Sup Zig Forums: Hypothetical scenario in which you are a soon to EAS Infantryman who was never able to enter Special Operations due to being colorblind. Lets say you wanted to join a securty firm to earn a bigger pay check instead of being paid basically minimum wage to mop the grass in the rain.
Do security companies accept prior Infantry or is it just secret squirrel operators getting into that line of work?
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My impression is that there's work for regular guys especially if they've seen combat, but the market's shrinking now that the US is generally wrapping up its presence in the ME.
We have had this thread a thousand times.
Requestan the "Men in their midlife crisis go to Afghanistan and pretend to be oper8tors" documentary.
Join the french foreign legion, and after the 5 year contract you can join any PMC you want.
Im not sure about this but I think that there is some sort of laser eye surgery that can fix your eye sight.
There is, it's called LASIK. It comes in a mechanical or laser based form (depending on how much you want to pay to reduce the 1% chance of permanent eye injury down to 0.3% chance). It's cheaper to fly to Korea and get it done there (the doctors are good because it's a common practice there). The legion will have no clue you got surgery if you don't tell them, and it will improve your vision until you're in your late 40s. Don't do it if you plan to reenlist because the US military considers it a major surgery and grounds for not letting you in/kicking you out.
Pretty sure they check all your medical history
Any specialist worth their dime can see you had surgery.
Also i already tried everything possible, hell i even wanted to try artificial lens implanted into my eye over real life lens. Money was no issue as i saved money for the purpose of fixing my eyes for well over 5 years now
But guess what, i dont qualify for laser since my cornea or something is too thin to cut properly and my pupils are too large at night to be covered by artificial lens competently so i would have fucked up night vision. Also Polish army also considers all of this "major surgery and grounds for not letting you in/kicking you out" so im sure it must be this way in most of european armies, legion included. Shit sucks but tough life, i guess ill just stick to being a poor fucking infantry in polish army and roll with the contact lenses.
Also hear my out Zig Forumsommandos, take care of your eyesight, be glad that most of you have healthy eyes.
But whats wrong with eye surgery?
Depends on surgery type, some surgeries exclude you from enlisting into armed forces.
Nothing, they're just paranoid and retarded. They think it disqualifies you from enlisting in the legion but it doesn't. All they care about is your dental condition and not suffering from any serious life-threatening diseases.
Yeah i looked it up before
US submarine periscope operators (enlisted and officer) are eligible for (((free))) LASIK under certain circumstances.
That's officers and it's approved by the.military. It's totally different from a grunt getting eye surgery when he was still a civilian.
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This isn't like plastic surgery or a breast reduction where they're leaving behind large amounts of scar tissue, you nigger. They're cutting a tiny membrane and blasting your eye with a laser before covering it up and letting the eye restitch itself. Most of the time it doesn't even leave a scar, and on the rare occasions when it does leave a circular scar, it can only be seen with high-strength magnifiers which no "specialist" is going to bother with when they have to screen you and 100 other faggots that day. Shit, if a girl can get away with having a giant-ass scar running down her leg by just wearing leggings because the doctors are too busy to give enough of a shit to make her actually strip naked, then I doubt they're going to take a high-powered microscope to your eye looking for tiny trace scar tissue unless you give them a damn good reason to do so. It's one thing if you do so in your home country where they can pull up pictures of you wearing giant-ass rims on your face growing up and put two and two together, versus joining a foreign military (French foreign legion or Russian foreign legion or PMC, etc.) where the only picture they'll see of you is shit you've posted on social media maybe (which they likely will never bother to look at anyways) or your identification pictures (which all require you to take off your glasses anyways).
They can only check your medical records if you're French (unless there's some law on the books in the EU that they can do otherwise). If you're from a foreign country, there's literally no way for them to check your medical records unless it's obvious shit that you told them because of confidentiality laws. Just don't report that you got LASIK surgery. It's really that simple. Lie, nigga. Lie!
-11 and -10?
Fuck.
I'm like -5 and -4 and I'm basically blind without lenses.
I saw a psychologist twice as a teenager for depression type shit. Never diagnosed, stopped going after the second meeting and never took any meds.
