Russian gun laws

is my understanding on Russian Gun laws correct.

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Issued by your local police department

Another important detail is that you must have a registered permanent address.

Also:


sage for qtdttot.

You can bypass all that if you have money and/or know some officers.
Corruption is a plenty over there.

Absolute undeniable truth that pic related was not a "mentally ill psychopath" like the media portrays him.

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I think this deserves it's own thread.
Can any russians tell me how difficult it is to get WW2/Soviet surplus in russia? Illegally ofc.
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Storytime for this lad?

Another absolute undeniable truth is that he did nothing wrong

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A true patriot. He wanted Ukraine and Crimea to reunite with Russia, plus he had enough of the libshit EU-cocksucking teachers and his retarded classmates, and so he killed 19 of them before committing suicide. The guy even made pipe bombs that actually fucking worked, and blew up the entire school cafeteria with them, killing a dozen people.

Wow, good for him.

The smoothbore shotgun part might be the reason why .410 veprs exist.

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Anyone know if techrim (or is it tekrim?) has anything new in terms of totally not rifles? Can lancaster "rifling" be used in the franklin reformation shit thing while still being legal? Can lancaster barrels be accurate enough for 100 yards or so?
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Necropostan, but you can't get a proper handgun.
Only gas or pneumatic pistols, none of which are fun.

If you look back at the pre-(((revolution))) times, people had access to all kinds of guns. Here's an article exploring the status of gun ownership, although you'll have to translate it yourself
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That, plus army arsenals was used to perform the (((revolution))) and by the 30's most guns were seized by the commies.
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Looks like I'm not the only one here who admits that Ukraine is a non-country.

Hey polanon, what was Pilsudski's (and in extension Beck's) view on the Ukrainians?
and no this post isn't an excuse to post my oc

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Yes also trauma pistols are free for all, and cops and soldiers get "trophy weapons" which are basically machine guns.

But I don't know much about Russian laws since I'm not Russian.

What the hell is a trauma pistol? Non-lethal stuff?

Funny that you ask, its somewhat complicated and long issue
tl;dr Pilsudski wanted to establish proxy states on polish eastern border, eg. ukrainian state, belarusian state etc…
He somewhat tried to do this in 1919-1921

Other than that there was also an idea of cultivating ukrainian minority in poland to make them coexist with poles.
This guy was mostly responsible for spread of this idea and it was called after him "Giedroycizm"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Giedroyc

Iirc sanacja government even appointed a Ukrainian governor in galicia province to try to appease ukranianians.

But of course ukrainians will screech about "muh polish nobles oppressing poor ukrainian peasants, Wohlyń massacre didnt happened, and even if it did poles did much worse stuff!"

Strelok, I…

Threadly reminder northern Europeans get the oven. No offense, germananon.

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Fuck off D&C kike.

It's a gun that causes instant PTSD
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smoothbore firing slugs. slugs have an aluminum base and rest is mostly rubber, designed to break bones but not skin (they fail often). they have anything from hanguns to submachineguns using this ammo. it comes in a variety of power levels and calibers, from .20 to .70. anyone over 18 can buy it.

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But we shall wait patiently to see his actions regarding arms.

You can't. Pistols are banned for civilians. There were legal backdoor with sporting pistols. But
1. You can't carry sporting pistol in ready condition - crime, can't use for self defense - crime, can't use anywhere beside shooting ranges.
2. Sporting pistols backdoor was closed in 2016.


Also use guns for self defense is pretty much banned by legal concept of "excessive use of force in self-defense".
Another also. Strictly legally speaking shooting guns anywhere but licensed range is crime. (Hunt? Yes another use but to hunt you need game license for specific animal just mere carrying gun in rural land without hunting license is poaching crime (and shooting gun inside settlements limits is negligible discharge crime), carrying wrong type of gun or ammo during licensed hunt is poaching too BAESTED)

Video related scenario of dude blasting guns on his property is crime in Russia.

Baton rounds gun.

But it's fucking Russia, most of it is wilderness, what are the rural areas supposed to do, hope some mean words can scare off any predators?

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As i said carrying gun in wilderness is poaching from the legal POV.

Fight bears with bare hands like BAESTED Putin does.

It surely doesn't justify all the hate against poles, and seems reasonable.
I mean no offense, but given that Poles aren't looked at in a positive light (at least in a mainstream Western lens), that would mean ukranians complain about being worse than royal toilet cleaners.
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At last i truly see that whoever set this date layout is an asshole! Why would you want the month first? I legit thought this was a may thread because the 8-boards tend to be slow. Polite sage for offtopic.

Rusanons, what would legally happen to you if you shot someone in self-defense? What if you used a knife or something else?

