Sexuality

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Mouth has got waaay more bacteria.

Are we citing the Bible now as evidence?

Why is it found in nature so much? Why did God make this perfectly normal man, and then given him desires for other men, and tell him his skin will burn and his flesh will melt as locusts crawl under his eyelids as he drowns in feces if he gives the succ?

Gays aside, why cant I tease someone who's into kinky shit?

There are some glaring flaws in this ideology, is all I'm saying.

Animals don't know God. Also the seed of evil is planted by man. The "born gay" thing is a meme pushed by apologists. The last thing (((they))) want a man suffering from sexual perversion is for him to know he could end it with his own free will. Instead, ideas are pushed that you're damned no matter what if you think about benis, so God couldn't be real and if he is he's a meanie.

But the normal peoples' mouths don't have poop in it…I dont know if I can say the same about yours…

Also

Because animals are animals, but we are human, we are better than the animals. God treats us like his children. He only wants whats best for us, but it is still up to us to listen to Him. If you want to be a degenerate sodomite, go ahead! No one will stop you, but when you contract an STD for your sexual immortality…dont say we didn't warn you I hear the cathar on /christ/ would take someone like you in, cathars are big sodomites that supposedly love God

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He did not. Some of us seek out "strange flesh" on their own because their lust have grown out of control so much or went astray towards the unnatural. They can either submit to their fallen nature, or rise above it and imitate our creator who wants us to be what we are meant to be.

not OP, and not even a proper christian just a lurker who finds it interesting on some level
I usually dont post because of that but would like to interject here
even as a child it felt kinda good to play with my butt, this was before I ever watched porn or masturbated
I have never lain with another man, I dont even really find them attractive either, but in the way I described I was definitely that way my whole life and not somehow "corrupted"
I have been considering lifelong celibacy out of the very concrete fear of STD and even yes, the nebulous fear of "what if all you guys are right"

Hear that thought out more. That is your calling.

I have been considering it, I do lurk here for a reason
but do you have an answer to my experience seemingly contradicting you in ?
I have had these desires, although not desires for other men exactly but defiantly not normal heterosexual desires my whole life, even before I lusted let alone it going out of control

Intercourse without the chance of reproduction only serves to try your dopamine receptors, you'll soon learn that STDs are actually the least grief God could give you on earth of you decide to follow the path of the wanderer.

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Ironically, OP's image aligns with the Bible (Psalm 8:4). However, it's a pity many will end up in the Lake of Fire because of some meme image instead of reading their Bible.

What is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man that You attend to him? (Psalm 8:4)

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Im not an expert on the subject, if they're just intrusive thoughts then it's not an actual part of your character. I don't know what you mean exactly by "play with your butt." Kids will explore whatever they can imagine. The point is as an adult human being you have an understanding of nature and morality. I can speak about development of homosexual and sexual perversion from past experience, but I know little about psychology and endocrinology, so I would be as the blind leading the blind.
What I can tell you is the wrongness of the issue is clear as day. When people argue that anal sex is against nature, it's not because people are ignorant of the natural world, but because you can look at the physical distress it leaves on your body (and not to mention your mind and soul) and it's degradation after years of practice. Your body is a temple for the Holy Spirit and to diminish it for the sake of pleasure and arousal is complete negligence. God loves YOU and would never want you to perform voluntary acts that destroy the body he gave you in his likeness. Homosexuality leads to death in multiple definitions of the word. The natural use of sex is to produce life and celebrate the union of man and woman.

My point is we have destructive addictions, temperaments, and traits that develop from our environment or are predisposed by genetics. Submitting to them is to put our own pleasure or self interest above the good of us all. At this point I would quote some of the many verses talking about the duty of Christians to put their faith above their earthly desires, but I'm phone posting at 1am. I hope this answered your question and I also hope other anons will impart similar help if they can

I get attracted to adolescent girls, you should at least be happy that the godless society supports your sinful thoughts, mine however are abundantly taboo.
I thank God for giving me the strength to not be a creep or do anything which could get me in trouble.

I was a sodomite and I still, alas!, have thoughts of that type…God never gave me any tangible/visible/outward signs of His pain for my damnation; the subtle pangs of sorrow in my heart, like the slit of a cracked window glass from which a blade of air comes through to bring a small yet pungent discomfort were more than enough to make me re-evaluate my life.
I am far from cured, but I am on my way to recover.
We cannot do as we please because we are like children in front of a plate of freshly baked brownies: we'd indulge ourselves until we feel sick and disgusted. We already often do that.
Change your ways, brother, and do not "experiment" with yourself: all that is left is hollowness and a sense of self-hatred which feeds on itself.

Good luck brother. Check out Pure Passion channel on youtube for some inspiration. I'll be praying for you.

Animals, whether they have souls or not or are able to know being gay is wrong or whatever, has nothing to do with it. I'm saying there is a genetic basis in all of nature which humans came from. The very matter some men are made of is gay. How the winnie the pooh is that fair? Also, very Descarte of you to think that animals are a bunch of dumb winnie the poohs.

