German KSK operator up to no good

Christopher Green
Christopher Green

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Media report German KSK special forces commando suspended for right-wing extremism

Germany's Bundeswehr has suspended a lieutenant colonel in the elite Special Forces Command (KSK) commando unit on suspicion of right-wing extremism, according to the military's counterintelligence service MAD.

The KSK, a unit of about 70 soldiers, made headlines last year after a farewell party for a company commander featured a soldier demonstrating the Hitler salute and right-wing rock music.

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Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

Didn't have Ragnar play for them live? For shame.

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

He's fairly high ranking as well, interesting.

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

Blue Falcons are always watching. I wonder what kind of change he could've brought to the german army if he had gone higher in rank. I wonder if there are those in the U.S. Army that have gotten shat on for similar things because I know it's pretty much illegal to express your political beliefs at all as a soldier. Got to love how cucked it all is.

Logan Fisher
Logan Fisher

None. He would have been purged for wrong thoughts no matter the rank. Political purges are normal nowadays.

James Wood
James Wood

Am I mistaken or did the krauts also have kskommandos planning an insurgency a few years ago?

Brandon Martin
Brandon Martin

Why are lefties surprised that there are nationalists in the military, a place where strong bodies, weapons, discipline and love & loyalty for the fatherland are taught and respected?

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Parker Hall
Parker Hall

You would be correct.
In 2018, the German Federal Criminal Police Office uncovered a plot involving neo-Nazi soldiers of the KSK and former members of the unit to murder prominent German politicians such as Claudia Roth, Heiko Maas and Joachim Gauck among others
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommando_Spezialkräfte

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

invest alot of money and resources into elite special forces
train them to be absolute killing machines
they turn on you and laugh
you fire them (thinking this will discipline them) but piss them off and make them only more determined to kill you
left can't into reality

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Wyatt Cook
Wyatt Cook

God damn I love balaclavas

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Noah Lewis
Noah Lewis

(((Great purge)))?

Adrian Ross
Adrian Ross

I wonder what kind of change he could've brought to the german army if he had gone higher in rank.
None, he's a single man, even as a General Officer your reach is only unit wide. In that vein, he was able to preserve legality and professionalism a bit longer.

I wonder if there are those in the U.S. Army that have gotten shat on for similar things because I know it's pretty much illegal to express your political beliefs at all as a soldier. Got to love how cucked it all is.
No you are mistaken. It is perfectly acceptable for Leftist to openly speak out or protest. Entire units have been penalized for displaying or indicating any right-wing or nationalist ideals. An example of this has been the shitshow that is West Point; Spencer Rapone who was not only allowed to graduate, but was stationed with 10th Mountain for the past two years and was only discharged because Ted "Zodiac" Cruz had latched onto the incident during the election of a photo of Rapone posing with a Che shit on under his cadet uniform. In the same year, the incident of a photo of black, females cadets posing in front of Nininger Hall posing with their clenched fists in the Black Power symbol…they were cleared of any wrong doing. Now, that NSW group that was flying the Trump flag, they were "administratively punished".

Luke Gray
Luke Gray

I think the whole story was essentially just a complete fabrication. I believe that politicians in Germany and Austria are purging the security organs of any and all personnel that have any right wing or nationalistic ideas or leanings. It's just so much more convenient to make up some shocking story that no one would ever dare to question, and thus you can sweep out a whole lot of people without raising any eyebrows, even if their worst offensive was to share a "gates of vienna" article or something like that.

In Finland a guy got kicked out of territorial troops for doing his civilian job and not letting niggers board the bus for free.

Friendly green-men can't do friendly green-man things without equipment though.

They're not surprised, which is why they are purging them.

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

None, but for other reasons and mentioned.
The German army is currently controlled top-down. A lot of the corrupt shit is happening in the ministry of defense, not among those who wear a uniform.

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

green men are the weapons though? even still being who they are I'm sure they could make do with some old FM's and a combat knife.
Hell they likely know where all the shit is stored, and if not, then where the guys are who DO know where it's at.
I don't think they guys who do know would have any problem lending a helping hand, even if they didn't, these guys are SF, I'm sure they know a few tricks to convince the boot firewatch otherwise.

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

Kind of off-topic, but what is it with the Bundeswehr hiring foreigners into their ranks? I'm not really an expert of things such as this, but isn't it kind of Western Rome-tier idiocy to give weapons to those who have a higher chance to use it against you and your people than those originating from your country?

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

Dude, you are acting like ANY western military is under sane control.

It's all jewed.

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

Me too

Eli Roberts
Eli Roberts

Is there a picture of anyone in a three-hole balaclava that doesn't make him look retarded?
but what is it with the Bundeswehr hiring foreigners into their ranks
Foreigners won't hesistate to shoot the native population.

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

Not the Bundeswehr, but the EU forces will be solely staffed with outside killers. Also the Merkel/Erdogan deal about building new mosques is "allegedly" a front to smuggle and deliver weapons to the extremists muslims. Furthermore the kike media is radicalizing young muslims with music and movies like there's no tomorrow. This will be an all out war for survival.

Xavier Diaz
Xavier Diaz

Is there a picture of anyone in a three-hole balaclava that doesn't make him look retarded?
Um how about this?

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Jack White
Jack White

I believe that politicians in Germany and Austria are purging the security organs of any and all personnel that have any right wing or nationalistic ideas or leanings.
Around half a year ago the police raided the BVT (counterintelligence & anti-terrorism agency of the interior ministry suspecting corruption (entire thing caused a nice little scandal on the way), afterwards the employees whatsapp group chat went public and turned out to be nothing but /pol/ memes, porn and which co-worker they'd fuck.
E.g. pics related

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Carter Campbell
Carter Campbell

If your country win the war II then none of this mess exist.

Austin Walker
Austin Walker

That works.

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

The jews have destroyed civilizations for thousands of years. This "mess" will only end if the entire world marches on Jerusalem to reclaim to cradle of god. Maybe this time enough humans will have common sense and start working together to end the jews forever.

Carter Anderson
Carter Anderson

(how do you say checked in polish?)
I got it from paratrooperarmynavy.com/product/acrylic-3-hole-ski-mask/

Robert Morales
Robert Morales

This "mess" will only end if the entire world marches on Jerusalem to reclaim to cradle of god. Maybe this time enough humans will have common sense and start working together to end the jews forever.
I want to believe that you are right but a half of my brain say it’s impossible so go in the space and colonise the planet. I don’t know why I think this. Why is it always white people that have incredibly strong instinct to colonise everything?