There are terrible sefl-defence laws in place, to top it off. I think it was mentioned before, but they are defined in such a way that unless a perpetrator's knife / gun / fist / etc has already inflicted damage to you, any action against that (yes, even rubber bullets) is considered "exessive". So you could have a guy hold you up with a knife, but if you disarm him and slice his gut you go to the camps, and he's on the right side of history. You have to use shockers or mace, which are unreliable. Can't say for the wilderness, some might even have the older pre-(((revolotionary))) long guns in their homes.

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Poland was the only country which didn't laugh at the prospect of independent Polish satellite state led by Symon Petlura, similar to what Korea was to Japan in early XX century Ukraine (because it fit into Intermarium which was basically Central-European Co-Prosperity sphere led by Poland as a safeguard against Russian and German attempts at imperialism in the region), out of their gratitude Ukraine declared a war against Poland where they got BTFO while Bolsheviks stood at the border and laughed, ironically, had they not lost the war they started they'd have been in a better position to negotiate terms of an alliance with Poland.
Then we had to take loans from kikes to fund arms manufacture and send weapons to Ukraine because we needed all possible allies against (((bolsheviks))).

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Nothing if you don't get caught.
You think I'm joking? No. If you get caught, you will be carrying a burden of 20 other unsolved cases, including firearms or not. If you get caught doing something barely illegal AND dangerous, BOOM, you are an instant patsy.
So, do whatever the fuck you want, but don't get caught for the love of god and all that is holy. In fact, not getting caught is the only thing you have to worry about. If you do creamey-crimey stuff, and do not get caught, someone else who does get caught will carry the burden of your actions soon enough (and your case will be closed on him).
Russia is a fucking hell tbh. No white nation has been encouraging their citizenry to openly exhibit the lowest scum traits to succeed in life.

This, unfortunately. It's sad to say this but this is that way or worse. Cases where cops captured someone and tried to force him to accept crimes he didn't do and tortured him to the point of becoming completely(highest grade) disabled, like breaking the spine or neck or becoming a retard because they experimented with water, your head and electricity are not uncommon and noone of them faced any retribution for their action(changed workplace or retired at max, with cops, judges and officials getting huge retirement money and all else have 120$/month at best). The only thing that is worse than these are actual prisons, both because of prisoners and cops that are aforementioned ones squared, as if they hire people by these traits.

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So shoot the nigger/white nigger dead, then grab his hand, put a knife in it and start giving yourself a few tattoos and you are ok?
Not too bad szg, tbqh

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Oh yeah, add to that the very public (even on video for the world to see) prison tortures such as body insertions, male rape and all kinds of beatings by the staff, plus hard labour without compensation. If you get caught, you will either get jailtime, or will decline into poverty trying to defend yourself in "court". Your best bet to make it out of here is to keep a low profile, never interact with any gub-related staff unless it's absolutely necessary, run from any probable encounters with the bydlo.

And it keeps getting worse! Every attemt of any kind of meeting is shut down, as there's another (((regulation))) in place that forces you to disclose what kind of meeting will it be and where, thus making every anti-status quo or even vaguely political meetups (((illegal))) and is actively shut down by OMON's gorillas arresting men, women and children without any rhyme or reason. Now (((they))) 're after children too because so many of the underage population is against whatever the you know who is up to, the gub had considered taking away said children from their parents for merely attending such an event. That Kerch thing also shook up a lot of already non-existent gun laws' tightening, proposing any gun owner inform of his movements three days ahead. It's all proposals for now, but like any retartded gub, this one tends to pass these things every once in a while. After all, they do get four times the middle-class salary, and steal legally aquire even more in assets.

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Depends. Law only allows "proportional use of force". If you are assaulted with fists you can only defends with fists. If you are assaulted with deadly weapons only then you can sue deadly weapon yourself. Against women and underage use of weapons is prohibited completely.

Duty to recognize treat and duty to retreat is mandatory. Law enforcement practice is very against usage of dealy weapons. and extremely triggered by dead. If there is a body murder charge for survivors is guranated. User of weapons aslo have duty to prove that attacking side had weapons. If there are no solid clues for his side (now weapon wounds on his body, weapon with prints was not found in the area, no video etc) prosecution would gladly agree if attackers testify he had no weapons.

Also some insight about Russian """justice""" system specifics. There are no bails on murder charge. And prosecution is extremely slow. This means that murder charge alone is 2-5 years of pre-trial sentence even if final verdict was not guilty. Also Russian pre trial jails are hell on the earth (this is "legitimatized" torture to coerce defendants into confession of charges). Actual jails ( called colonies) are breeze comparing to pre-trial detention.

