What do you think is the future shape of body armor? Were armor plates a mistake and should we go back to flak jackets? Post some cool designs, hard sci-fi welcome.
Body armor thread
Tyler Parker
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Jason Harris
Rate my idea: why don't we use some large area flak vest and reinforce it with thin hard ceramic plates over vital areas? I've seen some guy make homemade body armor that had ceramic tiles that would fragment incoming bullets and then stop the remaining pieces by some sheet metal. Can this be done using ceramic layer as an outer vest/plate, and flak jacket as the inner layer?
Something like this flak jacket with at least level II protection would be good enough without going into inserting armor into clothing/weirdness like on my 2nd pic. I'm unsure about the possible size of the ceramic plate, how much would be impractical?
Kayden Gutierrez
Yes. Imagine an uniform like pic related made of UHMWPE. And if we get rid of plates then we don't need plate carriers either, therefore we can go back to hang nearly every piece of equipment on the belt.
Camden White
Well, i dunno. I've got pic related to counter it, though it's not feasible for now so your point is valid.
Brayden Allen
If the military industry wasn't retarded we could just have a plate carrier thin enough just to carry the plate, and then rather than being retarded and putting all your shit and pouches on the plate carrier, just put them on belts around your waist.
William Cook
That's already been done with SAPI plates or really any plate that isn't a stand alone. Just usually it's IIIa all around instead of level II since the plates need a IIIa backer.
Bentley Russell
I wanted them to be separate and the inner layer to be flexible, that's why i chose weaker level. That way you can also make and maintain them for cheaper as you only swap either main plate or even just one segment of it. I'm just unsure if the weight of such plate is actually worth using it, as it does cover too small of an area to be important. It would be sensible if it covered not only 2/3 of each lung but went lower to the waist and stomach and wider to the sides or even shoulders to protect all major blood vessels, but at this point it might be easier to just have a full set or proper armor instead of flak jacket.
Ryan Cooper
Aren't the russians doing that? I'm pretty sure most soldiers are using a plate carrier with pic related over it.
Robert Wright
Are ballistic shields a meme? Looking at the retail prices I could find for UHMPE, while they aren't cheap a sheet of the stuff isn't going to break the bank for anyone other than a hardcore NEET - and gets cheaper if you're prepared to risk buying it from the Chinks. You'd need to add the fittings and shape it yourself but that should be a fun project for a weekend (once you take the planning time into account). I can't find an easy way to calculate an NIJ rating for this, but from the density and thickness figures I've seen this shield should be around level IV - which doesn't sound too bad for something you could build in your garage with hand tools. The weight becomes an issue if you want a tower shield, but smaller designs would help there - or use the sheets to bulletproof a vehicle or bunker if you're a richfag
Isaiah Turner
Not a meme for police work or urban settings, definitely a meme for 99% of military applications. You won't have many situations where crouching behind your shield is a more sound decision than lying down near natural cover.