Prepping thread cuz prep boards are dead

Rice and beans are 75% of what you need. Go with dry beans rather than canned to save space (and money). Make sure you get a variety of different types of rice/grains (white, brown, jasmine, you can even fuck with quinoa if you want idc) and various types of beans (black, kidney, great northern, plus chickpeas and shit) so you can ensure you're getting a complete protein with every combination without getting sick of one style. The remaining 25% are seasonings, oil, sauces, oats, fucking peanut butter, dried/canned meats, dried/canned fruits and veggies, vitamins/supplements (I stock up on vitamin B12, C, D, and K3, plus calcium, melatonin, creatine, caffeine, and a few good multivitamins) drink mixes (caffeinated, electrolytes, low-sugar, etc.) and probably a few pre-packaged entrees and energy/protein bars for when you don't feel like cooking.

Personally, I've been maintaining a substantial vegetable garden for the last few years. We grow tons of potatoes, plus carrots, various squashes, cucumbers, tomatoes, peas, sometimes corn, etc. I also stock up on in-season fruits at a bargain and can/dehydrate it myself, so I have a pretty good stock of fruit at home.

I have various cooking and heating appliances that don't require electricity or natural gas:
Propane: outdoor grill, indoor flat top griddle, 2 cheap propane patio-style heaters
Kerosene: kerosene stove, a big heater, and a small heater

Granted, I need to keep propane and kerosene stocked, but I also have an old coal/wood stove in the basement that can keep my home bearable in the winter and can be used for cooking in a pinch. Warmth is a necessity. I've also got a big stash of thermal underwear and a closet full of sweaters, winter coats, hats, gloves, boots, etc. bought on the cheap from a thrift store.

I'm also pretty well-stocked on items that are only semi-useful now, but will be sought-after if SHTF… stupid shit like lighters, batteries, cigarettes (keep a few cartons in the fridge), and booze (I buy a couple of the tiny little 50ml bottles or the flask-sized 375 ml bottles of various liquors whenever I go to the store… they can be used for barter, plus I like to tuck the tiny bottles of vodka into medical kits or whatever.)

As far as guns and ammo go… I have an ample stash of reloading supplies. I do not know how to reload, but I am a 1/3 owner of one of those fancy reloading presses, which my friends and I have hidden out in our hunting cabin. I do have a pretty good stash of factory ammo too… I'm nearing my goal of 3k rounds each of .380 auto, 9mm, .357 mag, and .45 auto, plus 10k rounds of .22lr. I own 4 Glock 19s, 4 Glock 43s, 2 Ruger LCP IIs, 2 Ruger GP100s (in .357 mag), and 2 Ruger LCRs (one in .357 mag, one in .22lr). I'm currently looking at buying a couple 1911s. I have 2 Ruger 77 bolt-action .357 mag rifles, a Spanish Mauser, a couple shitty Savage 64 something-or-others, and I'm about to start looking at pistol caliber carbines and start building AR-15s (gotta get some shotguns too… I'm a little behind the curve rifle-wise since I firmly believe that a handgun will be the gun that saves my life.)

I have so much more to blather on about, but I don't want to type any more.

Some containers can decay.
For example plastic water bottles will start seeping plastic on their own after a year or so, even faster of in direct sunlight.
Glass is the safest

Hoard coffee alcohol cigarette and medicines. With these things you can buy people when shit hits the fan.

Food is a nonissue unless the entire planet simultaneously collapses, in which case the major threat will be 100,000 strong roving armies of cannibals…. Once the twinkies run out.

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The problem is that no one cans properly anymore, you cannot trust factory canned goods to be done properly. They cut corners as long as its within law, that is the real reason to watch expiration dates. Its not hard to can yourself though, you just need wax, twine, and glass jar with a monoform steel cap. My grandfather has plum jam that was canned in the 90s and tastes better than shit you buy in the stores tomorrow.
Water starts boiling at 92 and DNA breaks up at 98, so boil your jars and tops for several hours. Same for fruit/veg. Add a standard preservative like sugar for sweet canned goods, or salt for savory canned goods. While everything is still burning hot, pour the preserved mass into the jar and screw on the top. Seal it with wax and twine to make it even more airtight. When the air inside cools it will create a vacuum because hot things are larger than cold things.
Stored in a cool dry place this will last forever.

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How exactly do you seal it with wax and twine?

Two things to not skimp money on:
1) boots (should be a "well duh")
2) your main pack
Any major brand is good. You're better looking for a sale rather than one with a low price to start with. Ask for an end-of season discount or look for a clearance sale of previous season's stock.

It's too hard to explain over text. There's a lot of tutorials on wax sealing on the internet though, videos too.

user, brown rice does spoil. I hate white rice, but this is one of those situations were you should get white rice because it doesn't spoil and then just keep a bottle of multivitamins (the only things I think that go bad in expired multivitamins are vitamin D, vitamin B, and Potassium for obvious reasons).

Shit, even eggs will stay good for like a month after they expire (just shake it near your ear like a lightbulb- if you hear sloshing, don't eat it). There's a few general rules with preserved foods lasting longer than intended.
Canned goods can be safely trusted for up to about five years if they require a can opener to open. If they have finger-opening lids and such, use them within two years after expiring.
If left unopened, oil and things like ranch can stay good for about 6 months to a year after it expires. Certain oils if left unopened and out of extreme heat will last like 2 years (most go rancid within a year if they're opened). I know olive oil, coconut oil, peanut oil, and crisco are all good for about 2 years, but coconut and crisco will both stay good for about five years if kept in a dark, cool area (and they're both cheap enough that you could replace them once a year), but then most oils will last about two years if kept refrigerated. Basically it would be worth investing in a steel water bottle that's filled with oil for meals and such.
This is a mixed basket. If you keep it in a cool, dry area, and it's something naturally acidic like tomatoes, it will basically last indefinitely.
Jerky itself will last a very long while, but if you submerge it in honey, it will last basically forever. Likewise honey by itself has no expiration date- as long as you keep it out of direct sunlight and don't get it wet for the enzymes to activate, honey will effectively last forever (so this is a good way to get your proteins and to prevent ketosis).
I know this is a meme, but the only way for vacuum-sealed foods to spoil are if they spoil from within or they aren't properly vacuum-sealed. This is worth investing in if you're looking to make about a month's worth of home made MREs.
Freeze-dried foods (which can be made by anyone with a dedicated freezer or dry ice if you're in a hurry) are able to stay good for pretty much as long as they don't contain moisture. If you use shitty methods like dry ice, expect about two years, and if you get a fancy vacuum chamber, expect certain types of freeze-dried foods to last for up to a decade or two out of direct moisture.

The main thing you're worried about with ANYTHING preserved are the really fucking nasty bacteria that will kill you in very small amounts like botulism. If we're talking about a SHTF scenario where you'll be able to find food but it will be scarce, then don't trust preserved food that's more than a year expired. If you don't have a choice though, then obviously it's either botulism or starvation as your options.

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tl;dr- Basically you either want to create a vacuum seal (Canned/jarred/sealed goods) or you want to remove all moisture from it (baked/honeyed/freeze-dried/regular dried foods).