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

EU forces
I thought that it's pretty much a meme. Did that bitch over there in Berlin lost her mind? How does she expect it to work? Europe will be a slaughterhouse all over again, but now with sandniggers and shitskins involved…

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

I think the whole story was essentially just a complete fabrication. I believe that politicians in Germany and Austria are purging the security organs of any and all personnel that have any right wing or nationalistic ideas or leanings. It's just so much more convenient to make up some shocking story that no one would ever dare to question, and thus you can sweep out a whole lot of people without raising any eyebrows, even if their worst offensive was to share a "gates of vienna" article or something like that.

This.
We have the same thing in France, everyone even slightly suspected to be slightly right from cuckservatism is always expelled (in a country were a third of the voters are voting extreme right…).
Except in France this shit has been going on forever so everyone knows to STFU and hide their power levels which resulted in a rather extremely right wing brass but that is always hiding it's convictions by reflex.

In recent scandals you had the 2016-2019 St-Cyr Special Military School (main officer school) promotion that lost his name under the pretense the General whose name they had picked was a fuming anti-commie.

And not one of questionable allegiance like Petain, a guy that directed anti-communist networks in the army in the 30's (and got sacked for it when the press got wind of it, already), reinstated in 1939 for the war, beat up a fleeing minister for cowardice, got thrown in prison for it, got reinstated, France lost, immediately created the firsts resistance networks in 1940, ended up backtabbed by Vichy (despite having been one of Petain's aide most of military life) and given to the Germans, ended up in concentration camp for it (Mathausen), survived a "death march".
Of course having been a rabid anti-commie meant that when he came back in France (which had a de facto commie government) he spent most of his time in jail going from trial to to trail (despite never being condemned of anything as all he ever did was serve France and hating on commies, which at the time were saboteurs, deserters and when not outright terrorists) until he was finally cleared of all accusation and fully rehabilitated, reinstated and posthumously upranked to general.

Ok that guy is fucking national hero by any sane appreciation.
But he said means things about commies.
And some mean things about jews were written in one of the (many) magazine he published.
And possibly he might have asked the German embassy of putting him in charge to form a government (though him being at the time Petain right hand and being as much anti-german as he was anti-communist, it's most likely an Abwehr fake, if not a straight up journalist fake as no one has actually seen said document, or some plot he was cooking up).
So they outright debaptized the promotion…

Saint Cyr has:
-an actual Pétain promotion (no comment).
-a Franchet d'Espèrey promotion (actual fascist and antisemite).
-Several Napoleon themed promotion (no comment).
-a Leclerc promotion (complete antisemite).
-a Thomazo promotion (actual putchist in 1958. One of the founders of the National Front… you know the actual extreme right party of France?).

But hey at least none of them said bad things about the reds or the germans…

Sebastian King
Sebastian King

Europe will be a slaughterhouse all over again, but now with sandniggers and shitskins involved…
Are you saying that wasn't the plan?

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

She is trying to destroy the Europe because she is a traitorous lying commie bitch.

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

The plan is to make euromutt forces to exterminate bad white goyim who have kids and don't even molest them or at least give them to fags/shitskins.

Jackson Turner
Jackson Turner

It comes up every once in a while.
Basically the Bundeswehr has so many open positions that some politicians are suggesting we should open the ranks for:
a) citizens of other EU nations
b) citizens without any Schulabschluss
c) refugees, who will receive citizenship in return
All of these (except c) have been discussed on and off in the last couple of years. Nobody likes the idea, but they are not too keen on accepting the other option:
d) pay soldiers enough to compete with the civilian market
Currently a mechanic in the Bundeswehr, after receiving many years of training and obtaining loads of experience not only fixing, working on, with and underneat all kinds of vehicles, and leading up to 50 men and organizing what is literally a platoon of men earns less than someone who just got his Meister. So it's only logical to leave as soon as possible and earn fat stacks of cash.

Actually, it's mostly Macaroni pushing for this meme. Merkel has been trying to stay away from it mostly because a lot of her voter-base is still very pacifist.
Macaroni has a point though. At the moment all of EU's armed forces combined are roughly the same size of the US's armed forces. If all of EU were to work together in a sort of NATO-of-europe there might be a small chance to defend against Russia, or enforce political decisions outside the EU.
The problem with that is mostly
a) coordination
b) national pride and undestanding

a) Try to make a Pole and Spaniard talk in English and understand each other. Now attempt the same thing under combat conditions. The US has the massive advantage of a nearly homogenous society with mostly understandable accents of the same language. There aren't 20 different langauges in the US. A guy from Florida can be told to move to Washington state and it probably wouldn't be a massive problem. Attempt the same with a Dane moving to southern France and you will fail.
Also: everyone and their mother wants armaments contracts. Germany however has the most active arms industry in Europe. It would be a financial loss for all other members of the EU to standardize equipment of one type to make training easier.

b) In the US there might be some fags pretending to be more attached to their state than to the entiree nation, but in the end everyone cheers USA USA USA when Osama bin Laden got killed and stands at attention for the US hymn. You go ahead and tell every soldier in the EU to honour the EU and possibly die for the safety of some other nation and you are going to run into trouble quickly.

Elijah Scott
Elijah Scott

Our children and grandchildren will become minority and get surrounded by the non-white people and be hunted by them for ever. This is not future we wanted.

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

That’s a very constructive post so keep it up good work.

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

there might be a small chance to defend against Russia
If you wanted to do that then you'd need an actual anti-Russian allaince, and it's a bit hard to do since currently there isn't an ideology for this. The EU stands for limp-dicked librul democracy, and Russia is a semi-competent autocracy paying a little lip service to this very same concept of liberal democracy. So you can't just reform the anti-comintern pactum and remake the Waffen SS. You could get Poland and the Baltics into it, but the Baltics prefer to co-operate with Germany instead of Poland. There's Ukraine in theory, but we all know about the practice. Romania is currently trying to stand against Russia, but it's Romania, they will just stab all of their allies in the back, so you should just leave them alone. Maybe you could get us into it, but we are currently being led by a fat gypsy and his jewish lackeys, and they prefer to suck every possible dick, including Putin's. Maybe Finland could be mentioned here, but they know all too well that it's easier to deal with the Russians if you have a strong army and leave them alone.

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

At least Australia isn’t in Europe. I feel sad for the Slavic, Anglo, Germanic, etc races because they have suffered many tragic wars throughout the years due to stupid jew actions. I prefer the war to occur in Israel instead of Europe so they get the taste of the sweet revenge.

Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

At the moment all of EU's armed forces combined are roughly the same size of the US's armed forces.
Huh?
No they're not, England is leaving the EU next month.
That leave 88k french soldiers, 60k Germans 60k Poles and a literal handful of soldiers from Benelux and two faggots from Sweden and one machete and mustache wearing Portuguese which is probably the most professional of the bunch.
Italy can bring some ships to the table and that's about it before bringing the hordes of europoors that haven't shot a gun in basic since 1928.

Zachary Carter
Zachary Carter

England is leaving EU.
I hope so. I want the entire England to become a state of Australia.

Jackson Robinson
Jackson Robinson

Truth is stranger than fiction

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Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

Lad we really aren't in a rush to become a chink colony.

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

<At the moment all of EU's armed forces combined are roughly the same size of the US's armed forces.
England is leaving the EU next month.
<At the moment

60k Germans
That's quite the understatement. While it's true that the wikipedia number of nearly 200.000 German soldiers includes a lot of desk-jokeys and logistics-soldiers, but assuming that more than 75% of our entire army is non-combat, or not combat fit is simply inaccurate.
>and a literal handful of soldiers from Benelux
I always wondered if a handful means 5, as in one hand to count, or as many as can fit into one hand.
mustache wearing Portuguese which is probably the most professional of the bunch.
I chuckled heartily.

Thomas Foster
Thomas Foster

but assuming that more than 75% of our entire army is non-combat, or not combat fit is simply inaccurate.
And I guarantee you I'm being generous.
A german brigade at full strength is 4 500 men (like most brigades).

The Heer is made up of the Luftlandebrigade 1 and Luchtmobielebrigade 11 for airborne, Panzerlehrbrigade 9, Panzerbrigade 21, Panzerbrigade 12, for mechanized infantry, Panzergrenadierbrigade 41, Gebirgsjägerbrigade 23 and Panzergrenadierbrigade 37 for motorized infantry.

You do the maths.
Now sure there are a couple battalions scattered here and there, but that's assuming all those brigade are at full strength (they're not).
Call me when you find the 164k men missing.

Jaxon Collins
Jaxon Collins

I'm very much in agreement with this.
It appears KSK has a "renegade" group

This is the commander mentioned in OP, at who's farewell party they had right wing bands and supposedly threw Hitler salutes:
2013–2017: Brigadier General Dag Knut Baehr*

*Brigadier general Dag Baehr has previously served twice as a field officer in the KSK: First, under the command of Brigadier general Schulz, when it was founded from 1996 until 1999 and then again between 2004 until 2007 under the command of Brigadegeneral Hartbrod.[7]

dw.com/en/far-right-extremism-probe-into-elite-german-army-unit-opens/a-40138355

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Baehr

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Mason James
Mason James

Do you happen to remember if it was before or after the previous SKS boogaloo where some Austrian officers got purged because one of them allegedly had a shit ton of explosives and a plan to fuck some politicians shit up?

How does a officer even manage to defend himself against such accusitions, assuming that in reality he had no explosives stashed away, nor did he have plans to start his genocidal crusade? Lets just say that his greatest errors were boomer tier opsec and boomer tier social.media usage. He had nationalistic feelings, and someone in the political intel field noticed that this goy is in the security elements and he has wrong opinions.

Next thing our bad goyim knows is that he was just a minute ago posting funny memes on Facebook about Albanian nuclear holocaust, and now he is sitting in the back of a police car. He gets put into jail, then he gets accused of having 666kg of explosived stashed away in his garden shed. And of planned assasination, terrorism, instigation of violence against minorities, illegal poaching that his cat did etc.

These are all things that a) no one can actually even see or investigate because it's too dangerous or b) or even disprove as proof of emails or Facebook posts can be fabricated afterwards with some effort if need arises. And completely hidden from.public view because muh top sekrit methods.

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

[chec/k/ed]

I am not the person you were quoting but I want to reply to an earlier post of yours when you said this is basically inscenated.
I don't believe it is.
I'm really surprised no one has touched on the subject of Reichsburger, to which this commando and several other former / still serving? SKS members are part of.

quoting article:
THE REICHSBÜRGER MOVEMENT IN GERMANY
What do Reichsbürger believe?
Reichsbürger translates to "citizens of the Reich." What unites this loose movement is rejection of the modern Federal Republic of Germany. They believe the 1937 or 1871 borders of the German Empire still exist and today's country is an administrative construct still occupied by the Allied powers. Many subscribe to far-right or anti-Semitic ideologies. Their (((conspiracy theories))) have
edit: not
been debunked

How much of a threat are they?
The Reichsbürger scene is a disparate, leaderless movement totalling about 15,000 supporters, according to German intelligence officials. Of those, about 900 have been identified as far-right extremists and 1,000 have a license to own firearms. Authorities are concerned about some members' potential to become violent and have conducted several raids on Reichsbürger suspects to sieze weapons.

Who are its members?
Typically, Reichsbürger refuse to recognize any state apparatus, printing their own passports and driving licenses.

What are the authorities doing about it?
German authorities have been accused of long underestimating the threat posed by the Reichsbürger. Since the murder of the police officer in Bavaria, law enforcement has been cracking down on them more vigorously. In the past year there have been several raids on Reichsbürger targets. Some German police and military forces have also probed whether they may have Reichsbürger among their own ranks.

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/id_85226610/ksk-soldaten-sollen-waffendepots-fuer-tag-x-anlegen.html

Carson Evans
Carson Evans

Friendly green-men can't do friendly green-man things without equipment though.
As our friend has pointed out green men are the weapon, they're trained to operate in a non-permissive environment with minimal and/or non-existent equipment. You really think a group of purged KSK operators can't find weapons, Europe had a burgeoning illicit arms market and these guys have the contacts to fulfill their needs.

Carter Ramirez
Carter Ramirez

No, you're far too busy restoring the Caliphate.

