Eurosatory

It exists?

Well, the MMP were actually developped to replace the MILAN, but since we dropped them in 2009 and the MMPs were scheduled for 2017, we had to buy Javelins in the meantime

Did they purposefully try to make it an ugly mess?

"France is the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won"

Plus we just bombed Syria with you guys some days ago, you already don't remember ?

How else did we almost conquer the entirety of Europe when Napoleon, God bless his name, was Emperor? With a wave of a marshal's baton?

You mean Napoleon the traitor to the republic? Have you forgotten the second half of that war so soon France?

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Do you not know the history of the Republic? Where (((Robespierre))) guillotined half of the French nation for triggering him and his Jacobin sensibilities? Where France was in absolute chaos for a decade before Napoleon, God bless his name, restored the nation to order?
No, I haven't. I never said Napoleon won, you clueless Anglokike. We did almost succeed in conquering Europe, n'est-pas?

Napoleone di Bonaparte the Italian speaking son of minor Tuscan nobility from ethnicity Italian Corsica that had only recently come under french authority and still has a strong independence movement, who changed his name to sound more french after being builied in artillery school for not being French. Is that the Frenchman you are talking about

How is this not a good thing and fantastic example of forwards motion?
That's a wonderfully polite phrasing of 'we lost', m80. I suppose the French language is better suited to expressing that sentiment though.

He's as French as George III, the German-speaking son of minor German nobility from ethnically German Hanover that had only recently come into personal union with England and is now part of Germany, whose descendants changed their names to sound English after being bullied by the nation for not being actual Englishmen. Is that the Englishman you are talking about

The Eternal Anglo striketh once more. I will keep laughing as your mothers, wives, sisters and daughters keep getting raped by gangs of dindu-nuffin 'Asians'.
That's funny coming from a man whose nation spent almost the entire Napoleonic War sitting on his ass doing nothing until Waterloo.

I'm sorry, I didn't count wars waged several centuries ago.

Where did I say Napoleon was French?

You ruined the thread with this single post. I hope you are proud of yourself.

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Anyway, did anybody ITT actually go to Eurosatory?

I firmly believe that the royal family have no legitimate claim to the throne since the Dutch invasion. I would also like to see the Germans (read as all English) driven off the island

segway druid is that you?

Except the English are a Germanic people, whereas France and Italy are culturally and genetically distinct.

Get fucked potato kike.

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When will militaries stop looking like generic clones of each other and start making their own distinct rifles, vehicles, camouflage and gear?
I swear every nu-army noways loves wearing retarded digital camo and shitarded fast MT helmets armed with the exact same M4 clones with the exact same optics on them.

When you get to create your own military that is centred around doctrines that differ from NATO's.

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You are welcome.

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NATO gets kind of excited about parts, weapons, vehicles, and ammo commonality. To be entirely fair to them it is incredibly useful for logistics during joint operations; but if the US got their way every NATO nation would be equipped with entirely American (i.e. overpriced, overdesigned and underbuilt) everything.

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What a thing to notice.

Uwot? English are mostly Roman, pict and belgian.
Hence their dark straight hair and black eyes.

Only Welsh, Scots and Irish have some germanic heritage left over.

And French come from Franks, which were germanic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks

But the BBC taught me that 20% of Britons were based niggers, like that one actor playing the next James Bond.

English =/= British.
Okay, we're done here.

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Ah yes.
The Boxer.
That's the ADF's chosen replacement for the ASLAV, because replacing a 13 tonne wheeled RECON vehicle with one that is over twice as heavy at combat load is an amazing idea.

They still haven't picked out the IFV replacement, god help us it's probably going to be an MBT if the boxer is any indication.

Remember anons, we can take pride knowing that we will never be this retarded.

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That doesn't sound like a bad idea, does anyone here have any more info?

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smh lad

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He's a magapede what would you expect.

I'm not much better-versed on the subject, but there are good and bad examples of the modular vehicle meme. Russia's Armata program is one of the better examples, this thing the bongs are trying is apparently one of the worse ones.

m8.
Yours is at least treaded, ours is wheeled.

