to such degeneracy city is known for its hipsters, liberals, porn production, gay bodybuilders etc etc. It started in 1990's - Saint Petersburg is a native city for Putin so he and his criminal friendos are to blame for drug traffic. The only benefit of Saint Petersburg is less "minorities" compared to Moscow.

Ehm, what do you mean by a "battle-station"?

It is a reference to the Death Star from Star Wars.

Then the proper translation would be "Узрите мощь этой вооруженной до зубов боевой станции".

The video that's playing in the background is from over ten years ago for the old Satan rocket.

Vladimir "saviour of the white race" Putin has you all fooled again.

Mate, that's what your government is saying.
It was considered a hoax exactly because the Russian leaked stuff about it in a quite ostensible way that made you think it was either a warning or pure disinfo.

The problem is that this isn't public knowledge.
If it was, our citizens would demand better missiles.


You mean the vid that proves we're aiding ISIL and willing to start WWIII for Israels plans?


Wars are always about people, and our instincts. Never about things. Only maxists think they're about things.

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China has dug an insane network of tunnels to hide it's mobile ICBMs.
That way instead of having lots of silos and lot of nukes that could possibly be nuked first they can strike from thousands of sites outside the tunnels, even with not a great number of nukes.
It's their deterrence policy, they don't have many nukes but all those they do have, have a 100% chance to be capable of launch after a US attack.
It's a cheap and smart solution if you ask me.

Half a dozen confirmed dead mercenaries who were working with the ISIS Hunters? How humiliating. Meanwhile, your based president and the mad cuck Mattis are nakedly protecting ISIS from counter-terrorist forces all so they can destabilize a sovereign nation for Israel.

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Is it because the tunnels are capable of surviving a saturated bombardment, and you'd have to put exactly where the underground nukes are? If that's so, then I guess being secretive also helps, otherwise simply nuking all possible entry points could work too.

Thank you, Putin heika

This is a result of game theory.

If America and Russia both have a clear shot at each other, neither will fire because the other would have time to retaliate before it got hit. It's a Mexican standoff.

This ensures peace.

However through NATO proliferation, America has moved it's nukes to the borders of Russia, ensuring they won't have time to strike back, in contravention to NPT treaty. And America has moved ABM shields to Russian border, ensuring Russia might not be able to retaliate, in contravention to ABM treaty. Thanks Bush and Obama. This means that America is slowly but surely building the ability to hit without being hit back.

This ensures armageddon.

Russia is simply returning the balance, by ensuring it can hit back, it means the retards in the pentagon won't feel safe pushing the button. Look at how close America came to nuking Russia - Hillary said she would retaliate to a cyber attack with a nuke, and would shoot down Russian fighters over Syria to enforce a no-fly zone. We were 10 seconds to midnight and no one ever admitted it because no one wanted to criticize the Wicked Witch of the West during her campaign.

Russian politicians all have children and property in the west, including America. No matter how scared you are of this whole circus that's set up just to keep idiots on their toes, the Russian government will not fire nukes at their own kids.

Re-read my post, where did I say the Russians would fire first? The danger is the idiots in America will…

Even so I seriously doubt it, there's many reasons why they wouldn't even if the Russians didn't fire back.

Alright, the sex worker one is clearly Moldova by any logical/coherent standard. That's just propaganda when it doesn't even have sauce.

It's a mixed thing.
First China PLARF (ex-2nd artillery corps) doesn't seem to build hardened shelter for long range ammo (conventional or otherwise) at all in their garrisons, meaning ALL their Cruise Missiles, SRBMs, MRBMs, IRBMs and finally ICBM explody parts are stocked off site, in those mountains tunnels. Properly ID-ing where the ICBMs are is looking for a needle in stack of needles even if you map out all the access points, that's hundreds and hundreds of them (from OSINT data there where 250+ that had been mapped out around 2010).
Second: It's actually extremely hard to hit shit under a mountain, it's already hard to fuck up heavily hardened shelter without resorting to plasma core melting from a direct nuke hit, but with under-mountains-shelters you can realistically come up with solutions that will stop (deflect really) basically any regular nuclear attack even right outside the entry (S-shaped tunnels, multiple concrete blast doors, etc…).
Third: There is virtually no limit to your storage space but the mountain size minus 60m of rock in all directions, meaning you can stockpile, food, fuel, engineering equipments so even in if the US manage to find, then accurately hit, then properly collapse all the entries, the soldiers inside still have a fair chance of digging their way out and nuke the US.

All in all it means that in the case of an all out nuclear attack there is too much that can go wrong for the US and China might have a retaliation option.
Which is plenty enough for deterrence because even if the US unloads all their nukes at China, it's also neigh-impossible to realistically wipe-out China hundred of +1 million inhabitants cities (and God know how many of +100k and smaller towns…)
There will likely be survivors and those survivors will likely have access to nukes.
That's exactly what you need for deterrence.
No more, no less.
It's a minimalistic approach.

If we stray away from realpolitik for a bit, and only look at the technological aspect of it, does it mean that even the blast of a full-powered tsar bomb is not enough if it's not a direct hit? Or do you need specially-designed nukes for this task?
So even a mere 100m high mountain could house a nuke-proof shelter?

And now they have a bargaining chip to both disrupt the US politically and have a decent trade policy so they can start making money again.