Jaxon Collins
Jaxon Collins

200>>647703
A german brigade at full strength is 4 500 men (like most brigades).
Stop. That's wrong.
I used to be part of a recon battalion, each company had at least 100 men. Our battalion has 5 companies, of which one is for training, and one is support (maintenance and long distance communication). The other three companies are proper recon companies. Add to that about 100 men in staff and medical, and you get 600 men in total, of which 50% (300 men=3 companies) were proper recon soldiers. Keep in mind that guys like the maintenance platoon are used to getting called out to TIC and making vehicles go while under fire, so you could argue that more than 50% is fit for action.
Because our battalion is a recon battalion we have fewer men per platoon than usual. A normal company has roughly 200 men.
As part of our brigade, we got a Tank battalion, three mechanized infantry battalions, an armored engineers battalion and a logistics battalion.
That's 1 R, 3 ME, 1 T, 1 E and 1 L battalions.
Assuming that ME battalions have twice the number of men with the same 50/50 split and the T battalion has the same number of men with the same 50/50 split as our recon battalion you got
: 2400 combat men and 2400 non-combat. (50/50)
Now add in the armored engineers with the same numbers as the recon battalion (massive overestimate, been there, they are tiny, maybe 200 men total) and the logistics battalion at the same size ass the recon battalion too (know a lot of them, probably accurate estimate), and you get:
2400 combat men and 3600 non-combat men and a total of 6k men in one brigade.
That's a 40% combat and 60% non-combat, with the "generous" numbers for armored engineers, reserving one company for training purposes, and a very large staff and medical section for each battalion (200 men for the ME battalions). So in reality we are looking X<60%, where X is the percentage of non-combat men in the army. The Luftwaffel and Marinade are a different story, but they are gay anyways, so who cares :^)

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

anti-Semitic ideologies
But Hitler's treatment of jews (although mostly zionist ones) was much better than in Poland, Russia or Ukraine
Just a reminder that Germans needed to send a Gestapo intervention to Łódź ghetto to tell Chaim Rumkowski to chill out with the antisemtism.

Reichsburger sounds a lot like sovereign citizens, except more autistic.

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Joseph Collins
Joseph Collins

Almost as if Hitler was actually the objective "good guy" in all of this but was instead painted as the "bad guy" by the actual bad guys.

except more autistic
This is why Preußen was so successful, they made it a point to be experts in their field of study. Gott mit uns, faggot.

Brandon Bell
Brandon Bell

good guy
makes deals with zionists and secures their existence in Palestine.
Truth is, game was rigged from the start.

Adrian Robinson
Adrian Robinson

I did not know about this.
Here is what I could find (article from 8th February 2019)

google translated:
The occasion for questioning the intelligence services in the committee was taz research into the fact that several KSK soldiers had founded a conspiratorial network in which the suspected right-wing terrorist and Bundeswehr soldier Franco A. was also a member. Also included as part of the network were two suspects from northern Germany, who were alleged to have scheduled and liquidated persons from the so-called left-wing spectrum on an undefined "Day X" - the Nordkreuz Group.

Prepper chat groups for day X

Central figure of this network is André S., who also appears under the pseudonym Hannibal. He too was a KSK soldier and left the unit only last spring. He had administered so-called prepper chat groups, which were about the preparation for the day X. He also founded a club, Uniter eV , in which active and former special forces from the police, the Bundeswehr and the private security industry network - and also conduct military combat training. The government now announces: S. is still in the service of the Bundeswehr. He was now - as before his KSK time - used as a paratrooper, it said in the defense committee.

The Federal Government's letter states that investigations would be conducted against André S. for violating the German Weapons and Explosives Act. The allegations against him justified the initiation of disciplinary action.

André S. is one of at least three KSK soldiers who communicated with Franco A. in a chat group. These three were questioned by the BKA and their homes searched to find out more about the connection between Franco A. and the chat groups. Previously, André S. was in contact with the MAD - as an informant. Before the searches , he was allegedly warned by his MAD contact .

Searches of Bundeswehr personnel
After taz searches, searches of this complex have taken place with more members of the Bundeswehr. For example, at a former KSK member who was a member of several of the chat groups in question. The man had previously André S. helped to found the club Uniter. After leaving the KSK he studied at the Bundeswehr University. He met soldiers Franco A. and Maximilian T., who was arrested shortly after. Franco A. was present at several meetings of the association Uniter and the southern German chat group - at least once also at André S.'s home.

At the end of last year, the FDP, the Left and the Greens called for a joint special meeting of the Interior Committee and the Defense Committee to clarify the connections of this network to state structures. Even a committee of inquiry was mentioned. However, the governing coalition rejected the proposal.

Tobias Pflüger, defense politician of the left-wing group, to which the small request goes back, criticizes the criteria for the classification of extremists as too lax. "Not even 'Victory Salvation' calling neo-Nazis meet these criteria. It is therefore not surprising that the Federal Government continues to deny the existence of a network of violent right-wing extremists in the Bundeswehr. "

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Austin Peterson
Austin Peterson

I'd take it over being a hyper capitalist city state of Oriental mutts.

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

a nearly homogenous society
USA
KEK

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

It was until the left the empire.

Landon Moore
Landon Moore

Yes, it appears so.

Carter Myers
Carter Myers

What's with you orientals being so white-worshipping? I swear you faggots are bigger white nationalists than whites themselves.

What ever the fuck happened to chink nationalism? Why you do you rootless cunts always feel the need to attach yourself to other racial groups?

Ryder Jackson
Ryder Jackson

Because of people like you.

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

The smart ones realize that white folk are pretty much the only ones who've ever done anything worthwhile and when we're gone you might as well look at what was Rhodesia for an example of that future.

Austin Flores
Austin Flores

Half white, half azn hapas are often like that.

Even Nigerians realize that so many blacks are just content with being worthless. Pics related are from Nairaland, a Nigerian imageboard/forum.

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Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

Because of getting their cultural and ethnic identity robbed, Halfus often go three ways:
think that papa did everything wrong and start hating white people while LARPing as yellow man and not get accepted by the fellow yellow peers no matter how hard they try
think that mama did everything wrong and start hating yellow people while LARPing as white man and not get accepted by the fellow white peers no matter how hard they try
realizing who influenced their parents to race mix and start hating the nose tribe

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

realizing who influenced their parents to race mix and start hating the nose tribe
This is the golden path.

Wyatt Edwards
Wyatt Edwards

You really think a group of purged KSK operators can't find weapons, Europe had a burgeoning illicit arms market and these guys have the contacts to fulfill their needs.
In full agreement here

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Matthew Sullivan
Matthew Sullivan

KSK operators forming parallel commando unit
This should be good

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Hudson Fisher
Hudson Fisher

Kek, Literally wtf is going on in German special forces:

archive.fo/1ZclG
taz.de/!5571253/
Hitler greetings from the KSK

Hannibal network

there are commanders such as Lieutenant Colonel Pascal D. On his farewell party was right-wing music, for amusement threw the guests with pig heads, Pascal D. showed several times the Hitler salute. While the MAD is still investigating what may have been problematic, the judiciary has already passed judgment. Pascal D. has to pay fines of 40 daily rates for "using badges of unconstitutional organizations". Against another soldier is still a preliminary investigation.

