Northrop Grumman isn't giving up!

This is the H03, a spy plane. Very few places on the net are talking about it, so I thought Zig Forums should too.

It's predecessor, the Firebird, had 40 hours endurance 30,000ft ceiling, and two hardpoints for mission payload. The H03 looks to have 4 hardpoints, noise reduction technology, and it probably also operates longer than two days and at a higher altitude.

The key point of these aircraft is that they can be flown with or without a pilot. In other words two passengers can sit in them, go to sleep, and a guy 10,000km on the ground could control the aircraft.

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Looks Zig Forumsomfy. can it carry nukes?

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Is this Burt Rutan again?

Wow this thing has better endurance than Global Hawk

NG has always had good engineers, to bad they don't have good lobbyists.

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Are you about to commissions lewds Bosch?

They'd do better if they hired a bunch of prostitutes and got them to suck dick of Senators in order to get their planes off the ground. Honestly anything would be an improvement over their sale's team.

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While the idea is neat, it presents a lot of engineering problems. Drone controls are easy and rather lightweight to implement. A drone has different safety requirements, doesn't need a pressureized interior or even a heating system.
Adding all of these systems and enough space for a pilot/co pilot to not cramp the fuck up after 40+ hours in that thing will weigh the plane down even further. The canopy also makes the plane aerodynamically disadvantaged compared to a simple drone. The only real "advantage" this version has is that there is no input lag for the pilots, but that's only really important when engaging moving targets or working close to friendlies.
Maybe this is something for ops in Pakistan, so the US can reasonably deny having any BODY in Paki-airspace, while using the drone/plane as backup for raids into Paki-clay.

Might as well repost some fresh fruits.

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autism

This almost seems like a good idea, although if it's supposed to be pilot controlled it'd do nothing but massively increase the workload. Still, it seems like most objectives that this seeks to do could be just made into a longer-range missile and it'd work better.
Can't really see anything wrong with it, but don't quite see a good purpose to it either. Maybe link it to the flight computer to influence felt G-forces or something.
Find me a situation where we needed to hit 100+ targets simultaneously and could fly a cargo plane overhead.
No comment.
No comment.

None of those pack the pure hilarious punch of Fresh Fruits, but still pretty good.

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Had not a paki shot down a pajeet like this?

WHY IS THERE AN ENTIRE FUCKING INDEPENDENT ROBOT TO PUSH A BOMB OUT OF A BOMBER?
WE'VE HAD SYSTEMS THAT DO THIS MORE CHEAPLY SINCE THE 1930s
WE HAVE FUCKING GRAVITY
WHY

Gravity isn't free

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I expect this stupidity from the nips but not from the bloody yanks.

Would you expect it from jews? Because that would explain everything.

Because you can't sell gravity.

That's where your wrong kiddo!

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What's so bad about this? When planes were a novelty and you wanted to kill infantry you could drop a bunch of lead flechettes from a plane and save yourself some explosives.
Lead is cheap and always available. Shaping it into flechettes can be done for cheap too, since it's fucking lead. Keeping a box of them on your plane, and dropping them once you see an infantry formation marching along a street. It's a cheap method to kill a bunch of French guys. I thought you Brits were into that sort of thing.

It's kind of neat to read the official day-to-day war diaries from WWI. Units new to the front tend to describe every sighting of aircraft, including number and direction, then as the war goes on they just start recording attacks or shootdowns, and eventually it just becomes a footnote with "Cpl So-and-so killed by aircraft" or not mentioned at all.
Most of those guys had probably never actually seen an airplane before the war, and by its end they were an everyday occurrence.

Because the air force keeps recruiting liberal arts majors instead of physics majors.

I don't think it's actually meant for manned 40hr missions.

When you're getting into that kind of duration, you actually need a toilet. Diapers/catheters only go so far.

It's even more interesting to think some of those planes they wrote about are still flying.

When will the chair force ever realize they need to devote more resources to CAS? They really need to design an A-10 replacement that doesn't compromise on armament or the gun, but instead the decide to go with ac-130 bcus cowadooty and the f-35 because lockheeb told them it was the invisible™ 5th gen™ multirole fighter™ of the future.

To reduce robot unemployment.

Did… did it just print a man?

You can't just expect gravity to do all the work; also balloon bombs aren't stupid

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You know what, it wouldn't be the first time a leaf and bong started a new mutt tradition.

Nip bro, I like you, but the balloon bombs were pants on head retarded. Its a good idea on paper, set large swaths of forest on fire to tie up resources of an enemy force. Problem came with execution. Winds carried the payloads way off target and I think only one minor fire in Canada was linked to the Nip balloons. And the Nips forgot about the rather robust United States Forest Service. AKA the guys that taught the Army how to jump out of planes to do their job faster.

US flag and throwing mutt around, for shame. Anyways high-class prostitutes are already part of the lobbyists' toolkit.

Ah the USFS, the one government organization I will never ever give disrespect to.

And they have the best fucking stories.

Unsung heros.
sage for off topic

I've had this idea rattling around in my head, might as well pitch it here.

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It's already been thought of.
It's a great idea on paper.

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A mechanic's creeper
As far as the bombs themselves would be concerned you could just fill 55 gallon drums with Napalm.

I actually knew that was the name, but figured it'd be better to describe it rather than risk people not knowing what it was If we were going full civilian force, then barrels would probably be the standard.

