Muslims used to think we worshiped Mary as part of the trinity (or at all).
Now they talk shit about St. Paul and they gripe about the trinity by telling themselves that it is polytheism. All of it is from ignorance.
Muslims used to think we worshiped Mary as part of the trinity (or at all).
Now they talk shit about St. Paul and they gripe about the trinity by telling themselves that it is polytheism. All of it is from ignorance.
Pretty sure this guy is a con artist, but he's entertaining. He did a video on Paul that seems relevant to this discussion, so I'll just leave it here.
That's in the Quran:
And when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
— Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 116
I was just speaking with a Catholic I knew for years and she's convinced Paul was a heretic. Why are so many people from so many diverse groups rejecting Paul?
I also hear muslims pointing out Emperor Constantine a lot, that he corrupted the teachings also at the council of niacea where he was still pagan
Because modern scholars have driven a wedge into Christianity to separate "Jesusism" from "Paulianity" and the result is what you would expect. St Paul commited the cardinal sin of not having postmodern 21st century socio-political beliefs in the 1st century Levant.
The trouble with this, however, is that once you separate Christ from His apostles, you can then quite easily separate Christ from Christ, when you start to argue over which Gospel is more authentic, to the rejection of others, and then you get Jesus Seminar/Authentic Gospel of Jesus stuff where they vote on which statements seem most authentic and so instead of several chapters of the Gospels you end up with a tailored list of phrases which seem "right".
Then there are those who just go straight for the juggular with trash like Pullman's "The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ".
oldest meme
Thanks Paul. Paul was the example of what God wanted to do with the Jews. All the ancient wisdom channeled through the Messiah. That's when the Law walks and breaths.
Well, if she's genuinely convinced, then she is ipso facto not a Catholic herself.
Paul is the most prolific writers among the apostles and his teachings on correct doctrine, as taught to him by Christ Himself, is fundamental to anything we'd recognize as Christianity. Of course they hate him, he wrekted them thousands of years before they were born.
I wonder if anyone is taken in with His Dark Material's depiction of a luciferian cosmos where the highest exaltation humanity can experience is to shove their souls into a cosmic recycling and be broken down for bits. Then I get sad because of course they do.