The occasion for questioning the intelligence services in the committee was taz research into the fact that several KSK soldiers had founded a conspiratorial network in which the suspected right-wing terrorist and Bundeswehr soldier Franco A. was also a member. Also included as part of the network were two suspects from northern Germany, who were alleged to have scheduled and liquidated persons from the so-called left-wing spectrum on an undefined "Day X" - the Nordkreuz Group.

Central figure of this network is André S., who also appears under the pseudonym Hannibal. He too was a KSK soldier and left the unit only last spring. He had administered so-called prepper chat groups, which were about the preparation for the day X. He also founded a club, Uniter eV , in which active and former special forces from the police, the Bundeswehr and the private security industry network - and also conduct military combat training. The government now announces: S. is still in the service of the Bundeswehr. He was now - as before his KSK time - used as a paratrooper, it said in the defense committee.

The Federal Government's letter states that investigations would be conducted against André S. for violating the German Weapons and Explosives Act. The allegations against him justified the initiation of disciplinary action.

André S. is one of at least three KSK soldiers who communicated with Franco A. in a chat group. These three were questioned by the BKA and their homes searched to find out more about the connection between Franco A. and the chat groups. Previously, André S. was in contact with the MAD - as an informant. Before the searches , he was allegedly warned by his MAD contact .

Nathaniel Howard
Nathaniel Howard

a total of 6k men in one brigade.
Integrated support battalions or brigades do count as "combat troops" in most evaluations.

It's not a G/POG evaluation it's when someone throw around: "X country has "suspiciously high number of soldier"". Out of those how many are people that would end up going out on a battlefield, even if it's just to fix vehicles in a field motor pool, and how many of them are just people getting a paycheck from the defense ministry that would never participate in battle.

Because to the assertion of "Germany has 200k soldiers" you can oppose that "Russia has 2 millions soldiers".

So the only way to have a clear view of capabilities is how the armies themselves says they have combat formation available, and deduce a "combat troop" number from that.

In a army it's gonna be the number of combat brigades, in an air force the number of squadrons, the number of ships in a navy, etc… rather than the number of people on the payrolls.

The fact is the German army has 8 brigades.
As I'm writing this I went to check the french ones and I realized the size of the disaster of the 2018 reforms (and why the French CiC literally ragequit with most of the top brass) since the french army is down to 6 brigades (from almost 11 until recently).

So, yeah…
In case you're wondering, it's hard to keep up given that they're switching back to full divisions but Russia is somewhere between 45 and 60 brigades.
Without Airborne and Naval infantry.

Just their airborne (12) would give a us a fucking run for our money…

William Stewart
William Stewart

Pascal D
This is the original report: youtube.com/watch?v=G_oSUzT5iw8
Yes, it's a a shitty Youtube video produced by a private company which receives it's funds from a state funded organization called "FUNK". This documentary presents no proof besides the claims of an anonymous witness. The entire story is bullshit, and the only reason he accepted the 4000€ fine was because he has enough money, and he can avoid any further investigation that way.

Franco A.
Was a massive fucking faggot, who managed to abuse the immigration system in ridiculous ways and could have uncovered his findings and completely ridiculed the government, showing how easy it could have been for some ISIS fag to arrive here with a backpack full of guns.
Yet he decided to go full retard.

André S.
Did nothing illegal. All he did was lead some prepping chats, used to be in le ebil KSK and lead a club meant for former and current special forces troops to coordinate. Because, guess what: if all you did for 20+ years was fighting wars and getting your mind fucked it's kinda hard finding a different job.
The allegations against him justified the initiation of disciplinary action.
Farting while standing at attention can justify the initiation of disciplinary action if you have the wrong disciplinary superior. I once got threatened with disciplinary action for taking on the codeine the troop doc prescribed me against my cough. Bless the army for still handing out codeine like candy.
stomping almost 7 brigades
Where did all those soldiers go? What happened with the equipment? What the fuck France? What did you do with the now empty barracks? Please tell me you integrated the skilled and experienced ones soldiers into the remaining brigades and shelved the left over equipment for replacement parts and training material.
Franco-German alliance against Russia when?

John Martin
John Martin

If the Nigerian Army invaded France right now via some 5x5m wormhole on the mediterranean coast who would win?

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Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

good lads

Luke Adams
Luke Adams

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Christian Jones
Christian Jones

I wonder if they had T[error]sphära play.
It sounds like a hell of a party tbh

Robert Wilson
Robert Wilson

watched the vid.
My german is rusty but i still understood 80% of it.
It's a complete shit piece. This stupid whore basically was told she will get gangbanged, flew over there possibly expecting to get gangbanged and paid for it. Did not get gangbanged and did not get shekels. Stupid whore wants news shekels now.
KSK should have just assasinated her and be done with it tbh

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

It sound like she got trolled for lolz.

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

Then you got the essence right.
Basically these guys claim that they have been investigating this witness report for months, and the only proof so far that they could provide were:
There was a party there that night.
She flew there via plane.
She was invited as a fucktrophy.
Anything beyond that is just quoting one witness report and ignoring multiple other witnesses (the soldiers).
They claim to be "sure" that this woman was telling the truth, because
a) she could correctly say what weather it was that day
b) she had the invitation messages on her phone
c) she actually flew there
d) there are rumors that KSK troops train at that facility and for some reason a local shootling club was allowed on Bundeswehr property, which I have not heard of ever happening anywhere.
The entire scene of them driving to the shooting range where the party took place is ridiculous. They film some soldiers through a fence and are trying to figure out if those guys are KSK. As if only KSK ever trains at that specific facility.
I don't think she should have been assassinated, that would be extreme. But I am dissapointed that the press jumped on this, and actually fucking quoted this retarded video report with no solid proof what so ever.

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

chec/k/ed

I love how they try to mix in that the commander has a chetnik tattoo and so is OMGXORZ horrible nazi.

KSK was deployed to Kosovo and presumably special-op'd some albanian šiptars so what do you expect?

That video is so laughable.

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Evan Smith
Evan Smith

I hope you enjoy receiving all the Nick Land types in a few years.

Alexander Flores
Alexander Flores

this

Luis Sullivan
Luis Sullivan

someone says you're shit
you reply with "but you're shit"
you do not even attempt to refute his statement that you are in fact shit

Bois, bois, calm down. You're *both* shit!

Charles Thompson
Charles Thompson

What the fuck is this?
Stay on topic or GTFO

Aaron Watson
Aaron Watson

GERMAN MILITARY COUP PLEASE

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Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

I would rather Italy or France or somewhere that doesn't have an autistic fixation with MUH GREATER BLOB so it doesn't ruin everything for the rest of us again.

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

What is the austistic fixation?