Blame Obama and Bush for this shit and the Democrats for going to cash this one in so they can jump on Trump's back for supporting Russia if terms are favorable for Putin.

Link related to Bush leaving the ABM armscontrol.org/act/2002_07-08/abmjul_aug02

Russia is economically isolated from the rest of Europe right about now with sanctions put on them from Obama so they're sandbagging right now.

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Not quite 1920s and 1930s Germany, but getting there.

Because it's easier to keep land as a buffer against your enemies that way than to cede it to enemies.

Pretty much, it will tank gamma and a nuclear bunker buster won't go through the mountain itself.

They'll be shaken up but they'll still be alive.


That's the Chinese wishfully thinking that the US will even try to invade for a landwar and won't retaliate in an economic war with a hard blockade.

Now, if Russia decides that they'd team up with China to defend them in the event that China decides it will really make Taiwan part of it's own country or the South Koreans changing hands from the US to more Asia specific relations with some political manipulation to gain the largest shipyard in the world for their own gains

Xi making power plays to become Eternal Chairman also works against the US since he has the means and the will to make China s superpower rather than just a regional power like Russia has always tried to be.

The main issue with the US is that they keep everything (Economics, Military Purpose, Politics and Diplomacy) separated with two of those (politics and diplomacy) being schizophrenic and changing every few or so years, sometimes within the same decade.

If they can't get that right, they'll cede control to the Chinese economically (as in they'd take control of markets and resources, not surpass the GDP) and the Russians diplomatically and politically.

Of course THAT is enough, because it's gonna vaporize most of the mountain, the fire ball of a Tsar bomba at HALF power is 8km wide!
You need something accurate above the Megaton (which isn't that common, +megaton warheads are city erasers, no-one cares for their precision) or something that has been designed specifically to drill deep enough (like American B-61 series).
The problem with that is always a question of where to hit and what's the layout under the mountain, unless you have an exact idea of what they're doing and how you can't really design your bombs for it (back to the needle in the stack of needles).

It's essentially battleship design, except there is virtually no limit to how much armor you can put on it because concrete is cheap and China has all the manpower they ever need to dig…

And they don't need to do it everywhere… they just need to do it once, leak it and no-one will ever be 100% sure they haven't done it elsewhere (that's how deterrence works).

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No, my good friend, it is the public's fault we're in this mess. I the late 50's and earily 60's anti-nuke and anti-war groups levied political and public opinion using lies, misinformation, and fear-mongering to create massive public outrage against Nike sites near urban areas and the development of the Safeguard and Sentinel Programs, especially by playing up the MAD theory. Then those same groups went to work in lobbying Congress against any sort of CONUS based ABM and cucking our ICBM fleets. By 68' most our CONUS-based systems like Nike-Ajax, Nike-X BOMARC, Nike-Hercules, Nike-Zeus, Spartan were all shitcanned. It's the same reasons Reagan's SDI was cucked so heavily eventually shitcanned by Clinton, leading to the current nurtured Missile Defense Agency.

This was most boring and nonchalant announcement of nuclear ramjet imaginable.
I only understood Putin was talking about nuclear ramjet here after one KSP player mentioned it in his livestream.

It is now more than a week later, and I am still ass-blasted, not only because of fucking commie-speak with it's shitty meaningless acronyms but because our glorious leader doesn't fucking understand what the fuck he is talking about even when it comes to the only area I expected him to have expertise in.

Nuclear ramjets are fucking Philosopher's Stone of rocket science one of many, but nonetheless.
Engineers all over the world wanted to make one for half a century now.
Another superpower wasn't able to make it further than prototype stage at the peak of it's power.
You can't just go "huh, it's a rocket. And, huh, it flies very long, and can, huh, steer too."

And you can't just show me a blurry picture and a 3D cartoon, I want that shit paraded around, with glorious 4k live streaming of it flying around the globe straight from the hull, SpaceX style.

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US satellites are so done. We are Star Wars now.

Why does the US refuse to upgrade it's nuclear weapons?

Because literally everyone in government believes nuclear war is impossible. Hillary Clinton even believed she could pursue a conventional war of conquest against Russia, luckily most politicians aren't quite that far gone yet. But they will. They are quite literally senile.

Our ability to keep bodies alive for 40 years more than a century ago, doesn't mean we managed to keep brains fresh for that extra time.

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Why? Since when is Putin a rocket engineer exactly? He's an economical analyst FFS.
He sounds like he has no clue WTF he's talking about because it's probably the case and some high ranking sperg in rockets troops all exited told him to say that (hence the bit in technica lingua that is hardly Putin style of speeches).
He very much understand the strategical significance of the weapons, but I have no doubt he hardly understand the technical part or why it's so awesome.

Out of all his public appearances since his election program back in 2000, Zig Forums-related stuff seemed to be the only thing he was geniunely excited to talk about.

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He's his toy because the chechens can't behave themselves.

Not anymore, at least for the time being.
I expect him to calm the masses in this election by putting the money saved from cutting the Syria involvement into handouts. Just boost the pensions, the ipotec, and the young families payouts for a short while, and all the civil discontent will be gone. And it won't matter if he cuts all of these things later on to go to another war because people will just go "oh well, guess I'll wait until the next elections to really show these bastards".

So expect some uplifting civvie-targeted speeches for the forseeable future. Then he'll go back to the fun stuff.

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