What about center of gravity? So much weight shifting backwards might cause a nose-up attitude and risk a stall.

The way I envisioned it, you'd have one bomb right at the door and maybe two on the rails. So one would be dropping out as the other two began to move backwards.

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I'm going to have to save that for the next time some faggot goes on about "those deadly baby killing Assad barrel bombs"

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CG should not be an issue for any aircraft commonly used as a skydiver jump plane.
Since a Cessna caravan commonly takes 16 jumpers in the cargo area and each jumper weighs around 250lbs (not counting equipment) you have a potential bomb load north of 4000lbs.
Of course it would be necessary to add additional weight for a deployment system for our bombs so we would lose some potential load but we could probably still get >3500lbs of payload in there, pleasant of bombs to do some real damage. I think Iran even uses caravans to shoot hellfires and their fellow goat fuckers.

I could give more accurate numbers if I had a C208 operating handbook around with the Weight and Balance table or if I just talked to a sky diving outfit that uses one but this was just some napkin math.

If that makes you feel any better the greatest testament to the Hog's legendary toughness is that the biggest and most advanced Air Force in the world has been trying to kill it for decades with no success.

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Speaking of using common airplanes for war, piper cubs strapped with bazookas were used in ww2, apparently with great results. Reminder that the cub stalls at a 35kn.

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This is Model 401 from Scaled Composites, the nickname is "son of ares". Maybe it's going to be doing CAS.

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Why does that plane look like it's made out of ABS?

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that is a german plane dumbass

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Fucking Burt Rutan coming in to save the day, yet again. I read about the 401, i thought it's whole thing was a stealth recon(with a small payload bay in the production model) for relatively cheap. Didn't realize it was a followup on the mudfighter. I don't see space for a 30mm on the 401, even a larger version, unless they extend the fuselage(a lot).


Burt rutan basically invented moldless composite aircraft. I'd bet this is the same; some type of foam(perhaps modern aluminum foam?) covered in fiberglass.
It's very easy to manufacture in small or large quantities compared to more standard ribbed and riveted construction, but quality control becomes more of an issue than other methods at larger production rates.

Probably a gunpod?

It's a demonstrator first of all, it's designed to show new ways to manufacture an airplane. The final version won't look anything like it, the CAS bird might just be manufactured using the same techniques and be a cheapo stealth jet.

Also…… Considering this is scaled composites, this isn't just a regular old CAS plane with some tweaks. It's likely a whole new way to do CAS. Burt Rutan is known for thinking outside the Box that "the box" is in. Now, the people on this board who are concerned with this shit, one of them at least, thinks the future CAS airplane isn't going to have a traditional cannon. Likely a short snub nose launcher like the M230, or something even more exotic like caseless gyrojets accelerating to way beyond what even the GAU-8 can manage, or new ways to do cluster munitions.

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No, that was supposed to be a hologram. But why?


So first we see a single manned plane being escorted by a formation of drones. Very plausible, so far so good.

Then we see a lo-fi 3d render of a human face being projected as a hologram in the HUD. Why? What benefit does this confer on the pilot?

Next we see a drone deploying a cruise missile to engage an AA emplacement. The missile looks about on par with what is currently in use and may be able to do what it is shown doing. Good.

Then we see a remote command center with another holographic display, this time showing the whole world. Again, why?

The command center does have a display of the pilot vitals, which is good because it can notify medical staff of a problem before the pilot is aware of it or incapacitated.

But then we get another pointless hologram. This time showing the pilot standing upright with his arms out like a CG human model that hasn't been properly rigged yet. What benefit does this provide to anyone?

Next we're shown a cargo plane carrying a large cylindrical object that you could be forgiven if you assumed it was a bomb. This is fine, you don't need a dedicated stealth bomber to engage ground targets when you have air superiority. But it's being pushed out by a humanoid robot. Why? It's on a track, you don't need a man to push it along that track.

Once airborne it deploys a chute to slow its decent; perfectly normal. But it immediately begins deploying dozens of small missiles that fly in a swarm formation. Again, why? Why can't they be deployed from the back of the plane itself? What is the purpose of this cylindrical device beyond deploying these missiles immediately after it's out of a plane?

Then we're shown the deployment of a specialized cruise missile. Again, the missile looks normal, but what it does it bizarre. Everywhere it flies the power goes out like someone just flipped a switch. If this is by hacking then the missile isn't needed. If this is by EMP then there is no way this missile is concealing an EMP generator as powerful as would be needed for this to happen, and we should see evidence of surges at the plant. Now there is a way to kill a power plant in one hit without explosives; you deploy a cloud of tangled conductive filaments over all the exposed bits to short everything out. But again, you'd see it happen, and you'd probably be able to smell the plant operators from several blocks away when it's all over.

Then we get an air-to-air laser mounted on a fighter, taking out another fighter. No. Just no. While there are air-to-air lasers that can kill missiles and planes, they're in jumbo jets. The turret on the front it's the laser. The laser and its associated equipment takes up the majority of the fuselage volume. Cramming one with the same capability into a fighter the size of an F-35 just isn't happening now, or in the near future.

A couple of good ideas that may see the light of day, but on a scale from 1 to Dahir Insaat this is a solid Fresh Fruits.

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Bazooka Charlie

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I thought I was the only one who did that.
He was so pissed off, jej