Hopefully I'm intruding on you guys' board, but I came to ask for some help with celibacy. I'm a reverted Muslim and find the guides on how to not pollute myself to be dry, if that makes any sense. For instance we are instructed to fast if we feel the need to masturbate. Many friends also tell me to just do other things to keep my mind off of it, which works sometimes but it's hard to keep up on because I'm a homebody person with few friends. In summation of the story that has caused me to build up to this point where I feel masturbation is majorly affecting my life: I've felt rather isolated for these last couple years, even from my family, and it's just something that is easy to indulge in. I do it multiple times a day and feel horrible about it every time. I follow girls on instagram and snapchat who post mildly lewd snaps and that has caused me some issues which have lead to me feeling more serious about fixing my life and coming here to ask you guys about this.
If anyone could post tips and ideas I would be extremely appreciative. Thank you guys and peace be upon you.
I would like to note that actual celibacy(IE:Not marrying) is most likely not for you. For some reason people that come here assume that their years of masturbation means that they're destined to try and become 100% celibate and never have a lewd thought again. Which has happened with a few saints, but, lets be honest with ourselves.
You know what to do, right?
Grayson Reyes
Im confused, are you still a muslim? I forgive you in advance id English is your 2nd language but in regards to your problem, I would cut off the Internet entirely. Than in you free time just study the Bible or some sort of hobby you enjoy.
The important thing it to get rid of the internet not just avoid it, legit get rid of it
Evan Baker
I'm going to shut most social media off before Ramadan and never go back.
Sorry, I'm just really bad at typing. I'm converted from nothing to Islam. And I would like to cut the internet off, but it's a bit difficult to do so with the way school is nowadays. I've thought about getting rid of my computer or limiting it and getting a simpler phone to make these things easier but I keep holding off.
So you are a muslim? Oh well obligitory REEEEEE GET OFF OUR BOARD SARACEN, DEUS VULT That would definitely complicate things. Maybe only use it for schoolwork and if you find yourself straying to the social medias again cry out to God that he give you the strength to avoid it.
Go out for a run, do pushups, get a gym membership, or the tried and true cold shower.
Oh also, after you cry out to God, read Pslams 51. It's prayer I go to when I feel I am going to bate and sin. I pray to God that he watches over you in your struggles and gives you the strength to overcome them.
Tyler Harris
Read the book and don't skip any pages OP.
Austin Turner
Quite honestly I don't find consolation in marriage, at least not as a sexual outlet. So the only way for me to relieve myself sexually is to risk bringing new people into an increasingly confusing and godless age? Least of all do I find this a good reason to try to justify myself as a sexual being.
Xavier Bailey
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Brandon Harris
Though children may be spawned by the unclean and sinful acts of their parents, the children themselves are God-given.
If you put "sexual outlet" over children, you are massively disordered. What justification does a "sexual being" require? Where is this in the Bible? If you want to be celibate, be celibate. If you want to be sexual, it's only licit in regards to procreation. Anything else will disqualify you from inheriting Heaven.
Sebastian Thomas
That user I responded to basically said that we should seek marriage because we likely aren't cut out for celibacy. But speaking personally, and you seem to agree, using entire lives as accessories of one's own lust doesn't seem like any kind of solution. And I certainly never look out into the world and feel the need to subject new people to the spiritual perils I myself am already beset with. So I have no choice and must remain celibate. However I may find a wife anyway since it could be emotionally beneficial I suppose.
Tyler Gutierrez
if it makes you feel better, I don't believe I've ever heard anyone who has ever had children go "aw my 2 year old has the same spiritual afflictions I have, I don't know if this was worth it", even among atheists and other total schlubs
Camden Davis
No, but most people aren't very considerate of the broad picture. There is a scriptural precedent for celibacy and that is something I find great solace in. Nonetheless I may be able to live with myself in the event I should have children on accident but the idea that I should reproduce in good faith is something I doubt. More importantly though, its something I do not have to worry about in the first place.
Tyler Fisher
Stop following these girls, and if you can't help yourself, get rid of Snapchat and Instagram entirely. Remember the words of our Lord.
