I became Catholic already knowing the many flaws and misteps of the Church, its pipes and cardinals; it is indeed a harlot, but I do believe God still loves her and we, as her children, should love her whilst never denying its issues.
I came to Him through despair and I'll always have to fight this dark gloominess encircling my heart.
Any SSPX Tradcats or sedes here?
Cooper Gutierrez
Julian Taylor
what year did you become Catholic?
Brayden Gutierrez
Meant popes…thanks, autocorrect!
The Roman Catholic Plumbers…
Eli Jenkins
During the early 2010s
Easton Evans
that St. Augustine reference is fake.
t.orthodox
Daniel Jackson
I do believe that, didn't even know there was a fake quote…
Kevin Hughes
No not recently we haven't had one in a long time
Jacob Green
In that regard, they share roughly the same opinion of the chair of Peter that the Orthodox have, i.e. the authority of any Patriarch depends upon their adherence to "right practice" and their communion with the larger group of Patriarchs who adhere to it.
Once a Roman's belief in "papal supremacy" has been shaken, they are presented with a choice, whether they realize it or not.
Either they can through out the entirety of their belief in Apostolic succession and become "protestant," or …
They can recognize that the See of Rome the first Chair of Peter was ANTIOCH and it is certainly not and never has been vacant is vacant and has been out of communion for centuries, and can come home to the Orthodox belief which they held historically for more than half their existence.
Angel Gonzalez
Nolan Harris
I'm going to expand on this, and apologies for my horrific typing and typos above and probably to follow as well.
Alright, aside from various theological differences between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism, including but not limited to purgatory, the filioque, delayed Chrismation/Communion of children after Baptism, etc., one of the major differences is the role of the Patriarch of Rome aka the Pope.
In Orthodox thought, each and every Patriarch is equal in authority, and has such only so long as they adhere to "right practice" literally "Orthodoxy" and stay in the communion of others who do so. This requirement is in addition to having the Apostolic succession. When several Orthodox bishops assented to the filioque in order to get military assistance against the Saracens, when they returned to Byzantium they were dragged through the streets behind horses for their heresy.
In Roman Catholic thought, the Pope has the only authority and has the ability to retroactively change doctrine and practice whenever he wishes, and such are not viewed as "changes" but as "new revelations." On paper, according to the RCC, the Pope could speak ex cathedra and pronounce significant heresies to now be "true" and then then they would be "true" by virtue of the Pope's ex cathedra announcement.
When the Sedevacantist takes the opinion that the Pope's validity depends upon the Pope's adherence to "right practice," they break with the accepted RCC dogma. They are no longer Roman Catholic, by virtue of their belief that the Pope's authority has any reliance on the Pope's fidelity to accepted historical dogma.
In other words, they take an essential ORTHODOX view of what defines an authoritative Patriarchate; not only Apostolic succession, but also "right practice." Come home to Orthodoxy.
Not only not an argument, not even a good meme. Try harder next time, Schlomo.