Do Baptists do Lent?

I fast, I just don't make a big public show of it.

Do you do Christmas?

when's the last time you fasted baptistbro?

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1. No
2. LENT is not in the Bible.

Oh, so you mean do we FAST? Oh, well, of course, there are times this is appropriate. But, OP is asking whether it happens at the exact same time each year that we wimpily give up chocolate or some other lame version of fasting.

Lent is a regularised, annualised version of fasting that has been watered down to a "give up chocolate for a month"

This whole thread is ghey and really should just be locked. You think that by doing your fasting at a specific time of year that makes you superior to people who choose to do it as needed throughout the whole year?! Or, more likely, you think you can bait baptists into another cath-prot shitfight over some innocuous and pointless argument?!

It's almost like none of you have read your Bibles, much less Second Timothy:
>Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.

Time to grow up, Zig Forums

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what's your point?

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Why are you trying to stop foolish and stupids arguments while simultaneously using a "most people in your denomination are moderates so what you say doesn't matter lol" argument?

That is lame, you're right. God bless those who fast more dutifully and complete it with prayer and almsgiving. Lord knows I need work.

We feast in celebration of things such as Christ's resurrection. In preparation for major feasts, we fast. This is an icon of Christ's 40 days in the wilderness, and it magnifies the joy of the celebration and the honor and glory of God. This is why we should fast at the same times every year. But it absolutely should not be reduced to only fasting during lent. Pascha is not the only thing we celebrate, and it's not the only time we should fast.

Yeah that's shit, I agree. Does not accomplish the mission fasting is meant to accomplish. I hope the Lord uses it for His purposes despite that.

No, I'm mocking how poorly the regular annual fast is treated not because it invalidates the tradition, but because it emphasises that regular and annualised doesn't make it "better" or make for better fasts. The tone of this thread is that Lent is superior to irregular fasting. I'm asserting that is not true, and giving examples, but I'm not saying Lent is a bad idea in and of itself.

So you follow? I am refuting your claim and then lambasting your (collective) intent of starting a "foolish" argument.

But, nice try. Have another go.

Sorry, esp. given you've just joined the thread, that should probably be "the" or "your (collective)" rather than making it sound like you personally were the one responsible for the whole thread.

Great Lent can only be fully understood in the context of the full church year – otherwise, you're right, creating a specific time each year might be considered arbitrary. Baptists don't really have this context, nor do they share much in the way of tradition besides some foundational Scripture interpretations.
I would, however, argue that there is some mutual encouragement to be found in embracing the idea of a regular, annualized fast. I've found that an individualistic sentiment is often coupled with the condemnation of tradition in my interaction with some Baptists, but that doesn't mean they represent Baptists as a whole. Fasting together and walking through the whole church year together isn't a bad thing.

Only Latin's do that, the Orthodox actually fast.

not eating food is pagan

You guys don't for 40 days?

Don't eat.*

We eat very little, and abstain from meat (including fish), dairy, eggs, oil, and alcohol for the entirety of Great Lent

And we are not supposed to eat at all from Good Friday to Pascha liturgy

whats a lent?

19 And she put ashes on her head, and rent her long robe and laid her hands upon her head, and went on crying.

Don't speak for all of the Orthodox there, brother. The Western Rite Orthodox have different fasting rules with respect avoidance of dairy and eggs. Also the Russians don't consider beer or kvass or other "low"-alcohol drinks to be breaking the fast, in moderation.

The mainline Latins changed many of the fasting rules only recently, during the Vatican II reforms or around that time. There are a LOT of tradcaths who still follow the older rules, however, which are essentially the same as those used by the Western Rite Orthodox today.

Smearing ash is Biblical. However, we're also directed that when we fast, we shouldn't make a show of it, and to my mind, wearing the ash all day on Wednesday is kind of showy. I'm glad that the Orthodox don't do that.

We're ordered to fast, by Christ Himself. The Church initiated a 40-day fast prior to Pascha as a time of preparation for catechumens who would traditionally be baptised on Pascha. Hm, 40 days of fasting, I wonder where that idea came from …

The Baptists only THOUGHT they were eliminated "traditions of men." Instead, what they did was eliminate the traditions of the Church and then substituted their OWN, NEW, INNOVATIVE traditions, which were indeed traditions of men, as they were not handed down from Apostles or those who knew them, but were created out of whole cloth by men who knew not the Apostles. Stuff like the Bible being the be-all and end-all resource for everything etc.