Ethan Wood
Avoid temptation and don't play with it. If you follow someone on the internet of which you know posts pictures that arouse you .. you might want to stop following. Generally, the internet is a huge trap for young men, because sex is not just everywhere, it's also easily available. I, personally, recover from way over a decade of daily masturbation and pornogrpahy consumption. My confessor told me this: Your sexual drive is exactly that, a drive. When you feel the urge to, try to redirect it to do something useful (for example grab a guitar and play a song etc.). Whenever a very strong urge arises, you need to explore (in a sense of thinking, not by playing with temptation) why that urge comes - because usually urges are a form of ventilation of a certain pressure from within yourself. If you can find out why that pressure is built up and in which situations it unloads so to speak (for example are you sad, or happy, or angry, or anxious .. or all of it together ?), then you can start to work on the situation. Most importantly, however, is this: You need to accept that the drive is part of you as man. God made you this way - and He made it for a good reason: For you to make children and raise them, once the time comes and you find a wife. You shouldn't be fighting it like "no, that's a grave sin I cannot do that, I must not do that". Because then you make it a forbidden fruit, so to speak, and we all know how that works out sooner or later. What you must do is accept that God made you like that, with that sex drive (even tho it is very distorted and probably overpronounced due to pornography and general media attacking good conventions and tricking us), but it is not who you are - it is part of you but it is not you. Because accepting that God made you in a certain way is part of becoming humble, too. Once you can accept that it's a part of you, but doesn't define you - you can handle the urges (and also pictures popping up in your mind) differently. Don't be like but rather like and say a prayer, for example to the Holy Virgin or St. Joseph, patriarch of the holy family. And of course do the obvious: Avoid arousing or straight out sexual pictures, movies, songs, etc. if you can (sometimes that's easier said than done).
Jack Rodriguez
Addition: That being said, living a celibate life - either as clergyman or as laity - is a supernatural vocation. So if you think that is your way, then discern it in prayer.
Blake Martin
Are you seriously saying anyone can go and get a wife? /there are whole communities about that not being the case now.
Caleb Gomez
Yes. These people are 99% just neglecting themselves, spiritually and physically, and their relationship with God. Because, remember: With Christ, everything is possible. Without Him, nothing is possible.
According to the sahabah, masturbation is not forbidden. If you were Muslim, you'd know that.
Abd Allah ibn Abbas. "it is nothing but rubbing one's private parts until a fluid comes out" Abdullah ibn Umar "it is merely rubbing an organ" Jābir ibn Zayd "it is your water; you can discharge it(if you want" Hasan of Basra "there is no harm in it"
Come back to /islam/, brother.
Noah Flores
This.
NoFap is a Jewish lie.
Jayden Mitchell
What about it?
Btw I really appreciate all of the help, guys. I started working out again and am making greater attempts at cutting unneeded sin out of my life.
Robert Wright
Why even bother when you're going to hell anyway?
Orthodoxy or Death!!
Evan Torres
I mean you're worried about nofap and you follow a prophet who despite having several other wives and sex slaves would want to fondle aisha when she was having her period by wrapping a cloth around her?
the man who bragged that he was given the power of 40 men in sex?
the man who said why are you marrying a old woman marry a young girl so you can "sport" with her and she can "sport" with you?
you follow a literal sex addicted demonic person and you're asking about nofap? the man who allowed muta marriage? you have serious issues friend
if you're up for a voice conversation on skype about your new religion, i'd highly recommend following this channel on youtube:
He's a native arabic speaker. There are loads of things in islam of which you have no idea about. You have been scammed and lied to. Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas. He hosts live shows and you can call in and ask or talk about your religion on Skype.
Wyatt Miller
My only advice to you, my dear friend, is to accept Jesus Christ as The Messiah, as your personal Lord and Saviour. Without Jesus Christ, you won't be able to do anything. There is Power in the Name of Jesus. You know that no one goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Light.
That said, whenever I do an Internet search on various topics related to fasting, abstinence, etc. I only see Muslims posting and sharing advice. I never see any Christians posting on how to fast while they have to take a school exam, waging spiritual warfare. I don't know if it's just me, but many Christians have this defeatist attitude, yet Muslims seem so empowered in their belief even though they are following a false deity. This applies to Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, as well. Sometimes I'm at awe at how hard they work, even though their religion and beliefs are all false. Every false religion and cult seems to be like this, all except for true Christians who are weak instead of meek.
Anyways, I do hope you put your faith in Jesus Christ. At least read the Book of Matthew and listen to what Jesus has to say. I've been porn-free and masturbation-free for about 3-4 years now by the Grace of God. Faith without works is dead and I hope this is a wake-up call for you to put your faith in Jesus. God bless.
I was going to follow up and ask some questions about my family life, since my friends just tell me to bear with it, but it seems the thread has been derailed now. Thanks again to those of you who offered help.
