Is this a good baby's first 1000 yard gun?

Is this a good baby's first 1000 yard gun?

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Nope!

Better hope they don't lose your gun and have you stand around for 2 hours while the dumb fuck runs around between a computer and the back room. Then again you'll be waiting that long just to buy something as simple as a muzzle device or some ammo.

Maybe try a Howa or a Bergara. They’ll be more $$ but you’ll be getting a better rifle that actually had some level of QC. Then worry about an optic.

If you're going to buy a Remington brand firearm then you have to buy vintage(made in ~2005 or older) in order to get something worthwhile.

if you just HAVE to have a NIB gun get a Ruger, Savage, Mossberg Thomson Center, Howa or Tikka instead

Look at the Mossberg Patriot. It's basically the same thing but not Remington. Got it for my first rifle and it's nice, but it was hard finding a nearby range that'll let me shoot .308 that was open to the public around here. My only regret is not getting the wood stock on mine. The stock scope is kinda shit though, looking around for a new one.

Ruger also makes a comparable rifle. Can't remember the name though. It's worth a look.

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Any hunk of shit can be a 1000 yard gun if you've used it enough to know how it shoots. but aside from that, the glass you got on top is much more important than the gun. Even if the gun shoots backwards you can adjust for it with a good scope.


However, if you aint competent at shooting, it don't matter how much money you pour into your gear.

The stock scope isn't shit, it's just designed as an entry level hunting scope and not a 1000 yard scope.

The wood is really nice though. Mossberg is the best option in that price range if you want wood.

Not a good choice, and I own a 700 Long Range version.
If you must have a 700, get the Sendero or the $1,000 CDL. You have to pay big money with Remington to get something that's worth a shit.
absolutely garbage gun. Avoid.
great round
If I were you and I was getting my first bolt gun, I would just buy Sako. Cheap shit is cheap shit. Savage's 114 American classic is also a very nice gun.

there's also the Winchester Super Grade model 70, which is on my must buy list. However, using the 7mm mag in that gun is blasphemy.

I imagine when he says 1000 yard gun he wants to shoot some sensible group, and believe it or not there are shit rifles that aren't capable of grouping well.

Look at Savage's offerings. Howa may have some options.
7mm Mag is a good round but a barrel burner compared to others. If you're handloading, practicing and learning, the round will do 1000 yards easily. You need to git gud.

So see that the 7mm Rem Mag is pretty awesome and all, but I'm not really keen on getting another caliber to stock up on. I own plenty of .30-06 brass though because I own an M1 Garand that I reload for. Would getting a good bolt gun chambered in .30-06 be a reasonable option for 1000 yards?

Yeah, .30-06 can touch those ranges well enough.

This entire fucking thread

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Like this one, right?

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WHY

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The T/CC Compass looks pretty good. Comes in both .308 and meme 6.5

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Fug, it's actually called T/C mods pls fix

What about this one?

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Here's a better picture of the one I posted.

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I understood ruining Mosins when you could buy 50 of them in bulk for under $2,000, but nowadays those suckers are becoming something to cherish, not dress up like a fucking princess.

I would buy that if it was ten times cheaper.

Nice.

You can still get them dirt cheap. I just like the idea of making an old WWII rifle into something modern and tactical, though the one I posted was literally a piece of shit with a bad bore that the kid decided was worthy of hacking up.

fug

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Fuck these ass-backwards laws.

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How does the barrel of that not rip itself off when fired?

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Are they cheaper in Canada because Mosins are $300 unmolested in the US now.

Isn't Remington with Cerberus? I'd avoid. I heard the Savage budget rifles aren't half bad.

Remington and whole bunch others are owned by Cerberus.

We got a live one boys

First of all, 1,000 yards is really, really, really, really fucking far. Like at that point you have to take into account air pressure/temperature/humidity, wind, the bullet's innate drop, the coriolis effect, fucking mirages.
All that means that your rifle must itself be supremely accurate so you can predictably navigate those traps. Some budget shit 783 is going to get its shit pushed in at 1,000 yards.
neither the .308 or 30-06 is reasonable for 1,000 yards. You need more power to launch that .30 slug at those ranges. Think 300 win mag. Or you downsize the bullet and go with the 7mm magnum.

Canada can still import shit, which why they can get SKS rifles so cheap. If there are still crates of surplus nuggets available to export from the motherland (and I presume there is) then the leafs have access to that expanded supply, hence the lower price.

why are you people still obsessed with this piece of shit? It's ridiculously overpriced now. $450 for lathered 100 year old slavshit.

Why though?
Initial cost of the rifle, shitty aftermarket stock, shitty aftermarket scope, gunsmithing work because if you knew enough to do it yourself you'd know enough to not do it – by the time you're done, you'll be in it for about a grand, and all you'll have to show for it is a ruined historical rifle and a sub-par sporter, when you could have just as easily taken that money and straight up bought a Savage or a Howa or fucking anything and got what you wanted right out of the box.

As much as the practice is abhorrent, I can understand why people chopped up Mausers and Springfields and 1917s to turn them into custom rifles. Those are good solid actions, and they were at one time cheap and ubiquitous. The Nagant? Not so much.

Wow, so it looks like things get a little complicated when you go beyond 1000 yards. Okay so super long range is out the window for me, but I was watching TiborasaurusRex
talk about making a budget kit that can get you out to 800 yards max using .308. I might actually look into getting a Savage 10 FCP-SR some time in the future.

I just realized with how popular the Mauser is no one talks about Mauser's new stuff.

I wish 8mm rem/rum was more popular.

No.

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