I applied for the Navy but was psychologically rejected for a year as it was still really recent at the time.
I'm thinking about having a crack at the army this time in an engineering role.
Those two psych sessions (that the ADF know about) would keep me from ever going SOER, right?
Like no fucking hope even though I'm fine now that I'm not a hormonal teenager?
Isn't today's foreing legion full of russkies and kebabs?
Isn't that the idea? I wanted to join too, after graduating school. Could not decide if i wanted to get a higher education/job or start from a blank in a more hopefull country. 2 years later, here i still am, with the same "pretend to be German" ISP, just dropped out of university, working a stable job and hitting the gym to meet the physical requirements for joining the local landguard.
I think it used to be full of germans, now armies are full of people there for gibs.
I've always wanted to join an army and the french foreign legion always had my interest, but i don't want to join if it means being surrounded by sandniggers for the next few years
It always was
They're mostly slavs, and a few chinks/gooks. Kebabs don't stay for long because the slavs bully them
Why have westerners become such huge pussies? There are very few jobs as respectable as the Mercenary's.
I've heard that they'll take ex-cops or even rent-a-cops, you just gotta know someone on the inside to get you in like with literally every single other job in the second/third world :^)
I don't think this has ever been the case, mercenary's have been wildly disliked by people for a very long time.
wtf am i reading
What the hell are you smoking? Mercenaries were hated trough the whole history, even in medieval times Landsknechts and Italian mercenaries were hated by general populations. Rulers dudnt like them because they were disloyal and not as willing to die as knights, population hated them because they seen them as immoral, murderers for money and just another type of bandits
Nobody cares about what a bunch of weak peasants think. People who are not retarded recognize the beauty of the mercenary. War is part of human nature and mercenaries are therefore a natural respectable thing.
Killing shitskins because you enjoy war is better than dying for Israel
Nobody can deny that taking part in wars is as manly as you can get. Problem is when you run away and side with the enemy because your service pay is expected to arrive tomorrow instead of today. Being part of the warrior elite (aka nobility) and going to wars that way is superior to being a mercenary…
Because mercenaries are a direct threat to state monopoly both on violence, war, warmongering and virtue-signalizing about it all, as well as an example of someone capable doing their job at the same time when their military is the synonym of retardation and a bunch of welfare queens despite all the wuss state creates.
Thanks for the vid, gonna have to track that movie down
Any other good documentaries about the wars in the dark continent?
Mercenaries are a necessity, so they have also been around forever be both used and hated. I agree that they were always inferior to the house soldiers of knights and nobility. However, I think their reputations should be better understood man to man and company to company. Some of the best mercenaries could be very good men who had a sense of loyalty, men who would only fight for certain powers and never against the enemies of their people. Then you have the truest rotten mercenary whose only master was gold.
Nobody bitched about the Landsknechts when they fought invading Turks. These men fought for pay as private fighters, but how often did they fight against their people? They often provided the manpower and fighting ability to end wars and protect people. It wasn't always negative, many were never traitors. Many would not fight against their own people, some had scuples and beliefs. Sure, they didn't fight as hard as house soldiers who were loyal and fought for the cause absolutely, the mercenary needs to live to fight again for money. But all in all there is some good, much more in some than others.
The most dastardly of all mercenaries were those who only served money, some went as far as betraying their own contracts. You could tell the most rotten of them when you could offer them higher pay before a battle started and they would switch sides. These mercenaries, and well meaning good ones like above, still exist. Some companies will honor contracts and refuse to fight for enemies, others are cutthroatrs out for whatever money they can get from anyone, perhaps even the devil. The extra bad from the worst of them taint the image of all of them.
Sorry nigs, I have bills to pay and being an E3 sure as shit aint making enough money
The reason mercs are seen as pillaging heartless monstrous bastards is very simple - despite many, if not all countries doing that, mercenaries weren't backed up by political games and so had no way to retaliate when they're blamed for the "war crimes", unlike some noble fags that could censor that, spread rumors, often controlled the ones who made any notes so they put praises of their master(or sponsor) in them, or give more money to the church to (((forgive))) their sins.