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

Italy or France
I mean this probably would be better for Pee-Are, since the kikes made Germany the eternal bad guy. The best option would be France since they have
a). a permanent seat in the UN, which means they could disrupt the UN
b). they're not designated as a "enemy state" in the UN clause, which gives major former Allied states to justify a war against any formerly Axis member states if they seem to disturb the status quo.

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Christopher Torres
Christopher Torres

Good thinking Nippon.

Jayden Turner
Jayden Turner

Also a nuclear power.

I guess the UK as well but I don't see anything happening here for the next few years depending on how Brexit goes

Revanchism

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

Can your country just hurry up and become a spacefaring white empire? It been for ages.

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

They'd rampage across the French countryside/cities UNTIL getting anywhere near high ranking officials, after which the French authorities would be let loose on them. Nigerian POW's would be released with citizenship after a week.

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Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

Country robbed of core states
<hurr autistic fixation!1!
If you faggots had any “autistic fixation” you wouldn’t have lost the empire and became a colony of your own colony.

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

largest political entity on Earth in 1943 was German
I know you nigger saxons hate us for being superior to you in art and science, but there is always a place for loud mouthed island monkeys.

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

That would be assuming the nigger saxons "made in Germany" propaganda was real and didnt backfire so hard it caused Brexit :^)

Josiah Green
Josiah Green

the eternal anglo strikes again

Kevin Brooks
Kevin Brooks

dw.com/en/german-military-200-soldiers-classified-as-far-right-extremists-since-2008/a-41071074

Tyler Price
Tyler Price

m.dw.com/en/german-military-200-soldiers-classified-as-far-right-extremists-since-2008/a-41071074

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Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5398245,00.html

rt.com/news/443662-german-army-secret-extermist-network/

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Jacob Turner
Jacob Turner

Report: Far-right German commandos planned to kill politicians, immigrants
Why do news sites leave out the "and" in their fucking titles. This irritates me.
That's old news.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Probably because it makes easier to understand the message for the mundane brainlet masses.

Austin Murphy
Austin Murphy

only 200
hope they don't find out about me :^)

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

topkek

for those not fluent in german turn on cc. Lyrics are translated

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Sounds like Kategorie C

Lincoln Rodriguez
Lincoln Rodriguez

wsws.org/en/articles/2018/11/17/germ-n17.html

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

What did they mean by this?

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Aiden Parker
Aiden Parker

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Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

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Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

..

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

archive.fo/ysrw4

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Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

rt.com/news/443662-german-army-secret-extermist-network/

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

Just autism. Normal for Germans. Weirdly doesn’t seem to affect the other Germanics though.

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

You are trolling me, of this I'm sure.
Also you are leaf.
At this point I would like to call for expert german opinion as to avoid being misguided further by a leaf.

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Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Germans are doing German things once more,
This is very pleasing.
I would imagine not so pleasing to Merkel but sure as hell looking good to me lads

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

M8, they’re holding their hands behind their back. It’s just autism that they’re doing it weird. Holding your hands behind your back isn’t a special message.

implying Merkel is German

Luis Rivera
Luis Rivera

stand around for hours
have to hold your right wrist in your left hand all the fucking time
eventually fingers feel stiff
move them a bit, because why not, nobody will notice
camera guy takes a picture in just that moment
It means that some guys were photographed at an unfortunate time.
That article doesn't go into very much depth.
The concept of "Staatsbürger in Uniform" (Citizen in uniform) is a lot more complex than that. Bascially it is meant to imply multiple things:
a) a soldier is just a normal citizen wearing uniform. Their rights (to physical safety or personal freedom) are only reduced when absolutely necessary (war, foreign tasks, or important training exercises to some degree).
b) Every citizen has the duty to protect the state against enemies from within (extremism etc.). A citizen in uniform does that too, and also protects the nation against enemies from without (cold war: commies; today: DAS RECHT UND DIE FREIHEIT DES DEUTSCHEN VOLKES WIRD AUCH AM HIDUKUSCH VERTEIDIGT!!1!).

The "mirror of society" thing is also not quite as simple.
We have a school system with 3 branches. Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasialschule. Hauptschule is the most basic kind of education, and if you have a Hauptschulabschluss you are allowed to do simple work that doesn't require any/much training.
Realschulabschluss allows you to start a training and eventually become a master in a trade.
Gymnasialschulabschluss grants you either an allgemeine or spezifische Hochschulreife (common or specific higher education readiness), which allows you to go to university, either for any degree, or only degrees in a specific field.
The same is true for the army. You need a Hauptschulabschluss for joining, a Realschulabschluss for becoming an NCO and Hochschulreife for becoming an officer. You also receive appropriate education depending on your rank. NCOs learn a trade, while officers go to university.
The army is organized in such a way that it mirrors civilian society, this is done for multiple purposes:
a) soldiers will not feel like they are living in some parallel reality and will have an easier time understanding with the civilian world
b) once a soldier leaves the army, he will have the appropriate education and life skills necessary to at least do something

It also means that, as the article mentions, the army truly represents the people, and would not turn against those it is meant to protect.
However: back when service was still mandatory there were many many ways to legally get out of it. You could just send in a written form and spend the same time working in a hospital, an old people home, or maybe a Kindergarten IIRC. The army was never truly a total mirror of society, as pacifists never served, and yet made up a big part of the population. Back then a lot of young people considered working in a hospital to be boring, or gross, or they wanted to get paid for doing outdoor stuff or they sent in their service denial documents too late and got drafted anyways, so they picked the army.
Now that service isn't mandatory, only people who truly want to join do so, and thus only people with an interest in the military end up there.

Percentage of children with autism:
Japan: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18412836
1,81%

Canada: autismontario.com/client/aso/ao.nsf/web/Info about ASD?OpenDocument
1%

Germany: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1362361316673977
1,52%

USA: (page 4) cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr087.pdf
2,24%

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

It's always the god damned poles in this matter, they shit up every discussion about ww2, yes the haavara transfer agreement was real, yes the germans were extremely NICE to the jews from the start and they wanted to remove them from europe through the most velvety gloves possible. They did not however want an independent jewish state. In this case they were to go to Palestine and to live under the local muslims without any actual power of their own.
Source: Solid.

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

Excellent post my good man!
You deserve an award for this.
Haven't read something as informatove in months

Jaxson Thomas
Jaxson Thomas

*informative

Landon Bennett
Landon Bennett

Now that service isn't mandatory, only people who truly want to join do so, and thus only people with an interest in the military end up there.
Good lads

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Caleb Martin
Caleb Martin

DAS RECHT UND DIE FREIHEIT DES DEUTSCHEN VOLKES WIRD AUCH AM HIDUKUSCH VERTEIDIGT
What is Hidukusch?

