ATF thread

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

AR-15 uppers are now firearms? Possible.

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Jacob Hill
Jacob Hill

As much of a "firearm" as banging a bullet on a rock, which they probably started believing after they banged their own heads on it.

Jason Barnes
Jason Barnes

Buy a ton of uppers now.
Buy a ton of lowers later.
Unregistered firearms for days.
Dont even require an 80% and tools.

Thanks for the info!

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

he thinks lowers would stop been firearms

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

No.

Colton Richardson
Colton Richardson

Isn't the ATF the office that declared that a shoelace would be a machine gun if you tied it onto a semi-auto rifle in the correct way?

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Both cant be a firearm can they? I mean come on, that's like saying you can put two firearms together to make one firearm.

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

How do ATF definitions of various types of firearms even work?

Aaron Martin
Aaron Martin

I'm guessing one part understanding two parts arbitrary.

Carter Price
Carter Price

Kirk Johnson puts on his suit and tie, grabs his breifcase, goes to the airport
goes through security with the TSA agents who instantly know his security credentials and "threaten" him jokingly with a cavity search, all laugh and he proceeds to wait for his plane
finally lands at his destination, a limo with some familiar ATF agents and a "KIRK JOHNSON" sign greet him
at the headquarters there is the usual coffee drinking, idle friendly banter and chit chat
let's get down to business
"We need some new firearm definitions, Kirk, of course you knew that, that's why you are here"
Mr. Johnson takes of his pants and underwear, bends over, and proceeds to goatse as an experienced agent puts on a massive latex arm length glove on with lots of lube
the agent maneauvers his arm all the way up to his shoulder and grabs something

And this is how ATF definitions are made

Michael Allen
Michael Allen

They're talking about the bolt-action .50 BMG uppers people are trying to import, mainly because 1.) a bolt-action receiver counts as the part the barrel's screwed into and 2.) the standard AR-15 setup requires the upper being connected to the lower to fire without violently disassembling itself into the face of the shooter.
Blame this on bumpstock-tier dumbassery, not the ATF.

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

ATF reclassifies it so an upper that cant fire safely unmounted AND the multi-cal lower both are firearms
dey gud bois, don' blame agent deshawn and SAC shekelberg
Fuck off cuck.

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Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

Both cant be a firearm can they?
It's whatever the ATF says it is.

Oliver Brown
Oliver Brown

Is this a gun?

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Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall

Not yet….

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Easton Morris
Easton Morris

Yes

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Brody Evans
Brody Evans

No one is really sure, Poland. It varies from day to day and month to month. Even the atf don't really know, sometimes these definitions just pop in and out of existence with little to no rhyme or reason.

Elijah Ross
Elijah Ross

reclassifies
nigger they made a bolt action rifle that doesn't specifically need an AR lower to function

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

And a standard upper can fire without a lower as long as you have a pin punch and a hammer, not to mention these exact goddamn uppers have been in existence for decades you stupid motherfucker. Stop kissing the ass of the enemy.

Xavier Myers
Xavier Myers

You think the agency that declared a shoestring a machine gun, putting an arm brace on your shoulder "manufacturing" an SBR, thought it would be fine if they called M855 armor piercing *after* it became one of the most popular 5.56 rounds, ignores anti-gunners making SBRs on online videos, gave guns to cartels, and considers handguns with a forward vertical (not angled, potato, bipods, etc.) grip to be AOWs, will adhere to logic?

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Blake Foster
Blake Foster

this is what happens when you suddenly let yourself be entirely governed by MUH SPIRIT OF THE LAW MUH PRECEDENT

Nathaniel Roberts
Nathaniel Roberts

This is what happen you are governed by cucks.

Cucks want to change language, it's nothing new.

James Powell
James Powell

come up with ONE time MUH SPIRIT OF THE LAW MUH PRECEDENT bullshit hasn't helped a anti-american jew?

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

That's the jew jewing language.

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

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Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson

Yeah try firing a round in a standard upper without a lower attached.
Best case scenario the bolt flies into your body, worst case the bolt flies out and you have parts breakage.

The bolt-actions system is self-contained, the FCG isn't the registered part of a bolt-action rifle.
You are a dicksucking faggot getting mad about dumb shit. Don't try to die on this hill, nobody's going to be mad about this if they aren't mad about the ATF already banning shit without laws being passed.

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

Ignoring any relevant point
projecting this hard
Goddamn the aids has rotted your brain.

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Nicholas Brooks
Nicholas Brooks

Ignoring any relevant point
That's what you've been doing the entire time, faggot.
projecting
There's nothing to project, now you're just dragging it on for the sake of being a bitch.

Sebastian Brown
Sebastian Brown

a standard upper without a lower attached.
You didn't limit the bolt carrier options.
Just take off the gas key.
You could actually make it a slam fire.

Hudson Thompson
Hudson Thompson

What is *tenitivly* the second amendment?

Camden Rodriguez
Camden Rodriguez

It's simpler than that bro. They're just cunts.

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Jaxon Price
Jaxon Price

user, I know you're trying to make a point, but the thing is that the AR is a two-piece operation. Some retard hick trying to get it to work without a lower doesn't concern them.
People buying a self-contained system without paperwork that only requires an FCG makes them think there's a possible loophole that needs closing.
Keep in mind these are the same people who have a serialized shoestring locked up alongside LMGs and STEN guns.

well-regulated militia
has been willfully misinterpreted for decades.

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