The difference you're talking about is the one between professional mercenaries and the ones you could call situational ones. Professional ones are actually full-time mercs that have existed for some time and have proper orderly hierarchy and organization within ranks. Situational mercs, on the other hand, are just a bunch of people banded into a group not dissimilar to some thug band, usually not because of the good life. They are not really dissimilar to some recruits gathered from nearby villages and given some autonomy.
Literally never the case, and some of the best troops you could get were mercenaries(see Landsknechts, Swiss). If we're talking some serious war instead of a minor conflict, there have been plenty of disputes and conflicts between vassals and it never looked like the magic holy people you imagine. It wasn't the other way too, there have been some very professional troops within regular armies as well, but it was nothing like complete superiority, there have been plenty of bad troops among both groups, as well as good ones and none of them differed much in either brutality, discipline(though here recruits have an edge, even if you take vassals into consideration) and skill(though here mercs were better, at least within elite units).
I stated that one part poorly, so I should elaborate. Not so much that they were always the best fighters, but house soldiers were overall better in every aspect in all consideration. Even if you liked your Landsknechts and they were an honorable and good company of fighters, the next time you need them for war they might be somewhere else fighting a war. Your house soldiers are always with you ready for war. If there is a dispute or war between you and other nobles, the honorable company you hired before might also take an honorable contract to them. A house soldier is always your solider, the mercenary not really, only as long as you have a contract with him.
A lower end house soldier in the hand might be worth two good mercenaries fighting for another noble 1,000 miles away in a different conflict.
How much money would one need to start a PMC business? $100,000? $200,000? $500,000? A million?
I disagree.
Yeah, that's a disincentive to go to war. That's less of an issue if there's more mercenaries, though, especially if they are stationed on your land. Not only they won't fight against someone who wants to attack the land they set in comfortably, they might offer you help in order to secure the stability of the region. Reminder: mercenaries weren't always hired all, it was usually done in units, so even if some of they are away at the current moment, there's others left, and your other people aren't going to disappear too, if your land is worth living it, they might join the fight as well. Again, Switzerland is a good example.
And always ready for their payment, supplies, equipment and all other expenses. Mercenaries offer you a complete package where these things are already resolved. Unless you're at constant way your soldiers will be an ongoing expense that drains your country's resources, while mercenaries manage themselves and easier to access in case of trouble.
Mercenaries' services would also improve(both in quality and price) when there's more of them due to competition and industry around them, while the bigger your army is, the more difficult it is to manage. You could even plan your policies that way so they create comfortable conditions for mercenary organizations and build your infrastructure around them, securing their dependency on your country and incentivizing them to support it. That's all even without mentioning additional resources they'd bring, allowing your country to grow richer as others fight each other, with new money flowing in your economy every time mercenaries are used. You just need to make sure they want to return.
Well, it depends. Proper ongoing company that can actually attract people in it and get proper contracts? Probably more than that. A way to start? You need to find willing people, transport them somewhere with realizable demand(like Africa), get them weapons and supplies and have enough to keep they plentiful. Then if you find a contractor you're technically a mercenary company. There's probably an easier way, if you could organize that from within an already existing PMC, as they already have the supply chains established and you probably know either some good men or even leaders/organizers in it. Then it might be a lot easier.
To clarify, you could become a subcontractor and get hired by larger PMCs. I don't know about how viable this strategy is, though.
Handled by different departments. It would be something like
do you unironically think that they go through every grunt's social media? are you retarded?
Do you unironically think every grunt has/needs security clearance? Are you retarded?
What, in your mind, is "security clearance", and what makes you think that in any world there's a number of people going through every applicant's social media profiles?
Form 86 Questionnaire for National Security Positions, you god damn nigger.
Try working a halfway decent job in your life within an urban environment and if you're not bound by ITAR regulations, you're required to have a fucking security clearance for just about any fucking trades, IT, or engineering job that pays more than $80k/year in the US of A.
state.gov
Shit dude, my "job" in the army is to literally answer phones and make shitton of coffee and even I need to have security clearance. After the whole 911 and Snowden thing it became rather fashionable to have security clearance requirements for everything.