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Basically correct except you can never own a pistol or any sort of machinegun. Only manual action and semi-auto guns are allowed for ownership. The only handguns allowed for ownership are traumashits designed to explode in your face if you attempt firing a cartridge stronger than 100 J or get clogged if you attempt firing a solid projectile.

Minimum smoothbore ownership period is 5 years. Also smoothbore license requires having a hunter's license, without one you can only apply for traumashit license.

Crimea is 4 years since reunited with Russia, though.

They can but they usually go full retard with it. Article 37 states that actions committed in necessary defense of oneself and one's property are not crime. If the fact of such actions being necessary is established, the case is immediately dismissed. But you have people who shoot gopniks for asking for a lighter or a spare cigarette. Of course that shit would never fly as "necessary self-defense" and they go to jail for murder. And that adds one tick in the "weren't acquitted due t self-defense" rulings, nevermind that "were acquitted" cases don't even go to court so there are no acquittal rulings.

Disregard that faggot. He's regurgitating urban myths. If you look up news stories about it you will see shitload of cops losing their job over "minor" infraction and going to jail for doing something seriously wrong.

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Was he actually inspired by them at all?

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More backwards nonsense several decades past the time it ever had a use? From Russia? How shocking.

Cameras are cheap, Forensic Science and evidence gathering are things. How about try using them.

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Pretty much. Getting firearms is extremely difficult it Russia.
Futhermore, you can't use them for self-defence.

You can get some fart-guns relatively easy (i.e. OSA(wasp) and pneumatic), but it is limited to 7.5 kilo joules, and it is not much.

Are surplus Mosin-Nagants legal after getting your rife license?

*rifle, typo

Always thought it was like the wild west over there, seems like we have the better deal for now.

In Siberia nobody gives a shit.
Used to see pictures of some fucker in the middle of nowhere with a log cabin and WW2 shit like a DP-28.

Yes, if you mean rifle and not shotgun that requires 5 year wait. They also are more expensive here than they are for burgers500fucking$. Fucking shameful and for all the circlejerk around it today tenfold so.


Yeah, though it's limited to what's left after the war and decades of communist gun control so mostly some single shot smoothbore rifle in some grandpa's closet.

Here’s how gun laws works in most ex-soviet countries:


You can have whatever you like

< Are you a working class pleb

No guns for you, except farmers & criminals & your one crazy uncle

Hard part is to get ammo

Polite sage for double post

Law in general works like this in all countries.

Yes this is true to an extent, in Western Europe where I lived for a long time for example, the law there only becomes “flexible” at the $100m+ or billionaire level. At the Millionaire level you are just another tax cow! Also enforcement is a lot higher, so it is a lot more strict than the east. Where I live now many people have fully auto ex soviet AKs stashed in the back of a cupboard somewhere. You will not find this in Western Europe.

Yet another "grass is greener" tall tale from a post-soviet shithole. Heard that one before.

And even if it were true, you should be glad that you can ancap your way out of retarded application of retarded law for very little money.

It's actually a very good thing, the worst thing that we ever let happen to us was letting our government disarm us.

better hold on to your knives tightly there chap, they're gonna take those too

Maces are forbidden on the Russia btw.

Because assholes started spraying people for no reason , spraying each other as a joke, spraying it on food…

mace.
a permit is required to get this where I live in the US.
however, bear spray is the exact same thing, in a bigger can, and can be bought by anyone including minors.

Patently false. They're even sold online without permit.

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By maces I meant clubs with heavy tip.

If you're a collector you can have them, no big deal. But if you unironically want to use one in a fight, your problem is brain cells count, not legal weapon restrictions. That said, a simple workshop hammer is basically a mace. You can also fashion a flail out of a wrench and a bike lock.

*haven't you had enough fun yet?*

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Let me get this straight; If you kill a home invader in Russia, chopping his limbs, putting every limb inside a bag and then:

-Feed him to the pigs.
-Dump his remains into a frozen lake.
-Place it in a bath full of acid .

is a better idea than going to the police and report the whole break-in incident?


I always get mixed signals when it comes to dead jews and communism. It's said that Stalin hated jews (Trosky) for various reason and in the other killing a jew was "the worst thing to do" in the USSR. I know that Lenin gave them land to settle their own enclave but it was supposedly in the buttfuck east end of the USSR and you had to cross all Siberia by train to get there. It's hard to tell which one is propaganda and which not.

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Yes, it is a lot better if you know how to. It's still better idea to get the fuck out, burn the body/house just throw the body away than going to police, especially considering that you're ten times better even if you go homeless then if you go in prison.

Stalin hated competition, not jews or even Trotsky(they just didn't manage to share power between each other) and actively removed anyone remotely competent and capable like a megalomaniac scum he was.Like every leftist ever was, is and will be

Thankfully, our local left leaning dumbasses off themselves due to sheer incompetence.

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