S-500 enters production

yahoo.com/news/russia-apos-500-putin-could-130200803.html

Features of system:
- Ground radar 3000km search radius, 1000km targeting radius against low RCS targets the range is still in hundreds of miles…
- Rocket range 600km radius 40km altitude vs fighter aircraft, or 200km altitude vs ballistic missiles and satellites
- Integration of airborne radars for beyond horizon capability
- Short range defense component has 4 second response time

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I will never not be assmad that everyone but us gets to make their own weapons and systems. This country has gone to absolute shit. Even the fucking street shitters make missiles and tanks by themselves while all we make are bullets and half a century old licensed G3 rifles

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It could be worse.

I think the Russian have defeated modern stealth given they have cancelled production of their own stealth aircraft.
The way to tell if the US believes they have is simple, when the US military says they need more funding it means they are fine, when they say they can meet all threats in means they are bluffing.

Does it grant wishes too?

Welcome to the future Strelok
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Here is a better link
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You could be albania.


Yeah I think they're done with that. They have tech in service that makes their own stealth obsolete, plus tech in the R&D pipeline that makes every other geometry based stealth obsolete as well. And RAM only makes signature quieter by ~10% which just means the enemy has to use a dish 10% more powerful - it's a non-issue.

Only threat in the future will be jamming.


It's got a selection of rockets, the exoatmospheric interceptor is mounted on an airbreathing rocket. Its advantage is that part of the oxygen or oxidizer that most rockets carry from the start, is harvested from the atmosphere. It's not quite a ramjet, since it can operate from a standstill, the vacuum of the exhaust draws air in even when its not moving. Another tech soviets pioneered and the West ignored due to antiwhite racism.
If NASA got off its ass and implemented this tech, it could reduce the size of orbital rockets by 1/2, Russia has no fucking money to put all their wunderwaffe projects into service. We could be a space faring civilization tomorrow if we threw 1/10th of the money at cribbing their tech that we threw at Raytheon for "shooting down" a satellite that was already deorbiting itself.

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To be fair it's all been downhill for Greece since the Macedonian Wars.

Maybe you should pay your fucking bills first before thinking about making some OC wehpunz. If all else fails, just make a licensed copy of an existing shit. Then again, fucking Rhodesia managed to design and produce a pretty good MRAP Vehicle with all the embargoes shoved upon their throat, but that's more of an exception than the rule.
-t. Country that used to be as poor as yours

He could be Macedonia

Stealth has been defeated because the US military refused to put stealth bombers directly over Syria the way they did with Libya.

Yeah but it's full third world after that point.

Preferably by removing kebabs for money.

All CRYSTAL sats should be fine then (unless they don't boost their orbit that often).

But who would pay for that?

Who does always pay for our shenanigans, greatest ally?

No one is going to give a shit about hitting recon satellites, the priority targets will be GPS and comms which are both much higher.
The current gen of anti-sat missiles are just chest beating with the next couple of generations getting to useful altitudes.

Name one example. Even a proposal.

The british HOTOL program(now skylon) has been funded on the backburner since 1982. Recently, now that there is a market for space launches, the british government has given them much more money, so they can prove their engine design works. They've already proven the only truly new component in the engine.

And yeah, nasa is giving them as much money as they are allowed to. But congress tells nasa what they do next, including what rocket to design. You can thank obama for SLS, we could have dumped that 20b into buying reaction engines and skylon and be flying to the ISS by now.

Even once it's operational Skylon's still a SSTO. A conventional rocket is going to be more easily scalable for more distant missions than LEO.
The problem wasn't Obama funding a conventional system, but that he cancelled the existing program and started a new one because he couldn't accept it not being his.

Gnom was rumored to be the original test vehicle but Soviet records are pretty fucking secret. RVV-AE-PD uses exactly this technology, it's not in service yet but I think tests have been carried out.
I am unsure if Izdeliye 172 was featured with this technology, I once saw a plastic mockup that was, but current variants of the missile look different. Of course they're pajeet contracted, so its half the range of what it used to be due to international treaties.

Over in America, FVRAAM (pictured) had something it called a "hybrid ramjet" motor. Since airbreathing rockets are basically a ramjet engine that gets pressurized by rocket exhaust…. "hybrid" is a good descriptor.
I'm unsure of the design so I can't comment, but I still believe it was an attempt to get at this tech. Meteor might also have it.

Is not an airbreathing rocket, it's a precooled jet engine.
At high altitude air loses density, which makes using jet engine impossible. However Skylon uses an amazing precooler to concentrate high altitude rarified air coming into the intake, into something a jet engine can use to combust fuel for thrust.
Once hit hits a certain altitude I think it still has to convert to regular rocket, because it carries a small O2 tank as well.

Airbreathing rockets can't travel as high as skylon, it's just a way to reduce the oxygen (or oxidizer) needed at lower altitudes.

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It's more of a safety net against FOBS and FOBS like systems.
Recon sats are useless anyway since a fucking laser can fry their charge coupled sensors, or a jammer can make their radar tell the sat owner whatever the jammer operator wants him to see.
Same for coms and GPS.

Way cheaper pound for pound to stick a diesel generator an an antenna on a truck than it is to launch a hitech missile beyond LEO.

Are the Russians going to make a handful of them in such numbers that they don't pose a strategic threat? Mass production doesn't seem in line with the military budget cuts and the decreased Armata production.

More like order

Does Assad's men have more experience than most US troops now?

Absolutely. How many Fallujah vets do you still have in the forces for example?

Meh, F-15's have had antisat capability since the 1980's. Almost 40 years ago. An antisat platform that is mounted on a truck is as useless as tits on a bull unless your target flies over it.

What's it going to do against targets that have their orbit modified to fly outside its' range? Honk its' horn angrily?

Maybe you should pay your debts and improve your economy instead of buying war weapons?

The debt is illegal. When the money taken aren't returned to the citizens or used in favor of the citizens but rather exclusively used by the politicians then the debt is not owned by the country, but by the specific individuals who crated it. Greece has every right to straight-up delete the 'debt' but in return will have to put every person responsible in jail or even execute him.

Greece's debt is a private debt. What's more European troika was also responsible for many illegal loans that took place. It was a plan to turn turn the country into free resources. The commie government has sold ports to the chinks, entire mines to foreigners, given huge companies to foreign investors , etc.

Yes

Fighter jets with their rate of climb are good for anti-ballistic response but IMO strategic interceptors would be the real shit:

It's 600km kill range, 3000km detection range. They need a dozen, if that, to cover all threat areas.


You made your bed now lie in it. The fuck did you give money to communist in the first place?

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Pottery.

That's a consequence, not a cause.

Except that spaceships are like anchored vessels. The anchoring point moves across the sky at orbital velocities but that just means it will be in your sights for a minute or two every 2 hours, not 100% of the time. That's because spaceships only have RCS engines with just enough fuel to make a few minute orbit adjustments. They don't have the engines nor the fuel to, you know, actually change the orbit inclination. Doing a 90 degree orbit turn takes the same amount of fuel as going up the orbit in the first place. So taking down a satellite from a semi-stationary launch site is easy. You just figure out its orbit, move underneath it at your leisure, and wait for it to pass above you. There's nothing it could do to avoid the encounter so you're free to take as long as you need.

Or you could have decent home made weapons, and then given up on first sign of serious trouble, because your allies abandoned you and you're not Polish. Result's pretty much the same, only you don't get to brag how much ass you'd have kicked if you haven't given up.