The BTR is good and it's wheeled, always have hope lad! besides who will you be fighting? You are like 10k miles away from most hot zones

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Well the BTR is also not almost 42 ton at combat loads.
And yes I do wonder that myself, but hey the ADF sees fit to have M1A1's.
Maybe that's the point they can't be bothered lifting the tanks overseas so they're just going to make everything that DOES go overseas a !not tank to compensate

I'm honestly surprised you don't just borrow stuff from the US when you do oversea operations, it would be hell of a lot cheaper than shipping hundreds of multiple ton vehicles thousands of miles.

modern Europe is so fucking gay

FELIN was never the guns.
FELIN is the infantry system (FELIN stands for: infantryman equipment with integrated data-links)
FAMAS FELIN (don't really exist) or FAMAS Valorisés (modified F1 from the "as new" stockpile) are part of the FELIN system but were never an essential component.

It's the cavalry new real vehicle (IE the one they will actually use for something and is not allowed to be poorly designed). It got so many backups it's ridiculous.
All optical sights are largely impervious to gun fire (they're periscope/episcope kind of thing, breaking the caches does nothing but slightly impair vision.)
Worse case scenario both commander and driver hatches lock open sideways to allow operation with eyeball mk 1.
Basically even if you break everything the crew still has a "normal" armored vehicle awareness.

Oh and all the sensors act as data fusion through scorpion and automated threat tracking (aligning both turrets either remotely or automatically for threat assessment from HQ or system detection depending how it's set, dispersing smokes in coordinated patterns with other vehicles, etc)…
Basically you need the gunner/commander only to press the fire button and a driver…
Meaning it's quite possible you could still make them work WITH DEAD CREW with a software patch.

It can look ugly. One of those can probably take on a M1A2 squad and just murder-rape them…

MDBA MMP, they've (finally) finished testing and are starting to be delivered this year, they're better than javelin on all account (range, payload, guidance, weight).

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Ah yes, I forgot the sleek beauty of English weaponry that had no scandals behind them for being straight up obsolete when they entered production and kept around far longer than its expiration date. daily reminder that the SAS, SBS and all of the other commonwealth equivalents use M4s and FIM92 stingers

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Modular vehicles are a meme since ww2.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entwicklung_series

Dude, I know we don't hear much about it up here, but you should know what's happening down under if you're on Zig Forums.

The Saxon is basically just a cheap armoured 4x4, it did its job perfectly well. As for the HMS Antelope that tends to be what happens when a ship gets the shit bombed out of it. The blowpipe has been replaced with the incredibly sexy Starstreak, and if you're going on about special forces gear they choose that for weight first and foremost, as they are unlikely to have a vehicle to ride around in. Americans should really learn to do a bit more reading before they start shitposting.

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Not brown enough fam.

Well it makes sense why we've got our "armoured" divvies in the most useless butt fuck places in Aus.
Much like the slavs protecting us from Siberian skin walkers our brave tankers have been the only thing holding back the flood of avian assault walkers.

I really wish the negative space in that third image was on the right, it'd be great for an edit

only thanks to Polish Legions
Poles are the strongest race in the world

That pic is of a Canadian Blowpipe team. Wouldn't they be drinking coffee? If they do drink gods warm beverage then don't get angry with me for not knowing. It's not my fault you kids don't call anymore.

Australian DIP units should hold the emus for at least long enough for the rest of the world to mobilise and meet the threat (or just nuke the place). It's a thankless job, but someone's got to do it.

Good shit,probably won't see much production tho

Aren't pretty much all 'future infantry' programs on a semi-permanent hold for the foreseeable future though.

It looks like for a future infantry program you need these:
I suspect that in 10-20 years someone will make a nearly off-the-shelf system, and in 50 years even durkas will have it.

Each of the various projects I'm more familiar with (FIST, FELIN, FFW etc) has most of that, a few add a couple of extra bits as well. If you wanted to issue them as specialist gear today you'd probably need much lighter and more efficient electronics and massively improved batteries. As standard kit they'd need to drop in price fairly heavily as well. 20 years seems a little optimistic in the age of spending cuts and budget slashes.

With the current prices would make more sense if they were only issued from fireteam leaders up to platoon leaders. After all, it's their job to coordinate the infantry, and you don't actually need to give every grunt a night vision device and a laser rangefinder.
The 10-20 years estimate is the time I expect for a "tacticool nerd" to throw together his own barely working system from chink electronics. Which still wouldn't be cheap, but it would mean that you don' t have to reinvent the wheel if you want to make your own set.

