Other than 30-06 and 8mm Mauser, what were the best rifle cartridges of WW2?
Other than 30-06 and 8mm Mauser, what were the best rifle cartridges of WW2?
Jackson Gonzalez
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Oliver Collins
6.5mm Swiss, 14.5x114mm, and .30 Carbine.
Aiden Perez
7,5x54mm MAS buries 8mm Mauser and 30-06, even .308.
Nathan Brown
7.92×33mm Kurz and 7.62x39mm
Jaxon Hall
Nearly all of them were in the 7-8mm range and delivered around 3000-4000 joules, and their ballistics weren't that different either. The only notable expections are 6,5mm Arisaka, 6,5mm Mannlicher-Carcano and 7,35×51mm Carcano. Out of that three, the only effective one was the 6,5mm Arisaka.
There is no such cartridge as "6.5mm Swiss", you are either thinking of 6,5mm Swedish or 7,5mm Swiss. Neither of them was used during ww2. And the other two are not rifle cartridges (expect if you want to include AT rifles in this category, but you shouldn't).
Those are not rifle catrtidges, and 7,62x39 was still in development during the conflict.
Chase Perez
6.5 mm Mannlicher
Colton Gonzalez
Supposedly it got field trials during the very end of the war, but it still doesn't count.
Stuff like rim/rimless and spitzer/round nose make a pretty significant difference.
Caleb Howard
The main difference is that producing rimmed up-to-standards is easier, while rimless makes the life of the weapon designer easier. But you can run an army just fine with rimmedd ammunition, as both the Brits and the Russians demonstrated it.
That much is obvious, but as far as I know 6,5mm Carcano was the only significant one that still used a round-nosed projectile.
Jack Lewis
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Brayden Wilson
Samuel Bailey
7.5×55mm Swiss was the most effective. The Swiss ended the war with nearly no casualties and none of their industry destroyed.
Cameron Watson
Leo Murphy
can't destroy a money laundering industry with bombs, friend
Benjamin Baker
20mm
Lucas Bailey
The Finns used some 6.5mm Swedish Mausers
Just because they're not typical "full power" battle-rifle style rifle cartridges, doesn't mean they're not rifle cartridges. What are they then? Pistol cartridges?
Logan Barnes
Don't.
If only there was a name for the category of weapons and cartridges that are between pistols and rifles. Like, dunno, carbine? You know, like in the name of .30 carbine. Of course that AT rifle cartridge is the odd one here, but as I've said, it's too big of a beast to casually throw it into this mix.
Brandon Ross
Except carbine is a meme non-designation that has no set meaning. It can refer to rifle-sized pistol calbier weapons as well as shortened rifles, the correct designation is assault rifle, note the "rifle" part. A gun doesn't have to be a bolt action rifle or a battle rifle to be a rifle, assault rifles are still rifles.
Parker Allen
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Ammis are too incompetent to bomb the right country.
Gavin Baker
What's up with Luftgangsters and bombing neutral or allied countries?
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Benjamin Bell
British bombing and destruction of supply lines killed more Jews than you good goys ever managed to.
Adam Howard
Incompetence, pressure to perform, "target rich environment" and an abundance of ammunition.
Same reason why so many friendly fire incidents happened in Korea and Vietnam.
Caleb Jackson
Without even trying.
Joshua Adams
"Assault rifle" is the translation of Sturmgewehr, a complete memedesignation coined by Hitler for propaganda reasons. First they called it Maschinenkarabiner, then they redesigned it as Maschinenpistole 43 to keep Hitler from stopping the project. Following the usual assault weapon logic, every rifle used in an assault should be an assault rifle. Actually, the Swiss Stgw 57 is chambered for 7,5mm Swiss, and the Austrians adopted the FN FAL under the StG 58 designation.
And? If you say "carbine cartridge" then people will think of a cartridge that is somewhere between a pistol and a rifle cartridge in power. Except if they are retarded or suffer from a very particular kind of autism.
Levi Kelly
This
Except that's not the definition, the definition of an assault rifle is:
Same as if you said "assault rifle cartridge" or "intermediate cartridge".
Kevin Martinez
Now you are just getting autistic for no good reason. So let's get back to here:
Is 5.56 NATO a rifle or an intermediate cartridge? Are rifle, pistol and intermediate cartridges three separate categories?
Josiah Anderson
Intermediate cartridges are a class of rifle cartridges. Same as "full power"/battle rifle cartridges and anti-tank rifle cartridges.
Cooper Wood
Thank you my greatest ally.
So the saying that 'everybody seeks cover when the americans fire' is true.
I probably completely botched the saying and nobody gets what I mean.
Logan Jackson
When the american's fire, everyone takes cover. Even the americans.
Because the americans have so much ammo that they don't care if they hit the enemy, miss the enemy, or miss the enemy by so much that they hit themselves. They just want to get rid of the ammo so they can buy new shit.
Gabriel Sanders
6.5x55 Swedish.
Jack Jones
7.7 Jap
Just because it was basically the original .303 British rimless design that was going to be adopted before that one officer autist fucked it all up
Jason King
Didn't meant to respond, oops.
Dylan Moore
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Nathan Perez
Story time?
I only say 6.5 swed because my AG-42 rips right through steel (something about cross sectional density being higher) and has pretty good accuracy. That being said my K98K is Russian capture and therefore not the best quality and I haven’t compared it to my m8’s Enfield yet. I won’t even bother with my Mosin, and I have no access to a Arisaka and I’ve only seen two Carcanos at gunshows. So I suppose I shouldn’t have even voiced my opinion.