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Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

You disappoint me, Magyar-user.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Kush
It's not like that is exclusively a good thing.
You end up with a mix of people who join because:
a) they need the money
b) they can't do anything else
c) they are genuinely interested
60% a), 35% b) and 5% c) from my experience.

Most officers for example are (cat. a)) young people with Hochschulreife who can't afford to go to university on their own. So they join, get their degree, sit out the shortest possible amount of time, and leave quickly. That doesn't make them bad soldiers, or officers. Some of them are very good, some are very bad. Some notice how much they like the army and stay, others hate and, and know they hate it, and still do a good fucking job, because it's their job.

Then there are those who are simply stupid. They tried to do normal work, but failed because they may be a tiny bit too intelligent to be classed as mentally retarded, or because they are lazy, or because they simply can't do anything well besides walking, running and occasional shooting.
They flunked out of civilian work, and the only reason why they didn't get the army-boot up the ass too is that the army desperately needs people.

Only very very few people actually join because they like the army for being an army. The others join because of everything else. I should rephrase:
Now that service isn't mandatory, only people who truly want to join do so, and thus only people with an interest in the military end up there.
to
Now that service isn't mandatory, only people who truly want to join do so, and thus only people who reallly want to join the army for whatever reason end up there.

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

With all the articles about the German military that have come out these past few years, what does the average German think about the Military? Their has to be some very strong beliefs hiding in Germans about the subject, since it seems like the Military is nonfunctional. With Trump hinting at not defending Europe, Russian world aggression increasing, the Military being under maned/funded, and question politics of the ksk their has to be some feelings about it all.

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

Europeans who were under the NATO banner during the USSR times today are almost all across the board very pacifistic today, Germans included. East Germans to my knowledge are a bit more militaristic.

Noah Young
Noah Young

Inventing the nuclear bomb was a mistake. Without it, we could still have ye olde nation vs nation wars here in Europe too. Now that nukes exist, we only have strikethroughwars fun in third world shitholes like Afghanistan and Ukraine…

Kayden Turner
Kayden Turner

Inventing the nuclear bomb was a mistake. Without it, we could still have ye olde nation vs nation wars here in Europe too. Now that nukes exist, we only have wars fun in third world shitholes like Afghanistan and Ukraine…

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

all they would have to do is release a gene-specific bioweapon like the US army already did in Afghanistan, but instead of lowering religiousity, make it target a gene expression that Jews have. Put it out with influenza with a few months incubation and no more Jews. Pretty scary stuff they have nowadays. Same could be done to White people or Black people. DNA and Nukes should all just go away.

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William Murphy
William Murphy

Correct. E.U. army of shitskins will quell any and all attempts at White people sticking up for themselves and their countries. Not too much unlike Hitler, but on smaller scales. Any form of White identity and culture must be erased for the Jew to truly rule.

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Jose Mitchell
Jose Mitchell

Everyone thinks our army is a joke that is entirely useless and lead by corrupt idiots.
From that point onwards, which all sides can agree on, you got some more differing opinions.
The far left thinks that, despite our army being pathetic, they are an imperialistic tool of oppression and they want to completely disarm the nation.
Quoting the "Linksjugend" (lit. Left Youth, youth organization of the left party) Youth organizations are always on the far far extreme side of their party over here.
linksjugend-solid.de/positionen/programm/#post-1130-4-5-konsequent-gegen-krieg-eine-friedliche-welt-ist-moeglich
"Die Bundeswehr ist immer mehr eine global operierende Interventionsarmee. Wer wissen will warum, kann das im Weißbuch der Bundeswehr nachlesen. Dort steht, dass ein“ungehinderter Warenaustausch“ und die “Rohstoffzufuhr“ für den deutschen Markt auch militärisch gesichert werden sollen."
Lit:
<The Bundeswehr is increasingly a globally operating invasion army. Whoever wants to know why can read about it in the Whitebook of the Bundeswehr. It reads that a "unhindered exchange of wares" and the "material input" for the German market should also be secured via military means.

They demand that, quote:
Ein Abzug aller deutschen Truppen, die außerhalb Deutschlands stationiert sind, die Schließung der Militärbasen auf deutschem Boden, die Verweigerung von Überflugrechten für das Militär anderer Staaten sowie die Ablehnung von Militäreinsätzen der Bundeswehr und der NATO sind erste notwendige Schritte hin zu einer friedlichen Welt. >Daraufhin muss die Abschaffung der Bundeswehr und deren Überführung in zivile Einrichtungen folgen. Gleiches gilt für die enteigneten Rüstungskonzerne. Darüber hinaus fordern wir die militärische Abrüstung Europas und setzen uns für den Austritt der Bundesrepublik aus der NATO und anderen Militärbündnissen sowie für deren Auflösung ein.

<A removal of all German troops, that are stationed outside of Germany, the closing of all German military bases on German ground, the denial of all flights for the military of other states as well as denyng to take part in military tasks of the Bundeswehr and NATO are the first necessary steps towards a peaceful world.
<Following that must be the removal of the Bundeswehr and the transformation into civilian institutions. The same goes for the nationalization of military industry. On top of that we demand the military disarmament of Europe and make our point that Germany should leave NATO and all other military alliances, as well as the dissolving of those alliances.

So they hold very negative views towards the military. What about the other side of the spectrum?
The Junge Alternative (Lit. Young Alternative) is the youth organization of the AfD (far right party, Lit. Alternative (party) for Germany). They have had a lot of controversy around them because some members did some statements that revealed their powerlevel were against the constitution of Germany.
jungealternative.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Deutschlandplan-der-Jungen-Alternative-Freiheitliche-Positionen-für-unsere-Heimat.pdf

Als Junge Alternative bekennen wir uns ausdrücklich zu unseren Streitkräften und zu ihrem Dienst für unser Vaterland. Die Streitkräfte sind dabei weder Hilfspolizei,noch Technisches Hilfswerk. Sie haben die alleinige Aufgabe,das bundesdeutsche Staatsgebiet gegen Angriffe von außen zu verteidigen sowie deutsche Interessen im Ausland zu vertreten. Oberstes Ziel derdeutschen Verteidigungspolitik muss sein, die Streitkräfte wieder in die Lage zu versetzen, diesen Aufgaben nachzukommen. Wir sprechen uns daher für eine spürbare Erhöhung des Verteidigungsbudgets und für die Wiedereinführung der Wehrpflicht aus.

cont.