I am more interested in this:
LEOCLERC
augengeradeaus.net/2018/06/deutsch-franzoesischer-kampfpanzer-demonstrator-hier-kommt-der-leoclerc/

Have you ever thought abut what would happen if you combine kraut space magic and French militarism?
Have you ever wondered what would happen if you combined a Leclerc turret with a Leopard 2 chassis?
Well, here it is. A Leopard 2 with a leclerc turret. Mainly a test to see if the tech of KMW and Nexter actually work together, and apparently it does.
There currently isn't a lot of info available though.

Yeah I saw but it's not a future tank despite what they say.
It's a Leo 2A6 chassis with a Leclerc turret on top.
The idea is to have an auto-loading tank with proper modular armor design (at least on the turret) on the cheap for export, the Leo 2a6 chassis and drive train being way cheaper to build an maintain than a Leclerc (for a very good reason… the Leclerc insanely complicated automated drive train that mix a gas turbine APU that act as a turbo with a main diesel engine. After a very painful and expensive R&D it actually works, giving it the same instant reactivity as a M1 or a T-80, 0 to 32km/h in 5s it's about what a good commercial sports car give you, but the fuel consumption of a normal tank because it switch to a regular engine once speed is constant. That's the main reason why they're so expensive).

It's not a mix of both technology to make a better future tank, however that's something that could easily take the place of the T-90S as high tech export tank, while making it a much nicer upgrade for Leo fleets than 2a6 2a7 and cie as it keeps the weight down.

It's a good compromise "on shelf" upgrade. However neither Germany nor France will buy it as their future tank.

Doubly so if you have a shitty economy like we do.

Right now Russians and French are leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to Future Soldier programs,Germans are up there somewhere and I have no idea where Burgers are with that.Probably busy dicking around with third arm and the like.

True engineering everyone, we sure as pushing military technology forwards the future right here.
A german tank with a french turret. Something that only a child would think of.

The Russians already have their Ratnik gear in service with selected units, and are rolling it out pretty heavily across the rest of their forces. The only part that won't get issued immediately is swapping out the AK74 for the AK12, they'll have to wait for 2020 to get those out in sufficient numbers.
I think they're still using it as a way to channel taxpayers cash to defence contractors. Mind you, I shouldn't point too many fingers there. Ours was all but cancelled in the last Defence Spending Review.

A 100,000 pieces of Ratnik kits are being made and supplemented by AK-12,Can't wait to see leaked videos of those fuckers removing kebab in Syria

Also,that new Russian assault engineer armor looks sexy af

Well a large problem with the Leo is that most of it's internal electronics are rather old. Some of the radios in the turret are so old that they won't function properly with newer NATO radios.
I imagine that this problem is only worse for all the nations that use export version of the Leo, since they have even less access to modernized versions of anything.
Replacing the turret is a very smart move of KANT.
I am kinda looking forward to see what the EMBT is going to be like. We will see if they manage to come up with something new, or if they will follow the trend that has been set with the T55 of western tanks playing catchup with the Russians.

God bless those crazy Russian bastards. Then again if they're working properly you probably wouldn't see anything other than muzzleflash.

How long before Russia just starts issuing these guys powered exosuits?

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I am starting to believe that Russia's new idealogical goal in the face of communism's fall is making stalker real

Boy I hope so, really digging the aesthetics.

Well,their CE are already interlinked with combat and demolition bots such as Platform-M and Uran-6.
Exosuits as of right now are just too expensive and unreliable,not to mention power supply problems.Give em' some time to mature and you'll be seeing soldiers larping as streloks in 20 years top.

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Russian procurement works largely in mysterious ways. So far the only thing they seem to be procuring a lot are AK-74MR kits and GP-34 GL. Probably they will get some RPK-16 and possibly SVCh.
The only "balanced action" guns really in service are not AKs, they're A-545/A-762 that you do see from time to time in special forces units (along with older AEK).

Problem is that Russia as enough 74s to wage WW III and the opening year of WW IV.
Officially they're buying EVERYTHING (AK-12/AK-15, A-545, A-762, RPK-16) but the number they buy are probably just low enough to keep one assembly chain running while they really decide.

The russians have split in two their exosuit program (legs/torso), they have deployed some sample of passive legs exoskeletons for sappers in Syria to test them in theater, rumor is the evaluation was very positive.