No idea wtf that whole background check procedure entails even. Probably a quick database query to see if you can be found in some glow in the dark Tinder.
I'm well aware that it exists, moron, I'm asking you what you think it is
Get a real job. I'm an 11b iraq vet and it means fuckall on a resume.
Besides, why do you want to risk your life fighting for the jews? Pmc work is for brainlets who end up in body bags as an unreported statistic.
fuck is that true?
I want to get into some kind of job that will give me combat experience but I don't know if I should enlist or go to a police academy.
I'd rather get paid actual money and not be treated like a retarded child but if there's no PMC jobs I may just be fucked.
Yes and you are retarded if you think thats not the case, clearly you have never been in the military. Every private NEEDS to have level 1 security clearance
Fighting nigger rebels in Africa is worth risking my life for. Civilian life has never before in human history been so meaningless and boring. Some proper action and sense of purpose is what a man needs, and if PMCs can offer that to him, why shouldn't he join?
Not unless you find a back channel that you can store all your war trophies after each contract. And you better have real access to unrestricted distributors so you can buy all those NVGs, thermal, undisclosed lvl IV plates, full autos, 40mm, uncucked laser devices, all that goodness.
Otherwise PMC jobs sound pretty much shit tier, risking own life for kikes without even playing with some real toys.
Maybe for you, but I wouldn't mind being given the bare minimum gear, told to fuck up some local villages and get paid $800 at the end of the month if I make it back alive.
Much better than working on some shitty boring office
What if those niggers were standing in the way of the kikes?
800 shekels netto is slavery, m8, considering that PMC work is 24/7, especially if you are just some cannon fodder.
And it is not just a waste of time not getting to play with big toys. The fact that I can't find a way to store war trophies means:
-I don't have toys, pretty much cucked like Rambo was (and most veteran ZOGbots in general) after contracts are over. No return of time investment
-I can't store loot. Waste of time and actual money
All the positives of fighting for kikes!
When I need a protection detail for my trips to Africa, dealing with warlords and conflict diamonds, I promise to hire any autists here first before seeking established professionals. If you survive the mission, you can keep one diamond each to stick on your 'Diamond Dogs' patch.
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There is a 2013 british miniseries called "Mercenaries" that has a lot of shit about Executive Outcomes and that one dude who flew around in a Hind ventilating bush niggers. Probably have to torrent it.
Well that and kebabs don't need that FFL to get French citizenship :^)
I looked into it 4 years ago and even bullshit pmc companies wanted 7 years of combat experience minimum
Yep. I wanted to do what you wanted to do, but unless you've got SOCOM experience, you're generally unwanted. I've got 3 Afghanistan Infantry deployments under my belt, and I couldn't find dick on the private security market that wasn't mall cop or "local security" fat-fuckery. So now I work on air conditioners and make a shit-ton of money anyway.
From experience, if you got cross trained experience like a SOTA and intelligence with a deployment or did some nominal stuff with a clearance and deployed for something, you can actually get away with a lot if you have the clearance. Hell some contracts are willing to take people at a cheaper rate with just LEO or C/O experience. I know because I have a guy who is basically doing that shit for me looking for jobs. I am just waiting on my degree, do if I can get my degree I can go back in as an officer at worst or get the hook up at some comfy govy job till I start up my gun shop.
Also if you want something similar, that will get you experience, and you have good grades and aren't a retard US marshals doesn't care about Lasik, and neither do the glow nigs. You get experience with them, and you are usually pretty set.
Though I must specify, it's usually harder to get a job post glow if you are fired. US marshals for whatever reason is a weird work around I have seen for some places, and I think people do it because it specifically allots for people who have the skills required for the job but not military. My experience is limited though because I'm a pretty unique fucking case mostly due to happenstance and being in the wrong place at the right time with a confusing enough resume and the ability to bullshit really fucking good.
Don't tell them. Literally, they can't access your psych shit unless you got locked up so don't tell them shit.
Good luck, they're just taking women and abos these days.