Carter Scott
Carter Scott

Lit:
<As the Young Alternative we stand by our troops and their service for the fatherland. The troops are neither assistant police, nor technical assistance workers.
(referencing the fact that German troops are often used for disaster relief actions and the discussion about allowing the army to secure areas during terror attacks)
<They have the sole tasks of defending the German national area against attacks from without, as well as representing German interests in foreign countries.
Note the use of "representing" or "vertreten" when referencing foreign countires, instead of "defending". I am not sure what they mean with that either.
<The highest goal of German defence policy must be to make the troops capable of performing those tasks. We thus speak up for a noticible increase of the defence budget and for the reinstitution of mandatory military service.

They don't mention NATO at all, and instead of demanding a reduction in military they demand an increase in spending.
Notice how neither of them mentions corruption in high positions (yet). There is currently an investigation about the ministry of defence hiring consultants for far too much money. So there might be some changes in the demands of both sides.

Those are the two very extreme sides. However, most parties between those accept some points of them. The CDU/CDU (formerly right, now center) for example demands a slight increase in defence budget and would like to continue foreign missions. The SPD (formerly social democrat workers party, now center to center left, plummeting) is against an increase in spending but would like to continue foreign missions too.
The left party (close ties to former communist party of east Germany (SED, dissolved) and west Germany (KPD, outlawed)) is very splintered on that issue. Some agree with the youth organization, while others are for continuing foreign missions to reduce "humanitarian suffering".
If I had to guess at least 30% of people here would like to see a decrease in military, while at least 20% would like to see an increase. The 50% between I am not sure about. It's a very complicated issue, and I don't think that a post on an image-board can do it justice.

Daniel Torres
Daniel Torres

but a half of my brain say it’s impossible so go in the space and colonise the planet
That's because way more than half of the humanity is two-digits IQ subhumans and due to (((humanitarianism))) people with actual spirit and capacity for exploration and the conquest of frontiers are bound to redistribute their resources in a malthusian deathtrap.

Anthony Perez
Anthony Perez

Liebe deutsches Volk, lassen Sie die bösen Bastarde niemals deine inneren Kriegergeister abtragen.
Dear German people, never let the evil bastards worn your inner warrior spirits down.

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

Rank doesn't seem to mean much in special forces environments across the globe. I wouldn't be suprised if they hand them out like cookies so they can get thier guys paid more. Soldiers pay here isn't bad, but nothing to write home about either until you hit high officer ranks. With that rank, the dude would probably make about 70k a year, which seems reasonable to pay for someone in that line of work, unlike the american version of paying 30k or something similarly ridiculous.
That was more of a prepper type deal. They were preparing for a certain political event ( riots & civil war), in which case they would act. They were not, as portrayed, planning to kill them with the intent to execute as soon as the planning stage had finished. Hence, their material gathering, as they were sure that they would need it in the following political and physical altercations in what amounts to a civil war.

I doubt they're going to hand Serbs a whole lot of firearms. Although that would definitely end any question of whether or not we need a secure border, as we will have one. You shouldn't put a spade in the ground anywhere near the borders for a few decades.

I was under the impression that becoming a Meister just to sign up is a viable financial move, as the pay is quite decent compared to what you get in the East. Otherwise, thank you for de/pol/ing this thread.

S2 tells me to say hi.
Anyway, I believe that the US estimates about 25% of their troops to be combat personnel, while 75% are REMFs. While it isn't unlikely that the US armed forces are a logistical nightmare with far to many REMFs, i doubt that the Bundeswehr can make an improvement of that high of a percentage overall just by being better at planning.
The old jpg saying "The US Army is highly capable in the field because it practices chaos on a daily basis" comes to mind. I don't think that the Bw can be THAT good of a logistical outfit, where they mange to turn the logistics key upside down.

Most of them are in financial trouble. They're trying to get out of their debts by just declaring that the gov't cannot enforce their debts because it isn't legitimate anyway. Others are just plain retarded. The fact of the matter is, Might makes right, always has, and the Reich has been abolished by everyone for decades until they came along.
Bonus tidbit: one of them got arrested after trying to shoot someone they owed money to with an airsoft pistol in a fight in public.
They are bonafide retards.

I don't think they need them. For an assassination plot from guys that capable, they only need a few AR15s and a couple of 30rd mags, I doubt any random protection outfit is going to stop people that capable. AR15s are still legal as firearms here. Hell, they could probably do most of them with IEDs and pistols, Middle East experience should have given them enough knowledge about how to make IEDs from scrap. These guys do not need "contacts".

This should be expanded upon. The current SecDef's son ( one of seven children) was part of a consultancy company that was hired. It looks like corruption and nepotism all rolled in to one.

Also, what's with the /pol/ stuff in here? Half the posts are 'le ebil jews' instead of staying on topic.

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

but nothing to write home about either until you hit high officer ranks. With that rank, the dude would probably make about 70k a year, which seems reasonable to pay for someone in that line of work, unlike the american version of paying 30k or something similarly ridiculous.
Extra pay from deployments is always nice, almost 200Eurodollar per day if you are doing actual shit work. You can buy a house in some quiet village after a couple years of doing those.
Also:
They give former special forces guys promotions like it's candy during Cologne Carnival.
Source: Company commander went from OF-1 to OF-5 in two years after leaving KSK. It's their way of retiring guys without retiring them.
as the pay is quite decent compared to what you get in the East
in the East
Yeah, maybe, but there is a reason why anyone who could has moved away from the east. Sorry, Ossibro, politicians fucked you.
S2 tells me to say hi.
Tell them I said hi back. I miss those fags. Not really. Stab is full of weirdos.
they only need a few AR15s and a couple of 30rd mags,
One of my former superiors used to own one. Said he bought it from an American in Grafenwöhr. I have no clue how valid that statement was though, sine I don't think Americans are allowed to bring their guns over to Germany. He may have been bullshitting me and could have just bought it with a sports shooting license. He was the kind of guy who would do that sort of thing.
The current SecDef's son ( one of seven children) was part of a consultancy company that was hired. It looks like corruption and nepotism all rolled in to one.
Just in time for the criminal family clan discussion :^)

Sebastian Evans
Sebastian Evans

Have they join in private military after they leave the public military?

Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

Private military work is illegal, because of a concept known as "Gewaaltmonopol", lit: Monopoly of violence/power
It means that the only entitiy that is legally allowed to use violence (outside of a self-defence scenario) is the state and it's representative forces (police, "justice enforcement civil servant" (the guys who work at prisons), and the military)

So if you want to do PMC work, you must either join a "security" company, because those fall under self defence, or go on vacation in Somalia and come back with more cash than you had before :^)

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