The idea being the passive leg exoskeleton helps you carry the gear and is roughly for everyone with a heavy equipment load (transmission gear, probably RPG/MG gunners, etc…), including those with active upper torso if someone ever solve the autonomy issue (which is a worldwide R&D issue, today battery technology is simply lagging completely far behind what is possible in miniature tech, and nearly everyone is working on it from the US DARPA to Google, Mitsubishi, Siemens, every university worth it's salt, etc… First guy that solves it gets very, very rich).
As such it might not too long until they issue a lot of passive ones.

But have they made sure that the leg section still functions when the user is sporting a massive combat boner?

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Makes more sense than the whole LS3 mule program.First you teach your kid to walk,then you teach it to build autonomus cargo hauling bot.

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If this were a just world, there wouldn't be any sanctions, there wouldn't be any full-auto ban, and those would be going on the market for practically nothing right about now.

Was the same with 7n6 until the BATFE started claiming they were AP, since it wasnt M855 most gun owners didn't even try to stop it.

Don't fucking remind me.

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First they would have to issue them to sappers.
Russia is rebuilding it's "assault sappers units", looks like after Grozny 2 someone finally opened the red army archives on urban warfare.
It's heavily armored (those heavy blast proof suits), heavily armed (RPO for everyone… with extra ammo), explosive specialists riding in heavily armored vehicles (The elusive BMO-T, probably T-15 in the future)

So that's Russia winning basically every city fight until someone actually drops a nuke (or equivalent weight of conventional explosives) on their assault engineers then.

or you could just take out the tracks and make it worthless

Or you could just shoot the troopers before they become troopers and end up winning the war before a war is declared.

No, that taking out tracks stuff generally doesn't work unless you have anti-tank mines. Or atleast I haven't seen it work once in Syria.

tbh not a bad idea, do 300 beslans on a country and their capability will be weakened both militarily and economically in the long run

Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language all with heritage south of hadrians wall, claiming to be german.

Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language claiming that, ginger and blonde haired people with blue and green eyes and a germanic based languages, aren't germanic.

This is why I can't respect the English, despite all they've done. They simply can't tell the truth, even to themselves.

BTR is also amphibious. If you had enough BTRs and guts you could invade New Zealand and finally make it an Australian territory.

Does anyone remember that retarded Israeli invention of a gun that breaks in half, then you point the broken half around a corner and use a giant screen camera to see what its pointing at?

I think this is a much better solution.

yugoimport.com/en/proizvodi/vb-10-soldier-future

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If it wasn't for jason statham, post-1990 england wouldn't have to exist. No one would notice it was gone, except in a positive sense.

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OH MY GOD IT'S YOU

WHAT A FUCKING TWIST HOLY SHIT

The Corner Shot itself wasn't a gun, it was a holder for a gun. The front part held a pistol and camera, the back part held a remote trigger, screen, and stock. When the pistol is inserted the whole thing becomes what amounts to a short barreled pistol caliber rifle that folds.

Holy shit, it's just too good.

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Well, this is certainly something. I don't know what exactly it is, but it certainly is something.

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have you seen Transporter 2 lad?

You know that a fucking DPV dune buggy has a more powerful engine than a saxon right? Anyone have that vid of one failing to drive over the smallest incline at what looked to be a test track while a BDRM2 ran circles around it to the benny hill theme?

Fucking Christ I didn't even know you still sailed those overstuffed barges

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At least English is sort of influenced by Latin.
You both missed the part where he described Gaelic as Germanic.

Unironically still not a Romance language though.

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The Saxons job was very simple. Drive British squaddies from the barracks to the front in West Germany once news came in that the Russians were on the move. They'd be in a Warrior or Spartan for anything more serious than that. As for the type 21 I wasn't praising or defending it. Redo basic English comprehension. While you're doing that realise that you missed the point at the end of the section on the Blowpipe. In short, sir, get fucked.

Strelok, why would the UK need small recon vehicles when all they do is helping the USA to fight Sandniggers for the (((chosen people)))?
What they need is a "big safety box" to house in their new colored and diverse soldiers, so they don't get hurt by the occasional lucky shot when deployed.
Also when they send a small tank to a conflict zone and label it as a "recon vehicle", they don't need to send actual MBTs and can claim that it is a low level conflict.
The Normie Brits will be too stupid to notice the difference from the pictures and footage of the war zone.

Germany has "finished" its future soldier program Gladius since 2013 and with a snails pace its getting delivered to the Panzergrenadiers that will be riding on the Puma.

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la creatura…

the future was a mistake