Illicit alcohol production by military units

This subject fascinates me. Anyone have interesting stories, personal or published, about it?

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Here is an article in Hungarian about the Hungarian forces fighting by the Don river. Here is the gist of it:

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Not about Alcohol but a whole company was cooking meth at the barracks i was stationed at. Don't now the whole story, just heard about it after i got there.

Hungaryans stronk!

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That was really interesting, thanks.

That's funny as shit.

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Illicit alcohol? Before we got Zogg'd in '45 the Navy sold alcohol to their sailors eery week. Now since we don't share the same, healthy level of militarism that Westerners enjoy, here's some interesting quotes I got out of this blog (blogs.yahoo.co.jp/naomoe3/61026577.html) which seems well researched, at least for image board standards.
>The Navy out drank the Army; in fact Jisaburo Ozawa, one of the most capable officers of the IJA, has been documented as having shaking hands and had a fondness to the drink; others like Mitsuma Itakura, a distinguished Submariner of the IJA was a known drunkard, and was caught being drunk while on duty during his time in the Training Fleet, and had to write 8 written apologies, the record for the IJA. After receiving his commission he got in trouble for drunkenly punching his admiral after he (the admiral) did not return at the proper time for officers. He steadily made a reputation for being a skilled submariner, and served with the JMSDF and developed the first domestic Japanese submarines built after the war. (sabage-archive.com/blog/archives/12848)

Some fuckwit I used to be friends with got caught brewing moonshine and meth apparently in his home on base. His wife squealed on him and didn't get charged with anything.
Deserved it though, he knew full well they inspect on base housing.

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Killing with Zig Forumsindness

that's actually pretty cool.
I don't know all that much about them but I tend to hear much more positive things about the inland/rural french than the coastal/urbanite french. Is that in any way based in reality?

Can you tell us about what happened with the French and their guns? I think le francais resistance always had a hard time getting guns because your government confiscated them right after WW1, what's the story? iirc the brits grabbed guns around the same time because all the vets they abandoned and generally treated like shit were killing themselves or something

Coastal dwellers in Australia tend to be much more left wing. I don't understand why.

Living the easy life tends to make them leftist. That is just a guess.

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It's the same in America.
Bill Burr has a set that made fun of the fact coastal dwellers tend to be leftists with undeserved superiority complexes.

Port Cities tend to be vectors for (((multiculturalism)))
San Francisco was one of the busiest ports on the West Coast, look at it now. I’m sure the same is most likely true for Australia.

Interesting, I think the cities need the population restrictions so they cannot take over the politics.

They confiscated them in the first weeks of WWII using emergency power to bypass french constitution.
To be fair it was to prevent a commies uprising 1917-style to help the Germans (and the commies indeed did all they could by setting up strikes, sabotaging supplies trains, etc… A lot of problems of the french army in WWII were structural but that certainly didn't help).

The things is once the government confiscates your gun rights they're never coming back.

We had a few stories like this at our technical training school. We had a 24/7 front desk in the student barracks where you would sign in and sign out every day in order to enforce curfew, and the front desk was always manned by troops that were held up in their training for one reason or another– usually issues with getting their top-secret clearance. Well, being a bored, sketchy, and centrally-located group of people it was only sensible that the night shift started selling psychedelics out of the trunk of a car as a side business. There was also the guy in the SIGINT barracks that set up a meth lab in his 2'x'6 bathroom. The rooms got inspected by student ""leaders"" every week, but somehow they never bothered opening his bathroom door. You'd imagine people would notice that he hadn't showered for months, but I'm pretty sure he ended up getting busted because he got a roommate. When the commander asked why he did it he said that it was because he got bored. In a way I wish we kept people like that just for their ingenuity.

Coastal settlements tend to be high-density urbanised communities, with urbanisation resulting in interdependence and social atomisation which tends to support a leftist worldview. Humans tend to fail at maintaining coherent social networks above 150 people, so the hypersocialised people living in high-density cities end up having to form their social connections based off of arbitrary identifiers like gender or media consumption instead of familial ties for example.

By contrast people living in lower-density rural, pastoral or even wilderness environments have to be more self-reliant, capable and protecting of their community. Being able to to go outdoors without getting enriched by urban multiculturalism also helps, as physically fit individuals tend to be more right wing, while urban sedentary lifestyles encourage dependence upon outside forces for protection and sustenance.
I have unironically had to live with leftists who believed self-reliance was a dangerous sign of nazism, and were proud of their inability to survive without societal assistance.

