What's the deal with these?
I don't know anything about these. Why are they controversial?
Dead Sea Scrolls
Isaac Cruz
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David Nguyen
Worthless. We already had the Masoretic texts.
Austin Gomez
Worthless. We already had the Septuginta.
Lucas Peterson
Don't they corroborate the Septuagint, though?
Kayden Collins
Smug atheists write libraries full of books about how the Bible is full of crap because translations and age caused it to change too much for us to know what it ever actually said.
Shepherd kid finds a bunch of pots in a cave in the desert, some as old as the 3rd century B.C.
They match the Masoretic texts almost perfectly, differing only in minor points of spelling and grammar.
Atheists quietly memory hole all the crap they'd been spewing about the inaccuracy of the Bible.
Basically, the Dead Sea scrolls told everybody what Christians already knew.
Dominic Robinson
The thing I found out about them was that the modern Bible we have was manipulated by Pharisees, they removed a certain name from the genealogy which had a relation with sorcery; e.g. Kabbalah I presume, so they removed it. The older (Greek?) Version found in the Dead Sea cave contained the missing name of that guy.
Aiden Long
The Masoretic book of Isaiah also removed several references to the "Son of Man".
Justin Cook
Damn. Interesting, I will look further into it.
Andrew Fisher
Like what? The KJV Isaiah has it twice
Isaiah 51:12 I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the son of man which shall be made as grass;
Isaiah 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Landon Adams
Septugint says Methuselah survived the flood by 14 years
LXX: Methuselah lived to be 969 years old (Genesis 5:27)
MAS: Methuselah lived to be 969 years old (Genesis 5:27
LXX: Meth. 167 years old when Lamech born (Gen 5:25)
MAS: Meth. 187 years old when Lamech born (Gen 5:25)
LXX: Lamech 188 years old when Noah born (Gen 5:28)
MAS: Lamech 182 years old when Noah born (Gen 5:28)
LXX: Noah 600 years old when flood began (Gen 7:6)
MAS: Noah 600 years old when flood began (Gen 7:6)
LXX: 167+188+600=955 years old when flood began
MAS: 187+182+600=969 years old when flood began
Logan Adams
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Logan Moore
Pretty impressive
Jace Thomas
How does it trigger the Muslim?
Nicholas Jenkins
Not that guy but I think its because Muslims say that the Christian bible has been corrupted from its original form and that the true bible would support their view. The dead sea scrolls show that the bible hasn't changed that much.
Ryder Gutierrez
It was an incoherent argument from the beginning
Anthony Peterson
There was an user in another thread that said that that webm didn't tackle the Muslim argument correctly, because they believed that the bible was heard but never written down. I wish i could link the post.
Kevin Fisher
That was just a triggered mudslime
Sebastian Robinson
They're an interesting look into what some jew believed during the second temple period
They aren't except among people keeping the septuagint/masoretic fight alive and brainlets who think that Dan Brown's novels are non-fiction.
Angel Cruz
Seriously?
Nathaniel Sanchez
They have been a compelling source of information for the study of historical Jewish thought and biblical texts.
Josiah Miller
Nother scrooge cleric like the ones they claim to despise except when it comes to analyzing information beyond the translated Bible.
Jaxon Peterson
What were the beliefs of this jew?
Adam Wood
Iirc here are gnostic texts in it that the Quran copied from heavily, dispelling the idea that the Quran is a revalation at the time of Mohammed
Charles Fisher
Again people with no idea of what they're talking about. While some of the findings in the Dead Seas scrolls might be challenging to certain established dogmas, it wasn't in the DSS where Gnostic texts where found but in the Nag Hammadi codices. The DSS do however contain the oldest preserved Hebrew biblical texts and being so has been instrumental in the advancement of the study of biblical texts.