Friendly reminder, my protestant half-brothers: that Bible which you use as an icon was written by OUR CHURCH. The Church existed before the Bible and the Church gave you the Bible.

You're welcome.

really makes you think

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based

First of all, it's completlly voluntary.
Second of all, it's not private but from someone else.
Third of all, it's catholic in proper term - it's universal. When all do that, it's not a show.
And finally the rule is that if keeping ash would make you feel uneasy and embarrassed then keep it. But if it's real probality to boast then it's completlly missing the point and you ought to wash it asap.
Also, it's parish depndednt, but as valid form of use of ash is just puting it upon top of head.

I trust Church fathers over random historian.

I'll keep that to myself as I think that's something to be kept for the most part between God and I. I'd rather not boast in how often or not I fast. Jesus said not to draw too much attention to it. Even fasting can become prideful according to Isaiah. I think the best I can say is not enough. Even the disciples slept when they should have prayed. But he supplies grace where we lack. I hope to do it again soon, and encourage others to do it, as I feel it brings one intimately closer to God, especially when your only food for a time is the bread from heaven.

Just remember that yer dealing with a Baptist. Any church practice that isn’t explicitly mentioned in the Bible is considered wicked and pagan to them.

Okay.

Is this true?!

Makes me think about how Baptists will cite Catholic writings anytime they try to make a point.

what's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with it. Quite the contrary. You should always cite works of The One True Chruch of Jesus Christ Our Lord.

"universal" is not what katholikos properly means. It's a bad translation. The true meaning of catholic is "with the fullness". Latins misunderstood the word.

Pretty much.
The early church in the apostolic days did not have any new testament scriptures because they had not been written yet. The apostles were busy preaching and founding churches, and hadn't yet settled down to write the gospels. Their old testaments were collections of separate writings, not bound into one book. Much of the new testament is comprised of epistles written /to/ already-established churches. It stands to reason that the bible came from the church, not the other way around.

You mean altered by your church.

Is it OK to cite Ibn-Ishaq, the Qur'an or Sahih al-Bukhari/Muslim when disproving Islam?

If so, why?

Cites a Catholic Archbishop as the final authority on an issue. This somehow disproves Catholicism.

"Altered" "Compiled" Those words mean the same thing right?

no archbishop was cited,
the arrow is pointing to the NIHIL OBSTAT and IMPRIMATUR, showing that the material in the other image (taken from the same encyclopedia) is considered sahih by the roman catholic church.

heh

You guys are so funny, talking about things you don't have an inkling of understanding about.

I only follow the Bible and Lent is not mentioned in it.

severely underrated post

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I don't get it?

You and OP have a very immature logical process friend; do you think somehow that Christmas is more important than Easter?

And?

What are you trying to prove?

It's a sin to observe Christmas because Christmas isn't in the bible

I fast. The Bible doesn't give us a schedule or calendar for that sort of thing. Celebrating Christ's birth, death and resurrection and giving gifts are always nice things to do, but I don't think anyone should feel obligated to focus these acts specifically on Christmas or Easter. Personally I celebrate those holidays mainly because it's socially expected of me. I am not comfortable with these holidays' commercialism and association with lies about magical characters though. If it was not socially expected of me I would be just as happy not celebrating these days.

trinity isn't in the bible either but…

try following the god jesus instead, it'll work better

Not directly, but if you combine what it says about the Father, Son and Holy Spirit being God, treating them as separate persons, and then what it says about there being only one God, you can infer it from scripture.

with that logic lent is also inferred from scripture

How so? The scripture about the nature of the godhead, if you add it all up says 'God exists and is one but is three persons who are all God'. Every part of that is in scripture somewhere. There is no scripture you can add up to arrive at the specifics of Lent as a necessity for believers. Verses about fasting, sure; Lent, no.

Friend, you’re on an anonymous imageboard. What bragging rights could you possibly gain here? Sounds like you’re avoiding the question, tbh.

This again. Oil and wine are perfectly accepted here at least. stop speaking on behalf of everyone. Only things that are universally abstained are animal products.

This user has the right motivation in that we aren't to show-off especially when we are fasting. Jesus says it very clearly and explicitly in the Bible. That said, I wouldn't mind observing Lent with my fellow Roman Catholic brothers and sisters. I think rather than a physical mark on your forehead, it is more important to ensure you have the Mark of God on your forehead.
And the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan for all the abominations that are done in its midst.” (Ezekiel 9:4)

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