There's a gene that decides how attracted to men you are. It has a surprisingly effective purpose: gay men have lots of nephews and nieces from their sisters, knowwhatI'msayin? And what of the other genetic factors? Gay men have shorter ring fingers and longer dicks. You don't just turn gay one day because you jerked off too much.

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The gene meme is not settled science, people just don't risk questioning it anymore. One day that'll change again. But even if there were 100% hard evidence that someone is born with a strong predisposition to male attraction, it wouldn't mean it's acceptable to do so. A man can be predisposed to take alcohol extremely poorly and have an addiction. He doesn't get to say "why lord it's not fair whiskey tastes so good."

As evidence of what? How to live? - yes.

Where were you when God made the heavens and the Earth? Why is murder wrong? Why is cannabalism wrong?

Instead of questioning the ways of God, seek to understand them.

I don't see any, I think that's a personal problem for you.

Divine Command Theory.

I've turned the cheek on all your personal comments so far but I want you to know that the reason nobody likes Christians is you're all so damn condescending.

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Also, animals are dumb. Some animals are smarter than others (see Corvus Brachyrhynchos) but humans will ALWAYS be smarter and better than the animals.

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Remember pedophiles are also said to be born that way. I'm not saying that the two are morally equal but only pointing out that the fact that some people have desires which they don't choose to have doesn't mean that acting on those desires is good. Also, as for things found in nature (if you mean in the animal kingdom), rape and cannibalism are commonplace among animals. Yet hopefully you would acknowledge those things are wrong for humans to do.

genesis 1:25
>was good past tense

gay gene doesn't exist fam
gays are created by exposure to excess hormones in the womb, which is everywhere nowadays with estrogen and the water and whatnot, even then this is a tiny amount of fags because of twin studies where one twin is a homo and one is straight
they are also created by pornography addiction, and by child abuse/trauma/neglect (i have experienced both of these first hand)

Are you not a Christian?
So is the eating of ones own children. I doubt you'd support that.
Why did God make aspies, sociopaths, or other humans with these biological defects? Some of us have greater crosses we must carry in order to serve the lord and allow him in our lives to improve ourselves.
Because it would lead to both of you possibly committing sinful acts.
The only glaring flaw is in your inability to control your lust.

Leave.

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If you're a Protestant (I count all non Catholic/Orthodox as Protestant) , then your church is built of the primacy of scripture. Even liberal Christians who believe in the primacy of scripture do it based off of attempting to warp what it says with context.
If you aren't a Protestant, then chances are your church doesn't believe in homosexual marriage either

Right, good cathodoxes like Origen would never begome eunuchs.

Why did your dad make a relatively normal child only to make you learn to walk, talk, read, write, do math, and other hard stuff? God gives us challenges so that we can overcome them and become stronger. It's through fighting your way through pain and suffering that you become what you were truly meant to be. Sure, you COULD just follow your basest of instincts and put your dick in whatever you want, but that's a path that leads to weakness and self defeatism.

Because that's what will happen. If I tell you "Don't jump into oncoming traffic because you'll get hit and die." It's not because I have created an arbitrary rule that I will punish you for breaking. It's because I'm trying to inform you of the inevitable outcomes that will occur if you keep doing stupid stuff.

>I read some (((articles))) that it's normal for animals to have gay seggs and I saw a dog hump another male dog once therefore it's perfectly normal

This is an appeal to nature, which is always a shitty thing to do since you guys are still against cannibalism, necrophilia, beastiality and whatnot even though this is wayyy more frequent than homosexual behaviour.

And the reason nobody likes gays is they're so unbelievably obnoxious. Case in point, you (if you're not just shitposting).

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Guess what else is found in nature a lot? Rape, murder, and disease. Just because something happens in nature doesn't mean it's good. We are meant to transcend our natural inclination and push ourselves to become like God.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Consider moving from Japan. Earthquakes there are frequent.

I'm sure you'd be a lot more scared of the billions of Lactobacillus acne on your face than just a million methicyllin resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

>(((shitstains))) are literally faggots

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You have to realize that ultimately you're just mulling over supreme idiocy and what's really just disgusting behavior. Even if you like it, it's probably just because you're retarded.

Why does God make people gay?

…he doesn't?

That's really hard to believe, considering that the evidence basically shows that homosexuality is genetic.

Genetic predisposition, due to error from the material world, does not eliminate agency. Even if there are passive factors that influence the choice to be homosexual, it is still a preference. One has, as thinking life, the choice to resist disharmonious impulses.

How long do you think you could resist the urge to eat?

All sin can be resisted through the unmerited grace of God. Eating is not sin, thought it can be sinful if disordered, just as homosexuality is a disorder of procreation.

Just what sort of genetic disposition is it though? Is it just sexual urges or romantic attraction to the same sex?
Whatever evidence you're referring to isn't conclusive by the way, because "homosexuality"
is obviously not genetic.

yes and I am genetically predisposed to alcohol addiction
that doesn't mean you should encourage me to be an alcoholic