Why exactly would the commies help the germans? Even if at the time the Ruskies werent at war with them, Commies and NSDAP still have rather different goals.

huh? commies would've helped the germans.. but in the same post you acknowledge that they sabotaged german supply lines? in reality many members of the french and polish resistance were commies

Threadly reminder that in 1939 the commies and Nazis were allied.
Communist parties, especially french and Italian ones were NEVER independent from the USSR and directly followed orders from Moscow through the Comintern.
They sabotaged FRENCH supplies lines (well french factory lines mostly) in 1939-1940.

Communist resistance to Germany only started when Germany attacked the USSR until then the Comintern gave explicit order to, at the very least, not attack the Germans.

Of course given that the official party stance was "Germany (and the USSR) aren't doing anything bad in Poland" they got outlawed. The Comintern asked the leadership desert (they went to Belgium… where latter the Germans didn't do anything to them and let them go back to France or Moscow unhindered despite being aware they were commies AND where wanted in France) which they did while still promoting "anti-militarism" to the base AKA sabotaging military assets.
Quite a few workers cardholder were executed by military tribunals most notoriously the Daher case where workers were actively sabotaging plane engines in a way to create explosion in mid-air, that downed several planes until military maintenance found the cause and reported it was clearly intentional (cables cut, etc). A 12 men communist cell was found to be responsible and executed.

Communist have ALWAYS been 5th columnists for Moscow and have NEVER cared about national interests with the notable exception of a few leader here and there that the Comintern was tasked to kill in priority (with Tito being the only one that managed to survived).

Note that they did the same in Asia, commies almost never fought with the Japanese (despite claiming otherwise), they first and foremost attacked the government/nationalists forces.

This is true, Mao actually celebrated when the japs invade China.

The communists are always controlled by outside force.

WW2 was autistic

>French faggots were still are being as anti German as it gets

We hate you because you're a bunch of retards that have systematically ruined any attempt at European unity over petty bullshit and autistic self-interest.

Look who's talking

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Europeans have spent pretty much their entire existence beating the shit out of each other.

even in 1939 the only people who believed that were the ones who didn't get the memo. useful idiots aren't always on the same page

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I remember hearing about good ol' Appalachian boys that got in the Pacific and ended up going innawoods to gather plants, roots, ect, just so they could make batches of moonshine.

It got so bad that some MPs had to put known moonshiners on lockdown because they were afraid they'd stumble onto the Japs or whatever the hell kind of creature was in the swamps.

This is actually where the practice of using cattail to make moonshine comes from. These guys came back with a greater knowledge that literally everything could be used to make booze, and fucking hell did they abuse it.

These days all you see is niggers making lean in the barracks.

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What is "lean"? Is this some Reddit thing?

Lean is basically a nigger-drink from Houston, in which you combine Promethazene-Codiene with Sprite and Jolly Ranchers.

After WWII a lot of Russian soldiers were stationed in Germany. Besides looting, killing and raping, they were also drinking all the time.
Their government had already reduced the alcohol rations for them, because they were getting shit-faced all the time and causing problems.
What does a good Russian do when the civilians don't have any booze anylonger, and his government won't supply him?
He starts to make his own.
So the Russians made their combat engineers welder up simple distillation devices. A couple washed out fuel barrels, some pipes, some heaters, done.
With a setup such as this, there is only one problem: heat regulation. They ended up cooking their perfectly fine Ethanol, into Methanol.
Methanol has the same effects on the human body as Ethanol. Only with one difference: As Ethanol is turned into sugar using lots of water inside of your liver, Methanol is turned into neurotoxins using lots of water.
The first symptom of Methanol poisoning (besides getting terribly terribly drunk very quickly) is blindness.

So many Russian sodliers got drunk of methanol booze, that there is a saying in German about it to this day:"to get blind drunk" (lit "Sich blind trinken"). All official numbers about deaths related to methanol poisoning are memoryholed, but if you can find numbers about deaths of soviet military personnel stationed in Germany, and wonder why their numbers were still rather high, it wasn't any combat. It was methanol.
My old high-school-equivalent chemistry teacher used to tell us all the time about that one time they found an entire platoon of dead or dying Russians in a barn. They informed the nearest army units. Ruskies didn't even bat an eye and sent over an architect a couple months later to erect a monument for those who had fallen capturing this village.
Nobody had fought over the village. The German army (and population) had retreated to a system of old mine-shafts in a nearby mountain.

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