1911 thread

specifically the King Tuk. Awesome, awesome holster, very comfortable, secure, doesn't hardly print.
you can find them like new on ebay for 40-50 bucks.

TBH I wouldn't want to carry a full sized 1911, If I had a CCW i'd carry a glock 19 with some 124 hp +p 9mm (what I have in my glock 17 ATM)

How does it feel to be such a nigger?

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Manlets, when will they ever learn?

I'm the OP

So a nigger and a faggot. Impressive.

So how's your boyfriend doing, Jamal?

Why hasn't anyone developed a "modernized" 1911 that incorporates the improvements Browning designed into later pistols like the Hi-Power? The traditional 1911 has many excellent qualities, the slim profile and unparalleled trigger design being the 2 primary features that other pistols fail to execute properly. However, it also contains many anachronisms in its design that no longer serve any purpose thanks to modern machining and manufacturing technology. Examples would be the full length rails versus partial rails, the use of a barrel link versus a cam, and the use of a barrel bushing versus a properly machined slide/barrel interface.

I'm honestly surprised no one has thought to produce a 1911 with just those minor tweaks as they would allow for a much cheaper price without compromising reliability, function, or aesthetics. I'm also amazed that it took ~80 years for someone to realize "hey, the functionality of the 1911's trigger design is unparraleled, why don't we copy it and build it into an otherwise modern polymer 9mm?". The fact that it took that long for a design like the Hudson H9 to come about is indicative of just how lazy the big manufacturers are.

the campus police at my school uses 1911s for some
reason?

They have no reason to when they are making bank.

I've asked myself the same question. The only explanation I can come up with is cultural momentum. "We've been doing it this way for a hundred and ten years, why stop now?"

While we're indulging in pipe dreams, the original .45ACP load was supposed to replicate that of .45Colt, except with smokeless powder and a case suitable for autoloaders, right?
So why hasn't anyone made a 1911 in .45 Colt? Yeah, you'd have to make the grip longer to accommodate the longer cartridge, and trying to make a rimmed cartridge work in a straight mag is bound to be wonky, but if Noonan can make it work in .357 Magnum then these problems are obviously not insurmountable.

Coonan, rather.

Well there's the STI 2011, but the improvements there are only skin-deep. My guess would be that so much of the 1911's popularity is based on stubbornly insisting that those anachronisms don't matter, or are actually features.

It's certainly doable, you just have to restrict yourself to single stack mags. The Deagle does it pretty well, as do a few .22lr autoloaders.

The problem with 45 Colt is that it's fuckhuge, hence why ot's called 45 Long Colt. It's equally as long as 50 Action Express which pushes the limit for handgun ergonomics. While that isn't enough of an issue to prevent people from demanding handguns chambered in .357 or 50AE, the only reason people are willing to make the ergonomic compromise is due to the increased performance of those cartridges versus .45 ACP.

While the 45 Long Colt case does provide additional headroom for powder, .45 ACP itself is so old that there is enough headroom to push the performance of that case to the very limits of what a typical short recoil handgun action can handle (see: 45 Super). Anything you can do with a 45 Long Colt case in a traditional design can be mstched by a modernized .45 ACP load and anything greater would require a stronger lockup like that seen with the Desert Eagle's rotating, gas operated bolt.

It does have some novelty appeal but it doesn't make much sense. 45 Long Colt itself doesn't make much sense in the modern contexf except as a way to sell Fudds on the idea of .45/.410 shotshell revolvers.

The market doesn't demand innovation.

Some do, some don't. The 1911 market specifically does not, because most of its value comes from nostalgia and cult-like appreciation for it being a JMB design. Because innovation will not modify these aspects of its value there isn't much inventive to pursue those avenues in the 1911 market.

Except that's a feature, not a bug. They lend themselves to more consistent lockup and therefore better accuracy.

This is a good question. Star and Llama did produce pseudo-1911's with a similar barrel system.

Literally every single heavy barrel 1911 does this. Kimber alone Fuck Kimber btw, does about thirty bushingless models.

You're the sort of dude that would get drug to a bar that's 99% horny coeds and end up taking home the one trap.

I get the benefits associated woth full length rails, I only suggested this becauss I've been under the impression that partial rails reduce the overall cost (due to less complicated machining as you don't have to hold a very tight tolerance over a long operation) and also reduce weight somewhat.

I'm a semi-poorfag so I haven't ever looked into Kimbers. It's neat that they do this but kind of stupid that a cost-saving feature is only found on luxury-priced 1911s.

I never said I like the H9 or that I like polymer "wonder 9's", my only point was that it's amazing how long it took someone to combine the best feature of the most popular classic handgun platform with the most popular modern handgun format.

On another note, how much slide wear should one expect to see after ~1,000 rounds? It's sort of hard to see in this picture but the slide has completely worn through the parkerized finish on my 1911 although it hasn't visibly progressed much recently. I keep the rails greased with Super Lube (food safe PTFE grease) so I think I'm fine but I'd hate to ruin my favorite handgun due to inattentiveness.

Secondly, is it worth detail cleaning the gun at this point? I've never fully stripped it and I'm more worried about introducing sources of unreliability than preventing them as this point. I've only had one FTF (shitty Monarch ammo with fuckhard primers) and one FTC on cheap Blazer ammo during my last range trip. That was caused by a hangup on the feed ramp when chambering the first round by hand so it might just be human error. That's pretty solid reliability IMO so I think I've done a good job keeping her in tip top shape but if it's time to take the plunge, I might as well.

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that's what I meant.